The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

[The Axe of Druss]

So after all the usual shills were doing some major dick sucking about a week ago, The Eternals is getting a pretty mixed reaction from pro reviewers on RT with just a 71% rating on the tomatometer. Even the "fresh" reviews seem to be pretty charitable with their ratings while admitting it kinda sucked.

So what happened here then? Did it throw away the MCU cookie cutter, colour by numbers format leaving the reviewers having to actually engage their brain for what might be the first time in an eternity, or does it just genuinely suck a giant ass shit?

Its officially the lowest rated MCU movie on RT. Lower than Dark World lol

 

[Game_Breaker]

Its officially the lowest rated MCU movie on RT. Lower than Dark World lol

It looks like it’s been review bombed

 

[bileduct]

It looks like it’s been review bombed

I was about to suggest the same thing but then went and had a look at the page.

There's no audience score up yet. It's the pro reviewer score that's 61% which is very low for a MCU film.

In fact, if you look at just the "top critic" score only, it's at 50%.

 

[The Axe of Druss]

It looks like it’s been review bombed

As Bileduct pointed out, its the official reviewer score not an audience one

 

[Matua]

How does RT work, e.g. what constitutes an official review.

I'm unsure how any movie can be worse than the first two Thors, Hulk and Iron Man 2.

It's especially weird as she's a critically acclaimed director.

Ah well. I'll judge it when I see it.

 

[bileduct]

How does RT work, e.g. what constitutes an official review.

I'm unsure how any movie can be worse than the first two Thors, Hulk and Iron Man 2.

It's especially weird as she's a critically acclaimed director.

Ah well. I'll judge it when I see it.

The "official" review score is an aggregation of people who regularly review movies across a wide variety of publications from mainstream media outlets (NY Times, BBC, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, etc.) to smaller pop culture websites (Nerdist, io9, Looper, etc.) and internet personalities like John Campea and a bunch of prolific bloggers. There's over 3000 active reviewers who contributed to these ratings, though only up to several hundred of them may review any particular film. The "Top Critic" score filters out all the internet personalities and niche websites, aggregating reviews from only the more renowned mainstream media outlets.

Each individual review is broken down to a fresh or rotten rating based on the score given by the reviewer. Anything > 50% is considered fresh, 50% and under is rotten. The aggregate review score is calculated using the formula (fresh reviews / total reviews) * 100.

I wonder how much being a critically acclaimed director actually matters on these MCU films that are directed by committee. Lucrecia Martel turned down Black Widow after being told they already had other people who would be responsible for directing all of the action scenes.

 

[Matua]

The "official" review score is an aggregation of people who regularly review movies across a wide variety of publications from mainstream media outlets (NY Times, BBC, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, etc.) to smaller pop culture websites (Nerdist, io9, Looper, etc.) and internet personalities like John Campea and a bunch of prolific bloggers. There's over 3000 active reviewers who contributed to these ratings, though only up to several hundred of them may review any particular film. The "Top Critic" score filters out all the internet personalities and niche websites, aggregating reviews from only the more renowned mainstream media outlets.

Each individual review is broken down to a fresh or rotten rating based on the score given by the reviewer. Anything > 50% is considered fresh, 50% and under is rotten. The aggregate review score is calculated using the formula (fresh reviews / total reviews) * 100.

I wonder how much being a critically acclaimed director actually matters on these MCU films that are directed by committee. Lucrecia Martel turned down Black Widow after being told they already had other people who would be responsible for directing all of the action scenes.

Cheers for the info. 50% and under seems at odds with how much of the rest of the world works, where it's usually 50% and over.

In all honesty I've never really given a fudge about IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic etc ratings are. It's 2 hours out of my life, if I want to see something I'll just watch it.

I especially don't care about fan ratings after seeing the block voting pre-release B/S that used to happen before IMDB (I think) changed their policy.

 

[shiznit]

It looks like it’s been review bombed

Nahhh I don’t think so… it’s the critics score so it’s legit…

I guess the only thing is it may only have half the reviews so far so it could potentially go up once they all come through…

or it may get worse…

 

[Game_Breaker]

My bad
The review bombing is happening on IMDB

Sounds like it could just be a bad movie

 

[shiznit]

I mean 66% or whatever it is is the lowest MCU film… but it would still be up there for most franchises…

 

[Frederick]

Eternals was...very different to everything else in the MCU. A lot happened, yet it also tended to drag at times. Zhao may have been guilty of trying to cram too much into this movie.

I don't think it was bad, just very different.

 

[bileduct]

I mean 66% or whatever it is is the lowest MCU film… but it would still be up there for most franchises…

49% now... with 44% for the top critics score.

Normally I don't give a shit about RT, but this critic reaction has been pretty interesting.

 

[Matua]

So it weirdly has an audience score of over 80% (which is higher than the two dud Thors).

Ah well, I'm going to watch it on Monday so will be able to report back on whether I agree with the critics or the audience.

 

[Matua]

So I saw it and I liked it, not top tier Marvel, but not as bad as some of the critics are making out, better then the first two Thors, Hulk and Iron Man 2 (and the Zac Snyder DC output, but I'm definitely not a fan of those).

As @Frederick notes it did drag at times, but not excessively so, and I thought it had better than average CGI fights (in comparison to CGI fights in comic book movies).

 

[Zoidberg]

Just got back from Eternals and I really liked it. It did something for me that is pretty rare for a MCU movie, it made me feel. It did feel a little slow here and there, the character arc for a few people disappointed me, but it could easily be separate to the MCU, and hold up.
would recommend.

 

[shiznit]

John Campea the f**kwit ended up leaking a couple of images which had massive spoilers for Spider-Man…

Disney about to suicide that motherf**ker…

 

[The Axe of Druss]

Theyd be doing us all a favour

Hate that merkin

 

[ACTPanthers]

I've managed to avoid the leaks about Spiderman so far... Not sure how long it'll last though

 

[Zoidberg]

I don’t understand people who want to ruin other people’s enjoyment by spoiling surprises.

 

[azzah72]

I saw Eternals last night, as someone who enjoyed the Snyder movies mostly while seeing their flaws, the Eternals was closer to a DC snyderverse movie than your typical Marvel movie albeit done a bit better mostly.

If you had problems with JL overstuffing and introducing too many characters, you'll probably have a problem with this, however, I didn't and don't with this one and despite it being overstuffed (and probably would have made an excellent TV series) I really enjoyed it for what it was.

Interesting Lore, great characters, explained some questions and had pretty intriguing post-credit scenes.

I also couldn't help but have a dumb smile on my face every time Makkari did something with her powers, good stuff.

Only nitpicks are obviously a bit overstuffed and the villain wasn't much really. But this is a character drama at its heart and a pretty good one.

7/10