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The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

Game_Breaker

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It wasn't that scene. It was just a reference to it. For some reason everyone was in an elevator in the same positions.

Yeah, that’s what I mean

The Russo’s wanted to use that scene but couldn’t travel back to Winter Soldier so they just re-enacted the scene during the first Avengers movie

I don’t mind it, hail hydra was a nice little easter egg referencing this moment

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shiznit

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I don’t know how long this has been the case but i just found out about it and it’s pretty f**king awesome... :joy::joy:

Google Thanos and when it gives you the results you’ll see an infinity gauntlet next to his name....

Press on the gauntlet and see what happens...
 

Frederick

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I think you guys raise really valid points... I just ignored common sense and accepted the premise of the story to enjoy the film.

Me and my Mrs call it ‘Fast & The Furiousing’ it.

I fast & the furioused the shit out of this film... :joy::joy:
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sensesmaybenumbed

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I don’t know how long this has been the case but i just found out about it and it’s pretty f**king awesome... :joy::joy:

Google Thanos and when it gives you the results you’ll see an infinity gauntlet next to his name....

Press on the gauntlet and see what happens...
That's quality
 

nick87

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This was the thing that probably pissed me off the most tbh. They've had 11 years and God only knows what kind of massive budget to work on this set of films and yet the story was full of flaws.

Yes, I understand that we're talking about a fantasy movie with talking Aliens and magic and all sorts of fantasy elements and so it seems odd to complain about the story being full of inaccuracies and plot holes but the makers of this movie had every possible opportunity to get all this right and they fluffed it.

I mean, every movie has tiny errors in it... Someone is wearing a wrist watch in one scene and not in the next or you can see the reflection of a camera guy in a mirror and you can forgive that sort of stuff. Sometimes, it even becomes part of pop culture like the scene in one of the original Star Wars movies where a stormtrooper bangs his head on an archway.

However, half way through this movie it sets out its own rules on going back in time and messing with the continuum and then it went and broke all of them an hour or so later and we are supposed to just overlook that? Besides this, we went through this long and convoluted process where everyone only had so many Pym particles and could only go back in time once each when really, only one of them needed to go back once, grab the time stone and hey presto you have control over all of time... It just seemed rushed and thrown together without too much thought...

Yes, and then the posts after this.
Yes again!!

I was almost coming around and now im solid, the film was kind of fun but it actually sucked. Endgame Sucked. :(
 

nick87

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I don’t know how long this has been the case but i just found out about it and it’s pretty f**king awesome... :joy::joy:

Google Thanos and when it gives you the results you’ll see an infinity gauntlet next to his name....

Press on the gauntlet and see what happens...
Holy shit thats cool
 

Game_Breaker

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When they captured nebula and discovered her wrist band thingy and the Pym particles it probably stands to reason that they would have reverse engineered/duplicated the technology somehow to allow them to travel through the portal. Regarding their forces, his ship is f**king enormous so we're they all on his ship when he came through the portal?

Whatever deus ex machina Thanos comes up with, it needs to happen on screen, you can’t rely on the audience to imagine a very important plot point
 

Last Week

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This was the thing that probably pissed me off the most tbh. They've had 11 years and God only knows what kind of massive budget to work on this set of films and yet the story was full of flaws.

Yes, I understand that we're talking about a fantasy movie with talking Aliens and magic and all sorts of fantasy elements and so it seems odd to complain about the story being full of inaccuracies and plot holes but the makers of this movie had every possible opportunity to get all this right and they fluffed it.

I mean, every movie has tiny errors in it... Someone is wearing a wrist watch in one scene and not in the next or you can see the reflection of a camera guy in a mirror and you can forgive that sort of stuff. Sometimes, it even becomes part of pop culture like the scene in one of the original Star Wars movies where a stormtrooper bangs his head on an archway.

However, half way through this movie it sets out its own rules on going back in time and messing with the continuum and then it went and broke all of them an hour or so later and we are supposed to just overlook that? Besides this, we went through this long and convoluted process where everyone only had so many Pym particles and could only go back in time once each when really, only one of them needed to go back once, grab the time stone and hey presto you have control over all of time... It just seemed rushed and thrown together without too much thought...

Ignoring the fact that Stark didn't want to lose the family that he had. Remember? He didn't want to reverse time, he wanted to bring them back, not undo what Thanos did.
 

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At "Avengers Assemble" I was like :D:D:D

But then at "I am Ironman" I was like :(:(:(

Also that Black Widow movie is gonna be awkward.



It was a lot slower than Infinity War, but f**k me that whole last like 20 minutes or whatever it was was f**king amazing.

