The decade that was

[Sangreal 86]

Depends on ones definitions of success.

Add to that list Club Champions 2000 - 2003, 2005, 2008

Reserve Grade / NSW Premier League / NSW Cup Premiers : 2005 - 2008

SG Ball 2007 (Dan Mortimer's Team I believe)

Harold Matthews Cup Premiers 03 - 04 and 2008 ( I believe 2004 was Hayne, Mannah, Inu and Matt Keating) (Along with Tautai, Hodgkinson and Tony Williams)

But for some, all of that means nothing unless you have an NRL premiership beside your name.

It is the one thing all fans want, and ache for and with out it some will not see any of the above as anything more than an achievement and not really success.

For some success means achieving your highest aim and nothing else below that matters, in reality our highest aim is the NRL premiership and so without one, we have not been successful for 23 seasons.

Mark the statistics you have posted are a very proud history, and there is not a person I know who does not recognise those achievements, but I believe everyone from fans to players are frustrated that we cannot covert the success from our Junior Representatives Reserve Grade and State Cup sides, to an NRL Premiership. You say for some it all means nothing unless you have an NRL Premiership beside your name, well Mark ask all the players you have named above what their thoughts on what an NRL Premiership means, and I will give you their answer, they would hand you their NSW Jumper, their Australian Jumper to have NRL Premiership beside their names. Every past player of this club is so proud of what the boys have achieved this year and in past years, and it breaks your heart seeing them go so close and then see them in the change room is absolutely gut wrenching. Every player participates for the love of the game from a young age, and then a taste of success as a junior, or the mentoring from an NRL player who is your hero, or a bloke you see on TV every Sunday running around creates inside you the passion and the mongrel needed to be a week in week out success in the most physical game in the world.
Last Thursday I had the absolute pleasure to sit and have breakfast with one of my hero's at his cafe in Southport, called aptly " Judicial" the Legend himself, John Sattler, a tougher gentleman you would never meet. I listen in awe of a bloke who is as gracious as anyone I have ever meet, and he could sense my horror seeing how our great game had ravaged his body, but with a smile and a nod towards the photo's on the wall of him being chaired off with a broken jaw, still smiling with the elation that blocks out all pain. The body in that photo is so far removed from the body in front of me that morning, and it would be a brave man to mention himself with Sats in the same sentence, but every player in the history of our game will go through a similar deterioration of body parts, but the pride of his success can never take that sparkle in the eye or the fire in the belly away. Grand Finals are the hardest thing to come by, so when they come, you have to grab them with both hands as there will be no getting it back, it is gone forever and anyone who says it is only a game has never played it, and anyone who says there is always next year, has never won or lost a Grand Final. Mark the success of our club starts from the bottom of the ladder team of our youngest junior side to the NRL side, so the stats you have posted are very important, but a Grand Final is everything, and it lives with you for the rest of your life.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Hi Sevens,

I have no doubt that winning a Grand Final is the ultimate goal, I am not saying it isn't but it seems you and I are discussing 2 sides of the same coin.

I am saying some people dismiss the above as not important or don't consider it a messure of the clubs success. Personally I think it is very important, and can I say I have been there to personally witness all but the 03 and 04 HM titles and see one messure of the clubs success, the young talent we bring through.

But like everyone I yern for a premiership, for that day, (Hopefully not to far away) when we are one again called the Premier Club, but I do not discount the rest of our achievements as a messure of our success.

 

[Sangreal 86]

Hi Sevens,

I have no doubt that winning a Grand Final is the ultimate goal, I am not saying it isn't but it seems you and I are discussing 2 sides of the same coin.

I am saying some people dismiss the above as not important or don't consider it a messure of the clubs success. Personally I think it is very important, and can I say I have been there to personally witness all but the 03 and 04 HM titles and see one messure of the clubs success, the young talent we bring through.

But like everyone I yern for a premiership, for that day, (Hopefully not to far away) when we are one again called the Premier Club, but I do not discount the rest of our achievements as a messure of our success.

I agree mate they are very important, and we have to continue being the best breeding ground in the game, as without them and their success we have no future.

 

[Captain BF]

Parramatta lost alot of players and with that grub Brian Smith coming to your club he took it down even further. You guys were great with JT at the helm but as soon as Brian Smith came. Whoa. Now that Brian Smith has gone to Roosters hopefully he brings them down too. Hate those bludgers, i also hate you Parramatta fans.

Brian Smith was the coach before JT took over. In fact, he was the coach who brought JT to our club. Hagan took over from JT.

 

[hineyrulz]

:lol: @ Panthertoy

 

[fish eel]

Parra deserves better fans than you. Bandwagon. Us Penrith fans follow through thick and thin. In 07, copped the spoon and a terrible year. We still stuck by them. What is sad that the amount of people that have only tuned up to games because of their winning form. Half of them are probably you guys. Have some respect for your club and support them when the road is dark.

