The jack wighton hype

[mozza91]

Even at 800k Wighton in the centres is pretty big overs. I don’t think another error prone, rocks or diamonds type player will improve them that much. Especially if they lose players to accommodate him.

 

[Wb1234]

Even at 800k Wighton in the centres is pretty big overs. I don’t think another error prone rocks or diamonds type player will improve them that much. Especially if the lose players to accommodate him.

Sualli is on similar

I think it’s an excellent signing

 

[some11]

Jack is sick of the Stick.

 

[marshall stalin]

That's such a weird puff piece for the Rabbits.

Only team to not recruit outside their top 30 is meaningless, some teams recruited two or so minimum wage players and busted arse vets (like the Cowboys)

The then list Mark Nicholls (Dolphins), Kodi Nikorima (Dolphins), Jaxson Paulo (Roosters), Josh Mansour (released) as some sort of high priced group, that would all be on millions.

But my favourite is when the mention they let representative star (their words not mine) 38 year old Benji Marshall retire, as if this saved $1M or something.

I do like that they are boasting that they are underpaying a whole group of players in the current team, by not re-negotiating ratchet clauses into their contracts.

All clubs have to spend at least 95% of their salary cap each season though so having all this spare money laying around seems far fetched to the say the least. Wighton strangely announced his retirement from Rep football then signs a 4 year contract with Souths for 1 million less that what Canberra and Dolphins offered.

Teams can sign players for x amount but the salary cap auditor folk ultimately determines the players market value for salary cap purposes.

Was this "retirement" from Rep football a way to lesson his market value for salary cap purposes as Souths could argue Wighton is no longer a rep player and also oh he's playing centre ( the old centre salary argument).

On FOX Hooper was saying Wightons contract is back ended which is illegal. Something is not quite right with this.

Hooper then said “the deal is back-ended” and that Wighton will earn $700,000 then $750,000 then $900,000 then $950,000 over the next four years.

“Back-ended contracts are illegal in the NRL,” Kent responded.

‘The salary cap is a joke’: Kenty fumes over $300k Wighton reveal, questions if new contract is ‘illegal’

‘Salary cap is a joke’: Kenty fumes over $300k Wighton reveal, questions if contract is ‘illegal’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[marshall stalin]

Sualli is on similar

I think it’s an excellent signing

Souths Sombrero

 

[Port Stephens Magpie]

Jack is sick of the Stick.

Paywall dude

 

[Chimp]

Pretty simple, if the manager wasn't happy with it, Jack could find a new one. Then that manager's percent would be 0.

So… this is where it gets interesting, and is what Paul Kent was insinuating.

Matt Rose (along with George) are also the key man behind the boxing promotions that NRL players get involved in. Often their events involve Star Casino, whether in terms of venues or sponsorship. There would be absolutely no audit trail possible of money going from Star to boxing promoter via boxing events, and eventually dropping down to any NRL player.
Hypothetically speaking, a player could sign with Souths for 800k. Separately Star pay ‘No Limit’ the boxing promotion company 900k in ‘sponsorship’ of an event. No Limit then pay same NRL player 800k for an appearance at one of their events. All legit, all above board, nothing to see here…..
If there’s a special relationship between Souths, Star and No Limit, there really are no limits.
On the notional value piece, if the NRL made it compulsory that all offers had to be submitted to the NRL, surely those offers should be used to determine any notional value. That process could also be used to ensure clubs are only making bids for players that are salary cap compliant, and say any offers submitted to NRL become binding, so clubs can’t use that process to artificially increase the value of a player they don’t really have any intention of signing.

 

[Port Stephens Magpie]

So… this is where it gets interesting, and is what Paul Kent was insinuating.

Matt Rose (along with George) are also the key man behind the boxing promotions that NRL players get involved in. Often their events involve Star Casino, whether in terms of venues or sponsorship. There would be absolutely no audit trail possible of money going from Star to boxing promoter via boxing events, and eventually dropping down to any NRL player.
Hypothetically speaking, a player could sign with Souths for 800k. Separately Star pay ‘No Limit’ the boxing promotion company 900k in ‘sponsorship’ of an event. No Limit then pay same NRL player 800k for an appearance at one of their events. All legit, all above board, nothing to see here…..
If there’s a special relationship between Souths, Star and No Limit, there really are no limits.
On the notional value piece, if the NRL made it compulsory that all offers had to be submitted to the NRL, surely those offers should be used to determine any notional value. That process could also be used to ensure clubs are only making bids for players that are salary cap compliant, and say any offers submitted to NRL become binding, so clubs can’t use that process to artificially increase the value of a player they don’t really have any intention of signing.

Very good insight mate. Certainly worth a thought, I didn't originally understand Kent with the boxing part when he mentioned it the other the night.

 

[Chimp]

Very good insight mate. Certainly worth a thought, I didn't originally understand Kent with the boxing part when he mentioned it the other the night.

Would fully explain why an agent would be happy for his client to go for a much lower contract.

