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The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

Springs

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I think I have never so thoroughly enjoyed a movie that had so many parts I found lame in it. Strange feeling.
 

Springs

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Yeah. I liked it, but not as much as I think I should, if that makes sense.

Yeah, well being a big Batman fan I had problems with a lot of things in the film. Bane's voice for one I found humorous, as though a mixture of Sean Connery and Patrick Stewart had overdubbed it. And the first half an hour was all over the place, with Bruce's intentions on quitting and coming back not holding the emotional weight they should have. It's just like he thought 'alright I better come back'.

I wasn't really cool with how Batman quit for eight years after the last film anyway. It directly contradicted the Joker's 'destined to do this forever' and Gordon's 'he's the hero we need/deserve, a watchful protector etc' foreshadowing I thought was so cleverly placed in the last film. Plus Wayne being batman for a few months then having an eight year break just seemed bizarrely out of character.
Getting into shape and fixing his leg after eight goddamn years seemed like it took no effort at all, considering he had been doing nothing for most of that time.
And also, what kind of police department puts all it's 3000 cops into one easily trappable place?! And then has them slowly walk towards three big tanks and hundreds of men with guns?

And to any big Batman fan Talia was an obvious twist. But leaving it so late left Bane's actions and climax a bit pointless I thought.

And then the ending:
The main problem I have with it is that they all saw the damn explosion to be that close, no radiation poisoning?
I don't like either interpretation of the ending. If Bruce died that would be alright, if he had actually been Batman for more than a few months (with an 8 year break in between), but him dying and leaving a cop he had relatively little to do with as his successor isn't right. If Blake was Robin, Robin has only ever been a partner to Batman. If Blake was meant to be the next Batman, which would mean Bruce meant for him to take over, then it means Gotham still needs Batman so why would Bruce fake his death so he can live somewhere else? Bruce Wayne is Batman, nearly every story about Batman has had anyone else fail at being Batman. And in the Dark Knight, he gets angry at the copycats yet copycat Blake is alright by him?
If there was another sequel, Bruce would surely come back, Robin could not hold a film on his own.
The point is the other two movies had Wayne 'destined to do this forever' which keeps in line with all Batman stories, then this one contradicted all that. And his identity being revealed was also very un-Batmanlike.
And it is implied he left Gotham because there was nothing for him there after Rachel's death, so what? Does that mean he only came back for Rachel? Because he said he wanted to inspire people and continue his parent's legacy. Since Blake is going to be a new vigilante he obviously thinks Gotham still needs a hero, so why run away? There's never been anything for Wayne in Gotham, he's there to protect the people. I just found it very out of character for Bruce Wayne to fake his death, leave Gotham and live with Catwoman in some city just so he didn't have to be Batman anymore. And I also found it out of character for Bruce Wayne to lead Alfred into believing he failed Bruce's parents, after everything Alfred did for him I would have thought Bruce may have spared him the obvious grief it would have caused.

And yet, it's probably my favourite film I have seen this year. It had me more excited during the action scenes than any film since The Dark Knight and the emotional side-story with Alfred was brilliant.
Also both Bane-Bat fights were fantastic as was the prison/climbing scenes and the backstory with Ra's Al Ghul.
 

Dragon

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Pretty disappointed tbh. :( Then again TDK was a hard act to follow and i guess it tied up the series pretty well

Hathaway and Hardy were the highlights for me.

Also was it just the crappy cinema i watched it at or was it super hard to understand Banes voice at times? The conversations between him and batman were like this:

Batman - hrnng hmmm grrrr?
Bane - YES! hnnnng huurrr bbbbrr DIE
 
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Zoidberg

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Not as good as Dark Knight, but it was very good. Will have to see it again, as some films I appreciate more once I know where it's going and I can just enjoy it.

Bane was difficult to understand sometimes but all in all I got the important things he was saying. He had some great moments in the film apart from just his fights.
 

LESStar58

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So I thought it was good. I did raise my eyebrows at the whole "relationship" between Bane and Ra's a Ghul at first. Thought they might have put the Hollywood spin on it but at the same time I was always expecting Talia to turn up.

The big Batman vs Bane smack down in the sewer was brilliantly done.

As for the ending; Nolan may not do another film but I think Bale will. JGL was good but he can't carry a new series on his own IMO.

I reckon I might have to read Knightfall as well but I'm going to see it again next week.
 

Springs

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So I thought it was good. I did raise my eyebrows at the whole "relationship" between Bane and Ra's a Ghul at first. Thought they might have put the Hollywood spin on it but at the same time I was always expecting Talia to turn up.

The big Batman vs Bane smack down in the sewer was brilliantly done.

As for the ending; Nolan may not do another film but I think Bale will. JGL was good but he can't carry a new series on his own IMO.

I reckon I might have to read Knightfall as well but I'm going to see it again next week.

The Batman-Bane fight in the sewer was the best part. If Bale comes back as Batman the ending might be a bit better but no way can
Robin John Blake be Batman in a new film. Untrained in fighting, no gadgets, no connection to Alfred or Lucius, no brilliant intellect and nowhere near the Bruce Wayne-level detective skills.

The biggest disappointment for me was the contradictions from the previous films. What happened to the escalation Gordon talked about? All the inmates at Arkham that escaped in a brilliant nod to Batman's future battles against his Rogues Gallery? What about him being a watchful protector and 'destined to do this forever'? (The first two films were clearly about Batman's origins and I just think Nolan contradicted the tone of the series with this one) Is the answer to this 'I'm now above all the murder, rape and theft that's obviously going to happen with hundreds of crazies on the loose in the world's greatest city so I'm going to disappear for 8 years...'? It's just so out of character. If he had been Batman for 8 years, maybe it would have made sense. But I hate how it's two films about Batman's beginnings, which turn out to be nearly his whole career lasting about a month, and then one more about his end, with an 8 year gap in between. All the forshadowing and implications that I loved so much in the first two films turned out to be alluding to nothing.
 
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As expected Bane's voice was Sounding like Darth Vader with one testical thanks tI people like Jono. All that whinging and still could not understand him half the time except now he sounds like the annoying robot from Fallout 3.
 

PJ

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I thought Bane was quite clear to be honest.

Enjoyed the movie, fitting ending but could have been better.

I absolutely loved the Knigtfall comic series, and would love to have seen it done properly but for that you would really need all the villains introduced previously so it would be a huge number of films just to get to it.
 

Mader45

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There was a lot to be impressed by. But im towing the chauvinistic line by firstly bringing up Hathaways body in that cat suit. That was the only reason she was picked for the role, right? She cant act. She aint that great in the looks department. But she stretched that latex like a pro.
 

Patorick

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There was a lot to be impressed by. But im towing the chauvinistic line by firstly bringing up Hathaways body in that cat suit. That was the only reason she was picked for the role, right? She cant act. She aint that great in the looks department. But she stretched that latex like a pro.
How can someone be so right and so wrong at the same time.

Paradox.

:crazy:
 

Dragon2010

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There was a lot to be impressed by. But im towing the chauvinistic line by firstly bringing up Hathaways body in that cat suit. That was the only reason she was picked for the role, right? She cant act. She aint that great in the looks department. But she stretched that latex like a pro.

She can't act? Her role in TDKR was one of her best to date and the best as Catwoman. She was everything she needed to be as Catwoman, the way she talked and everything and I reckon she's got a attractive face (But that's just me). Honestly, I thought she was the best choice for Catwoman. But yes Hathaway could certainly wear that suit....Loved her wearing it.

Overall, I loved the movie and it's one of the best I've seen for many reasons. I questioned a few things as a Batman fan but I still loved it either way and told my self there's no possible way Nolan can fit everything and he's reflecting in a few different things and not following the comic books to 100% strict ruling. It was great throughout and the music and composing was great, from the cops vs mercs battle scene the build-up was immense. But honestly what an ending to the series. Only directors like Nolan and those up there could have pulled something like that off.

Already seen it twice at the cinemas and probably go for a 3rd if mates are interested (1st with bro, 2nd with family). Also, Saw the Man of Steel trailer. Does not show much but looks to be a good movie.
 

Generalzod

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She can't act? Her role in TDKR was one of her best to date and the best as Catwoman. She was everything she needed to be as Catwoman, the way she talked and everything and I reckon she's got a attractive face (But that's just me). Honestly, I thought she was the best choice for Catwoman. But yes Hathaway could certainly wear that suit....Loved her wearing it.

Overall, I loved the movie and it's one of the best I've seen for many reasons. I questioned a few things as a Batman fan but I still loved it either way and told my self there's no possible way Nolan can fit everything and he's reflecting in a few different things and not following the comic books to 100% strict ruling. It was great throughout and the music and composing was great, from the cops vs mercs battle scene the build-up was immense. But honestly what an ending to the series. Only directors like Nolan and those up there could have pulled something like that off.

Already seen it twice at the cinemas and probably go for a 3rd if mates are interested (1st with bro, 2nd with family). Also, Saw the Man of Steel trailer. Does not show much but looks to be a good movie.


Michelle Pfeiffer potrayal of Catwoman in Batman Returns was better...Man of Steel trailer looks interesting Zack Snyder showed more of the trailer in this years comic con.
 
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Jono078

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I'm definitely in the minority.. But I really didn't enjoy it that much.

It had some top moments, and looking back those are the moments I remember and I think what a good movie, but overall while watching I didn't think much of it at all.

In fact, I hate these people as reviewers, but I completely agree with everything the chick said; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4Ovv8uyH4

EDIT: The acting was brilliant across the board. Anne never fails to amaze me. I thought it was such a horrible fit, she was amazing, almost stole the show.
 
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Springs

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Hathaway did was she was supposed to do and that's it. The role was nothing groundbreaking and the character itself wasn't that important.

And any time she would make a face and go 'oops' was cringeworthy. As was the 'I guess we're both suckers' scene.

Saying 'she can't act' is silly as she was fine, but several good looking actresses could have done that. It's not like the role was incredibly difficult to play. The majority of roles aren't.
 

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