I thought the same thing. It wasn't as consistently good like Infinity War was, but it reached higher highs than Infinity War.
 

shiznit

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I thought the same thing. It wasn't as consistently good like Infinity War was, but it reached higher highs than Infinity War.
I think it’s hard to judge this film against infinity war because they really are 1 film.

They shot them back to back.

IW was amazing because they had the licence to do basically what no other Marvel film has been allowed to do which is let the bad guy win and cause as much chaos as they liked...

Endgame was basically handicapped by the fact they have to undo IW first and foremost and then do something that no other Marvel film has had to do.... bring this whole thing to a conclusion...

Every film in the MCU has been building to IW.... then IW, Antman & the Wasp and Capt Marvel were building to Endgame...

Endgame wasn’t building to anything... it was the conclusion to a decade of storytelling... 20 something odd films... they had to provide the payoff for all the fans who followed it through...

They did that I thought...

But IW had the freedom to be abit more daring because it wasn’t burdened with everything that Endgame has to achieve...
 

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I loved it. I could actually feel my heart rate during the final battle. And the girlfriend cried every 20 minutes I think.

The film itself had some pacing issues. Things were drawn out that didn't need to be. Really, it could have been 20 minutes shorter.

I didn't like turning Thor into an overweight joke. He's literally a God and performed probably the greatest entrance in superhero movie history during the battle on Wakanda in Infinity War. I wanted badass Thor.

I also didn't like Banner/Hulk. The rage of Hulk was a sight to see. And to have seen him take on Thanos again would have been justice after getting his arse handed to him in IW.

The time travel was purely a way that the fans could get a sense of nostalgia before saying goodbye.

Overall, it was the right end for every character and the actor that played them.

I can understand criticisms in the films inconsistencies, but to say it was terrible is just plain rubbish. And yes, you're nitpicking.
 

azzah72

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I am not a professional writer so I can't imagine the difficulty of writing the script for endgame and making sure it's something that lives up to the giant expectations that the viewing public would have for it from the past 20+ movies while also making it it entertaining and coherent.

Given that, I thought they did and did it quite well.

You could nitpick but end of they day, it was a great movie with so many things to cover.

It could just as easily been an incoherent, hot mess and I don't think it was at all.

I enjoyed the hell out of it and most of it was pleasing and felt earned.
 

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I think it’s hard to judge this film against infinity war because they really are 1 film.

They shot them back to back.

IW was amazing because they had the licence to do basically what no other Marvel film has been allowed to do which is let the bad guy win and cause as much chaos as they liked...

Endgame was basically handicapped by the fact they have to undo IW first and foremost and then do something that no other Marvel film has had to do.... bring this whole thing to a conclusion...

Every film in the MCU has been building to IW.... then IW, Antman & the Wasp and Capt Marvel were building to Endgame...

Endgame wasn’t building to anything... it was the conclusion to a decade of storytelling... 20 something odd films... they had to provide the payoff for all the fans who followed it through...

They did that I thought...

But IW had the freedom to be abit more daring because it wasn’t burdened with everything that Endgame has to achieve...

I agree with all of that.

Endgame did exactly what it meant to do. Send off Iron Man and Captain America.

And yes, that was America's ass.
 

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Seriously, all these criticisms are just f**king crap.

If you grew up a Marvel fan before these films, these films were made for you because one of you collected the Dragon Balls and wished for all your hero's to come to life.

Be f**king greatful for this wonderful collection of movies you have that you will be able to enjoy with your children and grandchildren.
 

Springs09

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Seriously, all these criticisms are just f**king crap.

If you grew up a Marvel fan before these films, these films were made for you because one of you collected the Dragon Balls and wished for all your hero's to come to life.

Be f**king greatful for this wonderful collection of movies you have that you will be able to enjoy with your children and grandchildren.

Lol criticisms are crap because just enjoy it.

Such a fanboy thing to say. You just criticised parts of the film yourself two posts ago!

I grew up a DC fan. Am I supposed to just be grateful because I have a bunch of crap DCEU films that piss on the comics just cause I’m a DC fan? People are allowed to dislike films including if they are Marvel fans disliking MCU films.
 

Frederick

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Nitpicking aside, this movie is set to make a stupid amount of money:

Avengers: Endgame' Set for Global Domination, Can It Deliver a $300M Domestic Debut?
by Brad Brevet



April 24, 2019

SATURDAY AM UPDATE: With an estimated $156.7 million, Disney and Marvel's Avengers: Endgame is off to an unheard of, record breaking start, en route to what could be a $345+ million three-day opening. On Thursday night the film delivered the largest Thursday night preview gross with $60 million and now the film's first full day is already the largest single day, opening day and Friday on top of being the fastest ever to $100 million, fastest to $150 million and widest opening of all-time. Heading into the weekend a $300 million start almost seemed aggressive, but it has since become an afterthought.

