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The Euro 2008 thread

fish eel

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3-1 germany......30 to go.....

michael ballack really stamping his authority on this tournament
 

fish eel

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18 minutes plus injury time left...the wind looks like it is starting to go out of Portugal's sails.
 

hybrid_tiger

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Bah!

Portugal will tear 'em a new one. Germany are very fragile at the back and few teams will expose that more than Portugal . And ive never rated any of Germany's striking options.

And let's not forget they have Lehamnn in goal. (Although Ricardo ain't much better)

Portugal 3-1

:D

Let history be a lesson. Portugal are sh1t and have no balls.
 

fish eel

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:D

Let history be a lesson. Portugal are sh1t and have no balls.

for all portugal's dominance in terms of possession and shots, Lehman hasnt really been forced to make many saves.

I'm surprised they havent pushed down their right...or Germanys left more. Lahm has been under a bit of pressure there because Podolski is so abject defensively.

Couldn't believe these commentators though, in the first half, such a great half of football and they're talking about how england were in the real group of death in qualifying because russia and croatia made the quarters....

Oh, and Nani has been sh*t. Portugal stopped threatening as soon as Scolari changed things and he came on.
 

fish eel

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for all portugal's dominance in terms of possession and shots, Lehman hasnt really been forced to make many saves.

I'm surprised they havent pushed down their right...or Germanys left more. Lahm has been under a bit of pressure there because Podolski is so abject defensively.

Couldn't believe these commentators though, in the first half, such a great half of football and they're talking about how england were in the real group of death in qualifying because russia and croatia made the quarters....

Oh, and Nani has been sh*t. Portugal stopped threatening as soon as Scolari changed things and he came on
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LOL....and right on cue Nani supplies a goal. Big finish coming up
 

fish eel

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and Germany the first side into the semi finals.

The winner of Turkey Croatia awaits.

Geeze, a Germany/Turkey match would be massive. There are a hell of a lot of Turks living in Germany.
 

abpanther

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I thought Nani was pretty good, provided some spark, did more than Ronaldo.

No mention of Ballack's blatant push in the back for the 3rd goal?
 

fish eel

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I thought Nani was pretty good, provided some spark, did more than Ronaldo.

For most of the time Nani was on, he just ran around, keeping the ball but doing nothing effective. Nice play to set up that goal though. Ronaldo was kept in check, though did deliver for Portugals first.

No mention of Ballack's blatant push in the back for the 3rd goal?

Yeah, there was a push, but even the commentators took 3 or 4 minutes to pick it up on the replays. Ricardo should have done better though, he was WAY out of position.
 

hybrid_tiger

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Scolari is a sh1t coach and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. Portugal under his tenture were massively over-rated.

They've only once come back from a deficit in a major tournament under him (England in Euro 2004) but that was only a 1-0 lead and against a tactically inept team just absolutely asking to lose their lead, with the backing of a big home crowd.

Then they are down by two goals and he still doesn't have the balls to play two strikers?

Portugal can't complain about the clear cut chances missed by Moutinho and Pepe when they only ever play one natural striker (if that). They've possessed much more goalscoring strength up front since the '90s when they could be justified to play one up front, yet Scolari's still felt compelled to not partner Pauleta with Nuno Gomes in Euro 2004 and WC 2006, and Hugo Almeida (having scored 11 in 23 games with Werder Bremen this season) with Nuno Gomes in this tournament. Yet hardly anyone makes mention of it.

People these days get too impressed by technique alone and think it automatically means beautiful, awesome attacking football. The preference for a Petit or Costinha, when Maniche/Moutinho and Deco were already reasonably capable of holding the midfield themselves in the past four years, is depressing and regressive, only flattered by the poor tournaments of 2004 and 2006.