 

[Chimp]

As an add on, I saw a few people saying they thought Souths legal guys might have sent a note in to Fox that prompted Kent’s apology. Given how involved Kent has been with boxing (including the no limits promotions), I’d suggest it’s much more likely he got a text from someone at No Limit telling him to wind his neck in and remember where his bread is buttered.
When ranting, Kent had said something along the lines of ‘we all know how it’s done’ when talking about manoeuvring around the cap, and then blurted out the ‘I bet he’ll get an earn through boxing’ line….
I reckon Kent’s loyalty to Sticky has muddied the waters of his thinking and he’s got on a rant, not realising he’s implicating a whole other group of people who line his own pockets.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Looks like he’s wearing a poor quality rug, there

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

So… this is where it gets interesting, and is what Paul Kent was insinuating.

Matt Rose (along with George) are also the key man behind the boxing promotions that NRL players get involved in. Often their events involve Star Casino, whether in terms of venues or sponsorship. There would be absolutely no audit trail possible of money going from Star to boxing promoter via boxing events, and eventually dropping down to any NRL player.
Hypothetically speaking, a player could sign with Souths for 800k. Separately Star pay ‘No Limit’ the boxing promotion company 900k in ‘sponsorship’ of an event. No Limit then pay same NRL player 800k for an appearance at one of their events. All legit, all above board, nothing to see here…..
If there’s a special relationship between Souths, Star and No Limit, there really are no limits.
On the notional value piece, if the NRL made it compulsory that all offers had to be submitted to the NRL, surely those offers should be used to determine any notional value. That process could also be used to ensure clubs are only making bids for players that are salary cap compliant, and say any offers submitted to NRL become binding, so clubs can’t use that process to artificially increase the value of a player they don’t really have any intention of signing.

Are you implying that casinos are possibly dodgy, sir?

 

[Munky]

Are you implying that casinos are possibly dodgy, sir?

What next, besmirching the honour of used car dealers?

 

[wazdog]

So… this is where it gets interesting, and is what Paul Kent was insinuating.

Matt Rose (along with George) are also the key man behind the boxing promotions that NRL players get involved in. Often their events involve Star Casino, whether in terms of venues or sponsorship. There would be absolutely no audit trail possible of money going from Star to boxing promoter via boxing events, and eventually dropping down to any NRL player.
Hypothetically speaking, a player could sign with Souths for 800k. Separately Star pay ‘No Limit’ the boxing promotion company 900k in ‘sponsorship’ of an event. No Limit then pay same NRL player 800k for an appearance at one of their events. All legit, all above board, nothing to see here…..
If there’s a special relationship between Souths, Star and No Limit, there really are no limits.
On the notional value piece, if the NRL made it compulsory that all offers had to be submitted to the NRL, surely those offers should be used to determine any notional value. That process could also be used to ensure clubs are only making bids for players that are salary cap compliant, and say any offers submitted to NRL become binding, so clubs can’t use that process to artificially increase the value of a player they don’t really have any intention of signing.

Souths are sponsored by Crown Resorts, Star Casino’s only competitor. Maybe they should have signed Jack to a four year deal from January to October each year.

On notional value did they apply that to the Cheese for taking unders to go to the Roosters or Munster to remain at the Storm? Or does notional value only apply to some clubs?

I find it odd that Canberra registered a contract with the NRL. What did they register? An unsigned contract that only one party agreed to? They could have put any value on it (it doesn’t mean that becomes the notional value).

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Souths are sponsored by Crown Resorts, Star Casino’s only competitor. Maybe they should have signed Jack to a four year deal from January to October each year.

On notional value did they apply that to the Cheese for taking unders to go to the Roosters or Munster to remain at the Storm? Or does notional value only apply to some clubs?

I find it odd that Canberra registered a contract with the NRL. What did they register? An unsigned contract that only one party agreed to? They could have put any value on it (it doesn’t mean that becomes the notional value).

TBF Cheese was stuck behind Grant in the pecking order at Storm and was only taking a 100k unders to go to a perennial finals playing club where regular prize money would help make up the shortfall. Going there under those circumstances isn’t so hard to believe. Do agree with your points however.

 

[skeepe]

Notional value is bullshit. If a club is able to convince a player to sign with them for less than market value, good on them.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Bobby be like:
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It's OK buddy. Next year, you've still got Kevvie.

Get ya war paint ready!

 

[wazdog]

TBF Cheese was stuck behind Grant in the pecking order at Storm and was only taking a 100k unders to go to a perennial finals playing club where regular prize money would help make up the shortfall. Going there under those circumstances isn’t so hard to believe. Do agree with your points however.

I’d agree with you if he was going from the Tigers to you guys but he went from the Storm who have finished above the Roosters from a regular season perspective over the last three years, therefore his earnings potential from playing in the finals would be the same.

Also as you’ve said he was a bench player at the Storm and is now a starting hooker which is a promotion.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

I’d agree with you if he was going from the Tigers to you guys but he went from the Storm who have finished above the Roosters from a regular season perspective over the last three years, therefore his earnings potential from playing in the finals would be the same.

Also as you’ve said he was a bench player at the Storm and is now a starting hooker which is a promotion.

So an incentive to go to the Roosters?

 

[yobbo84]

As someone who grew up in the 90's in the Bankstown area, when Souths were a joke and the Bulldogs dominating, then the Super League War, then our exclusion, then our fightback and re-admission, then falling into old ways, being a joke again and almost folding, to the privatisation vote and the insanity around of all that, then making the finals for the first time in 18 years, then a premiership after 43 years.....

To see us now as a club who are not laughed at, but perennially a final four side and openly disdained in the Rugby League discourse.... f**k me I love it. We are one of the big boys. It warms the heart.