In fact, Endgame's opening day gross (including previews) is enough to be considered the second largest overall weekend of 2019 so far all on its own. Suffice to say, we are looking at the largest weekend at the domestic box office ever with Endgame likely achieving that mark on its own.

Internationally, Avengers: Endgame has already grossed an estimated $487 million as of the end of Friday for a global haul that currently stands at $644 million. As a result, the film has already broken the record for the highest opening weekend internationally of all-time, topping the $443 million delivered by The Fate of the Furious back in 2017.

The global tally is also already a record, topping the $640.5 million by Avengers: Infinity War just last year, though it is important to remember that film didn't open in China day-and-date with the rest of the world and Endgame has already grossed over $217 million in China. All told, the film's current performance puts it in a position where it just might top $1 billion worldwide in its first five days of release.

Current market leaders are as follows:



  • China - $217.4 million
  • UK - $27.0 million
  • Korea - $23.0 million
  • Australia - $19.7 million
  • Germany - $15.2 million
  • France - $13.5 million
  • Italy - $13.4 million
  • Brazil - $12.5 million
  • Mexico - $12.5 million
  • Philippines - $10.0 million
  • India - $9.0 million
  • Indonesia - $7.7 million
  • Hong Kong - $7.1 million


You can check out all of the Friday estimates right hereand we'll be back tomorrow morning with a complete look at the weekend.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4506&p=.htm
 

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Avengers Endgame - 7/10

This is a real mixed bag, specially considering how high IW set the bar. Endgame is entertaining and engaging, and the three hours whirl past, however it's guilty of being surprisingly lazy and safe.

Captain Marvel rescuing Stark was necessary, but too easy and lost the tension set up in the trailer. Then we get the best half an hour of the movie; amazingly wasting no time in locating Thanos, killing him, abandoning hope, and fast-forwarding to a world with half the planet wiped out. The potential here was absolutely amazing, yet infuriatingly brief. We get tiny hints of PTSD, a view of the new world, and even a small tease of "hey maybe Thanos was onto something", before the second act starts.

And that's where it all derails a bit. Sure we knew time travel was going to come into it, but Ant Man and Stark basically inventing time travel with a combination of jokes, pop culture references, and 'Tony Stark Mulling'. It's as deux ex machina as it gets. They actually have a time stone plot device, amazed they didn't bother using that. Now we get lots of silly entertainment in GOTG and IM3 style which we've seen before. There's the roundup, the unlikely odds, the goofy camaraderie, the quips. It's all been done already. Surprisingly there's not many fight scenes when they go back, I did like Cap vs Cap and Stark meets Stark though. The highlights reel of previous Marvel movies was quite nicely done, albeit feeling a bit like a sitcom reunion episode, until they shoehorn Thanos into the plot.

That post-Thanos world? Gone, won't be seen again.

The third act - intelligent Thanos is replaced by big bad Thanos who, for the umpteenth time, is a black box villain with an army who invades the planet wants to destroy everything. How he managed to jump time too is just hopeless writing. Cue big epic fight, cue reunions, cue sacrifices, everyone tries to squeeze in their bit of face time, the end.

Unlike IW which somehow managed to give it's huge roster justice, Endgame is lopsided and makes the same mistakes Civil War makes. There is just far too much Cappy and Stark, especially Stark who once again basically turned this into his movie. Unfortunately his ending, while dramatic, was telegraphed in and had less impact. I thought they handled Cap's ending very well, and Nat's death was a genuine surprise albeit she and Hawkeye have been underdeveloped all throughout.

The problem is the rest of the crew. Ant Man is given far too much screen time, BannerHulk and Rocket are largely comic relief, Rhodey mopes around. They spent a bit too much time on Nebula, and surprisingly Captain Marvel had almost nothing to do. Ragnarok gave us a fun Thor, but reducing him to a goofy idiot Thor was entertaining for one scene, but the joke was stretched far too long and was almost insulting to his character. Once an otherworldly god who had mostly contempt for the Avengers, then a determined and focused fighter, now a blithering moron like Quill. Total waste.

It sounds very negative, but the movie is a lot of fun. I don't want Snyder grit, but didn't like the wasted setup and inconsistent tone. If you're happy to accept that the serious undertones of IW will be replaced with classic fast food Marvel, then this is exactly what's on the tin. I nitpick hard and find myself disappointed because of what it could have been.
 

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