Thank christ we dont have racist, bigoted fans like you frequenting our forum

Yes but when your clubs Islanders outnumber the Australians who originally inhabit this continent then its a little scary. Penrith would have more Samoans in the club then Samoa has in their country (Even before the Tsunami hit). It a little scary and when our white boys move on who is gunna be there to replace them? Islanders

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showpost.php?p=6195856&postcount=4

Now f**k off.

 

[TheParraboy]

The real good thing about this year is the new coach, new board, new direction, etc....all big changes and all necessary changes imo. It sets up an enticing platform for the next decade starting next season

When (not if) we win the comp, it will be the sweetest feeling ever. As Terry says, they are damm hard to win, will be so much more memorable as we have been so close a few times over the last 23 years

 

[Fui!!!]

The longer you wait, the sweeter it is.

Next year will be, in the words of Jeremy Clarkson, SWEEEEEET!!!!

 

[parra pete]

Thank christ we dont have racist, bigoted fans like you frequenting our forum


http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showpost.php?p=6195856&postcount=4

Now f**k off.

Good post Fishy. I hate racist posts like those. Those posts should be deleted and warnings issued....and I hate it when people call other posters 'spastics'.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Mark the statistics you have posted are a very proud history, and there is not a person I know who does not recognise those achievements, but I believe everyone from fans to players are frustrated that we cannot covert the success from our Junior Representatives Reserve Grade and State Cup sides, to an NRL Premiership. You say for some it all means nothing unless you have an NRL Premiership beside your name, well Mark ask all the players you have named above what their thoughts on what an NRL Premiership means, and I will give you their answer, they would hand you their NSW Jumper, their Australian Jumper to have NRL Premiership beside their names. Every past player of this club is so proud of what the boys have achieved this year and in past years, and it breaks your heart seeing them go so close and then see them in the change room is absolutely gut wrenching. Every player participates for the love of the game from a young age, and then a taste of success as a junior, or the mentoring from an NRL player who is your hero, or a bloke you see on TV every Sunday running around creates inside you the passion and the mongrel needed to be a week in week out success in the most physical game in the world.
Last Thursday I had the absolute pleasure to sit and have breakfast with one of my hero's at his cafe in Southport, called aptly " Judicial" the Legend himself, John Sattler, a tougher gentleman you would never meet. I listen in awe of a bloke who is as gracious as anyone I have ever meet, and he could sense my horror seeing how our great game had ravaged his body, but with a smile and a nod towards the photo's on the wall of him being chaired off with a broken jaw, still smiling with the elation that blocks out all pain. The body in that photo is so far removed from the body in front of me that morning, and it would be a brave man to mention himself with Sats in the same sentence, but every player in the history of our game will go through a similar deterioration of body parts, but the pride of his success can never take that sparkle in the eye or the fire in the belly away. Grand Finals are the hardest thing to come by, so when they come, you have to grab them with both hands as there will be no getting it back, it is gone forever and anyone who says it is only a game has never played it, and anyone who says there is always next year, has never won or lost a Grand Final. Mark the success of our club starts from the bottom of the ladder team of our youngest junior side to the NRL side, so the stats you have posted are very important, but a Grand Final is everything, and it lives with you for the rest of your life.

Terry, my thoughts about this years GF are well known... The Eels were duded by the NRL and its refs who allowed wrestlemania and a crap 10 meters throughout most of the game. This is not sour grapes or anger talking here Terry, but what we ALL witnessed in the 2009 GF was "fairness" thrown out the door, allowing the particular strengths of one team to shine while the particular strengths of the other team to weaken.

All my arguments were laid out here: "Breach Of Contract": http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=346493

The NRL has a lot to answer for what happened that day and the new Eels board, the club, the fans etc should have done something about this despicable travesty.

Regardless of the Eels not playing great until after the 60th minute, if the same rules carried out from round 1 to GF preliminary were enforced in the GF the Eels could have run away with this game. Serial offenders from either side would have been routed out and the Eels would have been given every opportunity to win this game. The Storm were more than on the ropes during that last 10 minutes. They were stuffed. Unfortunately the Eels played against 19 players that day.

So I agree with you when you say "but a Grand Final is everything, and it lives with you for the rest of your life." The Eels were robbed Terry and the players, the club, the board, you, the fans and I, will live with this Freemasonic (Knights Of Malta - Knights Hospitallers etc) bullsh*t running the NRL (NEWS LIMITED).

When are we (MAN) ever going to stand up again for what is FAIR and not accept unfairness/injustice/corruption/collusion/deceit/lies again?????