Nor can they complain too much about Ferreira being pushed for Ballack's goal. He's looked sh1t all tournament and been lucky to again be a starter. He let Schweinsteiger badly get in front of him for the first goal too. The poor set-piece defending has been a trademark of Scolari's reign: Lampard's equaliser in the 2004 quarter-final, Charasteas' winner in the final, Fonseca's goal in the Mexico group game in 2006, Sionko's in the Czechia game this year and now two today. Very static defending and poor decision making from Ricardo in all of them. Strange that it's never been improved upon with four years work.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 

langpark

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Sounds like these two Greek kids at school in 04. Celebrating like crazy, cooking souvlaki for the school etc. Asked them to name 3 players and they couldn't!
that's exactly what i was gonna say, those are the fairweather androtops who went missing this tournament. And I know the exact people hybrid is talking about when he describes them like that :lol:


Does anyone else think the knockout system atm is a bit stuffed? Like how Germany and Croatia will meet again next round if Croatia wins? This didn't happen last Euro, Greece and Portugal were in the same group and it wasn't possible for them to meet again until the final. It means we could also see Holland/Italy or Russia/Spain again. Not as exciting IMO.
 

langpark

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Scolari is a sh1t coach and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. Portugal under his tenture were massively over-rated.

They've only once come back from a deficit in a major tournament under him (England in Euro 2004) but that was only a 1-0 lead and against a tactically inept team just absolutely asking to lose their lead, with the backing of a big home crowd.

Then they are down by two goals and he still doesn't have the balls to play two strikers?

Portugal can't complain about the clear cut chances missed by Moutinho and Pepe when they only ever play one natural striker (if that). They've possessed much more goalscoring strength up front since the '90s when they could be justified to play one up front, yet Scolari's still felt compelled to not partner Pauleta with Nuno Gomes in Euro 2004 and WC 2006, and Hugo Almeida (having scored 11 in 23 games with Werder Bremen this season) with Nuno Gomes in this tournament. Yet hardly anyone makes mention of it.

People these days get too impressed by technique alone and think it automatically means beautiful, awesome attacking football. The preference for a Petit or Costinha, when Maniche/Moutinho and Deco were already reasonably capable of holding the midfield themselves in the past four years, is depressing and regressive, only flattered by the poor tournaments of 2004 and 2006.

Nor can they complain too much about Ferreira being pushed for Ballack's goal. He's looked sh1t all tournament and been lucky to again be a starter. He let Schweinsteiger badly get in front of him for the first goal too. The poor set-piece defending has been a trademark of Scolari's reign: Lampard's equaliser in the 2004 quarter-final, Charasteas' winner in the final, Fonseca's goal in the Mexico group game in 2006, Sionko's in the Czechia game this year and now two today. Very static defending and poor decision making from Ricardo in all of them. Strange that it's never been improved upon with four years work.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Glad you said it, coz I wouldn't have been allowed to!
 

sthginke

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Scolari is a sh1t coach and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. Portugal under his tenture were massively over-rated.

They've only once come back from a deficit in a major tournament under him (England in Euro 2004) but that was only a 1-0 lead and against a tactically inept team just absolutely asking to lose their lead, with the backing of a big home crowd.

Then they are down by two goals and he still doesn't have the balls to play two strikers?

Portugal can't complain about the clear cut chances missed by Moutinho and Pepe when they only ever play one natural striker (if that). They've possessed much more goalscoring strength up front since the '90s when they could be justified to play one up front, yet Scolari's still felt compelled to not partner Pauleta with Nuno Gomes in Euro 2004 and WC 2006, and Hugo Almeida (having scored 11 in 23 games with Werder Bremen this season) with Nuno Gomes in this tournament. Yet hardly anyone makes mention of it.

People these days get too impressed by technique alone and think it automatically means beautiful, awesome attacking football. The preference for a Petit or Costinha, when Maniche/Moutinho and Deco were already reasonably capable of holding the midfield themselves in the past four years, is depressing and regressive, only flattered by the poor tournaments of 2004 and 2006.

Nor can they complain too much about Ferreira being pushed for Ballack's goal. He's looked sh1t all tournament and been lucky to again be a starter. He let Schweinsteiger badly get in front of him for the first goal too. The poor set-piece defending has been a trademark of Scolari's reign: Lampard's equaliser in the 2004 quarter-final, Charasteas' winner in the final, Fonseca's goal in the Mexico group game in 2006, Sionko's in the Czechia game this year and now two today. Very static defending and poor decision making from Ricardo in all of them. Strange that it's never been improved upon with four years work.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

i don't know who that guy is, but i agree with everything he wrote.

Scolari's teams that he's coached in brazil have been little more that petty thugs kicking their opponents
 

langpark

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atleast there's a bit of substance to what Hybrid wrote rather than just saying you hate him because you dont think he gave ronaldo a fair go in 06 :lol:
I forgot you expect people to write an essay every time they say they hate someone.
 
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