The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

[Frederick]

So now the complaint is that Warner Bros are being too faithful to the source material. Weird.


Huh? I love X-Men. Why do you have to tell lies, guy?

Will you still love them after Disney buys the rights back from Fox?

 

[shiznit]

So now the complaint is that Warner Bros are being too faithful to the source material. Weird.


Huh? I love X-Men. Why do you have to tell lies, guy?

Ohhh shut the f**k up... we all know you try and play the contrarian and hate on the Marvel studios films... because they are lauded by the masses...

And then you try and hide it by telling us how you rate the Fox films...

We all see right through you motherf**ker...

 

[Game_Breaker]

Personally i tbink they watered it down from the source material. They had a perfect opportunity to have some real stakes in the conflict but went the safe route

They didnt have to kill Cap or Stark but Rhodey or Hawkeye would have been good choices and really brought home the story points. Just crippling Rhodey then having him walking by the end of the film was terrible. Seems hes all good come Infinity war too, not much different to what WB did with Superman really

Yeah, no one really cares about war machine
Why have him survive? It's not like he'll have the chance for a lot of screen time in Infinity War

 

[Game_Breaker]

They could do worse... they could kill him and then dig his body up and bring him back to life in the next film...

Doomsday is known for killing Superman, that's his thing

They probably should've waited a while before using him though

 

[bileduct]

Ohhh shut the f**k up... we all know you try and play the contrarian and hate on the Marvel studios films... because they are lauded by the masses...

And then you try and hide it by telling us how you rate the Fox films...

We all see right through you motherf**ker...

You seem upset.

 

[bileduct]

Yeah, no one really cares about war machine

Oh is that his name?

I thought he was Black Iron Guy.

 

[Parra Pride]

Doomsday is known for killing Superman, that's his thing

They probably should've waited a while before using him though

Probably should've waited a while before doing any kind of crossover and actually built their universe up first, but that clearly ain't happening.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

DC got nuthin' except Wonder Woman.

They recast Batman more than I've had hot breakfasts.

They're what, 5 movies in and basically flailing?

Surely for the money they are investing they could have mapped out 5-6 solo movies over 5-10 years leading in to JL.

They could have reimagined and reinvigorated every character and set them up more realistically.

But no.

Cash grab. Woeful plotting. Shit cgi and messy productions mired in inadequacies.

Which is a pity because people will go along for the ride if they do it well.

 

[shiznit]

I would have given ANYTHING if they could have built it off Nolan’s trilogy.

I know Nolan was over doing anymore comic book films.... so i don’t know how they would have done it... but that trilogy is still my favourite of all time...

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I would have given ANYTHING if they could have built it off Nolan’s trilogy.

I know Nolan was over doing anymore comic book films.... so i don’t know how they would have done it... but that trilogy is still my favourite of all time...

He did have involvement in MOS. How much i dunno. Anyway...boat missed. Reboots in five...

 

[bileduct]

DC got nuthin' except Wonder Woman.

They recast Batman more than I've had hot breakfasts.

They're what, 5 movies in and basically flailing?

Surely for the money they are investing they could have mapped out 5-6 solo movies over 5-10 years leading in to JL.

They could have reimagined and reinvigorated every character and set them up more realistically.

But no.

Cash grab. Woeful plotting. Shit cgi and messy productions mired in inadequacies.

Which is a pity because people will go along for the ride if they do it well.

LOL.

So let me get this straight. After six Superman films and seven Batman films, what we really needed was another 5-10 years of solo movies.

 

[bileduct]

Doomsday is known for killing Superman, that's his thing

They probably should've waited a while before using him though

Why? Conceptually, they used him in the same way they did in the comics - to relaunch a franchise. And just like Superman, Doomsday also comes back more powerful than before so there's no reason he can't be used again.

 

[Parra Pride]

LOL.

So let me get this straight. After six Superman films and seven Batman films, what we really needed was another 5-10 years of solo movies.

Two of those Superman movies were in the DCEU so we are fine on that front. None of the previous Batman films are in any way connected to what they are running with now, a movie would have been preferential but we all know his origins well enough so BvS is good enough to slide for him. What would have been nice was Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman all getting movies first. If DC just focused on building their universe instead of trying to catch up to Marvel they would be in a better place. Unfortunately we aren't going to get that.

 

[bileduct]

Two of those Superman movies were in the DCEU so we are fine on that front. None of the previous Batman films are in any way connected to what they are running with now, a movie would have been preferential but we all know his origins well enough so BvS is good enough to slide for him. What would have been nice was Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman all getting movies first. If DC just focused on building their universe instead of trying to catch up to Marvel they would be in a better place. Unfortunately we aren't going to get that.

And then I'm sure the criticism would be that Warner Bros. are just copying Marvel's formula.

You said it yourself, Batman and Superman are pretty well fleshed out that they didn't need another series of introductory films before any crossing these characters over. Flash already had a TV series, so again, no need for an origin story. They've used bigger characters in the MCU to introduce lesser ones that are going on to feature in their own films (Black Panther), so I'm not sure why throwing out solo films for Aquaman and Wonder Woman after they've already been introduced would be disconcerting to anyone.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Why? Conceptually, they used him in the same way they did in the comics - to relaunch a franchise. And just like Superman, Doomsday also comes back more powerful than before so there's no reason he can't be used again.

I just think it’s best to kill off Henry Cavills Superman a few more movies into the DCEU - just for it to mean more

 

[Game_Breaker]

Two of those Superman movies were in the DCEU so we are fine on that front. None of the previous Batman films are in any way connected to what they are running with now, a movie would have been preferential but we all know his origins well enough so BvS is good enough to slide for him. What would have been nice was Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman all getting movies first. If DC just focused on building their universe instead of trying to catch up to Marvel they would be in a better place. Unfortunately we aren't going to get that.

Aquaman and Flash are getting their solo movies, of course this is after they were already on introduced

Just like Black Panther and Spider-Man

 

[Parra Pride]

And then I'm sure the criticism would be that Warner Bros. are just copying Marvel's formula.

You said it yourself, Batman and Superman are pretty well fleshed out that they didn't need another series of introductory films before any crossing these characters over. Flash already had a TV series, so again, no need for an origin story. They've used bigger characters in the MCU to introduce lesser ones that are going on to feature in their own films (Black Panther), so I'm not sure why throwing out solo films for Aquaman and Wonder Woman after they've already been introduced would be disconcerting to anyone.

It's a formula that works. Build up the crossover and actually make people care. I enjoyed Justice League for what it was, however I do think it would've been better if the major players got their own movies before hand and the team up actually had some build up behind it. You had two Iron Man movies, as well as a movie for Hulk, Thor and Cap to build up Avengers and people cared about it happening. There was no build up to Justice League, it just kind of happened and now everyone has already moved on because Marvel blew it out of the water with the Infinity War trailer.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Ideally theyd have done:

Man of Steel
A better Dawn of Justice
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Batman
Flash
Cyborg
JL1
2nd Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern.

Then Green Arrow, Hawkman...

Lesser characters like Blue Beetle Jamie Reyes (like Spiderman), Shazam, Firestorm.

Phases.

But no...

And Warner/DC are in it to make $$$$. Why not copy Marvel for a piece of that dollar action?

 

[The Mad Hatter]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/marvel-dcs-supervillains-joke-heath-ledgers-fault/

 

[bileduct]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/marvel-dcs-supervillains-joke-heath-ledgers-fault/

Great article pointing out where Warner Bros. went wrong - copying the MCU's bland super villain formula.

Gene Hackman, Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson. Nobody will ever match any of these guys.

CGI Thanos looks blander than bland with added blandness. Ten years for that shit?