 

[parra-matters]

Terry, my thoughts about this years GF are well known... The Eels were duded by the NRL and its refs who allowed wrestlemania and a crap 10 meters throughout most of the game. This is not sour grapes or anger talking here Terry, but what we ALL witnessed in the 2009 GF was "fairness" thrown out the door, allowing the particular strengths of one team to shine while the particular strengths of the other team to weaken.

All my arguments were laid out here: "Breach Of Contract": http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=346493

The NRL has a lot to answer for what happened that day and the new Eels board, the club, the fans etc should have done something about this despicable travesty.

Regardless of the Eels not playing great until after the 60th minute, if the same rules carried out from round 1 to GF preliminary were enforced in the GF the Eels could have run away with this game. Serial offenders from either side would have been routed out and the Eels would have been given every opportunity to win this game. The Storm were more than on the ropes during that last 10 minutes. They were stuffed. Unfortunately the Eels played against 19 players that day.

So I agree with you when you say "but a Grand Final is everything, and it lives with you for the rest of your life." The Eels were robbed Terry and the players, the club, the board, you, the fans and I, will live with this Freemasonic (Knights Of Malta - Knights Hospitallers etc) bullsh*t running the NRL (NEWS LIMITED).

When are we (MAN) ever going to stand up again for what is FAIR and not accept unfairness/injustice/corruption/collusion/deceit/lies again?????

You still pissed about losing that couple of hundred thousand dollars?
It's only money.

 

[salvy71]

Terry, my thoughts about this years GF are well known... The Eels were duded by the NRL and its refs who allowed wrestlemania and a crap 10 meters throughout most of the game. This is not sour grapes or anger talking here Terry, but what we ALL witnessed in the 2009 GF was "fairness" thrown out the door, allowing the particular strengths of one team to shine while the particular strengths of the other team to weaken.

All my arguments were laid out here: "Breach Of Contract": http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=346493

The NRL has a lot to answer for what happened that day and the new Eels board, the club, the fans etc should have done something about this despicable travesty.

Regardless of the Eels not playing great until after the 60th minute, if the same rules carried out from round 1 to GF preliminary were enforced in the GF the Eels could have run away with this game. Serial offenders from either side would have been routed out and the Eels would have been given every opportunity to win this game. The Storm were more than on the ropes during that last 10 minutes. They were stuffed. Unfortunately the Eels played against 19 players that day.

So I agree with you when you say "but a Grand Final is everything, and it lives with you for the rest of your life." The Eels were robbed Terry and the players, the club, the board, you, the fans and I, will live with this Freemasonic (Knights Of Malta - Knights Hospitallers etc) bullsh*t running the NRL (NEWS LIMITED).

When are we (MAN) ever going to stand up again for what is FAIR and not accept unfairness/injustice/corruption/collusion/deceit/lies again?????

Seriously you have to face the fact that Melbourne were the better team on the day....I think Parra would have won if they'd caught the bomb that Greg Inglis scored from rather than stare at the ball whilst in some sort of trance .....refereeing did not cause the loss.

 

[parra pete]

I am of the opinion that if Luke Burt had converted Moimoi's try, it would have taken the field goal option out of the equation, and the Eels with momentum would have got them home . The field goal, in the overall picture, to me..(and was as a matter of fact) the killer/

 

[bartman]

I didn't think we were robbed on the day - outplayed in the first half, sure.

And while making an improved showing in the second half I don't think it was enough to make us the better team on the day in anyone's eyes? Melbourne were too good at doing to us what we'd been doing to other sides - our defence cracked and they made the most of their opportunities.

We were unlucky, and it was close etc, but the result imo was fair and hence we weren't robbed...

 

[parra pete]

I didn't think we were robbed on the day - outplayed in the first half, sure.

And while making an improved showing in the second half I don't think it was enough to make us the better team on the day in anyone's eyes? Melbourne were too good at doing to us what we'd been doing to other sides - our defence cracked and they made the most of their opportunities.

We were unlucky, and it was close etc, but the result imo was fair and hence we weren't robbed...

No question about that....

 

[hineyrulz]

I didn't think we were robbed on the day - outplayed in the first half, sure.

And while making an improved showing in the second half I don't think it was enough to make us the better team on the day in anyone's eyes? Melbourne were too good at doing to us what we'd been doing to other sides - our defence cracked and they made the most of their opportunities.

We were unlucky, and it was close etc, but the result imo was fair and hence we weren't robbed...

Can't argue that, wasn't the refs fault we froze in the first half.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

In England, they feel there is no point in bagging the referees because all the mistakes even up at the end of the season.

 

[TheParraboy]

In England, they feel there is no point in bagging the referees because all the mistakes even up at the end of the season.

like in that premier league soccer game, the ball that hit a beachball before entering the goalposts and ref called it a fair goal :lol: