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The Las Vegas Thread

Perth Red

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Haha vegas wasn’t a disaster but ffs, hardly anyone watched it on tv and hardly anyone went to the game from America. Still the bosses and journos got great junkets out of it so I’m sure they’ll talk it up so they all get their freebies again next year. Great work Pete.
 

final say

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Haha vegas wasn’t a disaster but ffs, hardly anyone watched it on tv and hardly anyone went to the game from America. Still the bosses and journos got great junkets out of it so I’m sure they’ll talk it up so they all get their freebies again next year. Great work Pete.
Not quite the disaster you were hoping for but just not quite good enough for you to be able to resist a haha to PVL.

You're cheering for the entire NRL to fail just to vindicate your hatred for V’landys.
Please just stop pretending to be a League fan .

To put things in perspective for you: 63k people just turned in that otherwise wouldn't have.
We generated the best Fox ratings here in Australia ever - and that was accomplished outside of prime time!!
This has been the most publicised start to a season in history.
There's now intrest for San Francisco 49ers to buy an NRL club.
The prospect of a professional comp in the USA has received a massive boost.
Now after taking all that into account..
As the great man has already made clear that this is only the foundation of a 5 year plan.
There will be a bigger crowd next year for the event and I'm sure Pete is working diligently to get better figures next year and year after that.
you see that why he's great- he'll keep working and you'll keep Muppeting.

You are the biggest flog.
 

taste2taste

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Yes the novelty for Australian fans got them watching teams they wouldn’t normally watch. Was that the point of it? Domestic ratings up by a 100k or so?
The ratings in the US were disappointing but not surprising, those numbers are in line with what Rugby rates on American TV. World Rugby pay FS1 to televise MLR games, let's hope the NRL never goes down that path

I was surprised to read there was a reasonable amount gambled on the games but the NRL doesn't get any of that revenue, US bookmakers don't have to pay the sport a fee :/
 

siv

First Grade
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Agree with everything you've said regarding pilgrimage, and taking our time to grow, and introducing women's game, etc.
My only concern is for 3 games in a day, it tends to turn into a coming-and-going affair where people leave their seats for a while similar to what you see at Magic Round. Then it never looks full and loses some of the atmospehere.

Im wondering if (when they go to more than 2 games), they go 4 games - 2 on Fri night and 2 on Sat night. Have tickets available for one night or both nights packages. That way if people are paying for both and its only for two games, they may be more inclined to sit through both? Realisitically all the Aussies travelling would pay the extra $19 for the other night their team isnt playing anyway.

Just my two cents.
No keep it at 2 or 3 with a NRLW

Keeps everyone focused on the one event day
 

Wb1234

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Haha vegas wasn’t a disaster but ffs, hardly anyone watched it on tv and hardly anyone went to the game from America. Still the bosses and journos got great junkets out of it so I’m sure they’ll talk it up so they all get their freebies again next year. Great work Pete.
Better ratings than Perth
 

siv

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Yes the novelty for Australian fans got them watching teams they wouldn’t normally watch. Was that the point of it? Domestic ratings up by a 100k or so?
Many were watching to see what all the Vegas fuss was about
 

JamesRustle

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San Francisco 49ers owner Al Guido interested in buying an NRL team after Las Vegas dream run​

In a country where multi-sport ownership is a big deal, the owner of the San Francisco 49ers is looking to make another investment in what could be a game changer for the NRL.

Franciscos 49ers, the powerhouse NFL franchise that only weeks ago was beaten in the Super Bowl by the Kansas City Chiefs.
Under his leadership, the 49ers organisation has expanded their sporting tentacles, buying a share in English football powerhouse Leeds. Next stop could be the NRL.

Guido, who addressed ARL commissioners and club bosses at a conference in Las Vegas last week, has watched closely this week as rugby league has taken America by storm and says the 49ers may explore the opportunity to buy a stake or control of an NRL club.
He believes cashed-up private equity firms may do the same as they look to take advantage of the NRL’s financial golden age by grabbing a slice of the sport.

"At the Niners, we like the thought of multi-sport ownership,” said Guido, who is also chair and chief executive of sports consulting firm Elevate.
“It is not a new concept. We will look at anything that has a passionate fan base because to us it starts with that.
“If people are coming through the gates and supporting it, the reality is you have a pretty good commercial opportunity.
“That is the neat thing about Elevate – I get to wear two hats. We see a lot of deal flow. We represent a lot of people who buy some of these clubs.
“To us Leeds fit the persona. It was a team that has historical context, it had won championships, it fell on tough teams, it was a one team town, massive support even in the championship. It has worked out so far.
“If that worked in rugby (league) for the right club, would we take a look? Absolutely.”

BUYING IN
Guido has no doubt rugby league and their flourishing clubs are in the sights of private equity firms thanks to soaring NRL revenues – head office raked in more than $700 million last year.
With the game’s central administration in record shape, the clubs are enjoying the largesse in the form of record grants. Where once clubs lived on the breadline, they are now regularly returning multimillion dollar profits.
They are also now on the radar of American
investors thanks in large part to their season-opening double header in Las Vegas at the weekend.

“I don’t have any data behind this outside of saying if you look at what has happened in call it European football, and the penetration of US buyer into that market, it is hard not to go back and correlate it to those games were being broadcast in America and those teams were coming here at rapid rates,” Guido said.
“American investors were seeing in their mind undervalued assets with passionate fan bases. There are discussion that are happening – we all see the same reports – with private equity coming into these leagues.
“This is not going to stop. That is why I think it is not just the NRL. It is the power of live sports and if you are looking at content, sports is the way to go.”
THE NRL’S AMERICAN STRATEGY
Guido played a pivotal role in the 49ers and NFL adopting a global strategy of expansion by playing games in England, Mexico and Germany.
Just as the NFL has made inroads on the world stage by taking games that matter to other countries, Guido has backed the NRL’s plans to do likewise.
“I think it is very ambitious,” Guido said.
“But I think it is an interesting move. I think it follows a lot of what the NFL went though when they thought about having an international strategy.
“A couple of things I think they are doing really well – having games that matter. I think kicking off the season in Las Vegas, the entertainment capital of the US, on the heels of playing the Super Bowl here is really smart.”

Guido believes the NRL can make its mark in America.
“I do think the strategy is sound,” he said.
“I think they are on to something. But I will tell them and tell all the fans, it is going to take time.
“The NFL, they call it the biggest league in the world, it took a long time for our international strategy to really pay off in those markets.”
IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME
The 49ers’ home ground at Levi Stadium was built a decade ago for the princely sum of $US1.3 billion.
According to Guido, it is already out of date. Remarkably, the 49ers will spend $US300 million on the stadium in coming years to bring it up to speed.
The NFL is locked in an arm’s race when it comes to stadia and Guido insists that the 49ers can’t be left behind.
The NRL, meanwhile, is fighting an ongoing battle to convince the NSW government to invest in their stadia. Allianz Stadium has been a blessing but is underused by NRL clubs.
Penrith is about to get a new stadium in the golden west but Accor Stadium is an eyesore and suburban grounds are withering on the vine.
“I do think there is this whole field of dreams concept where if you build it, they will come,” Guido said.

“If you keep your stadium infrastructure top off the line, first class, people will pay top dollar for those and continue to support.
“I do think it helps brings tourism to a market …. Because stadiums are now what’s people would have thought of theatres in the past.
“People that are fans of rugby league, whether they live in America or across the globe, they will embark on visit a new stadium that is built.
“That’s why you all came here. There is intrigue in seeing the new stadium at Allegiant. There is intrigue in the game but there is intrigue use in the stadium.”
THE NRL’S AMERICAN FUTURE
The NRL will return to Las Vegas next year as part of a five-year commitment to open the season in America.
Beyond that, it is game on. Having watched the game flourish over the past week on foreign shores, Guido believes is it is only a matter of time before other cities start to woo the NRL.
In fact, Guido hasn’t ruled out the 49ers making a play to bring the double header to Levi Stadium.

“I wasn’t involved in any of the negotiations to come here,” Guido said.
“I think a proper strategy going forward – and again this is not a new idea – is leveraging US markets and figuring which ones are the best to go to and will support this league.

“I do think Vegas is the right first step given size of market and the strategy around gambling. As they get past next year, of course if I were counselling the commissioner I would say look around.
“There are a lot of great markets in America and there might be markets in America that have more penetration of young folks playing the sport itself, people who are passionate about it.
“But for the first two years I do think this was the proper strategy and proper market. We might wake up next year and this is sold out within 15 minute of putting it on sale because this is the market everyone wants to come to. But if I was them, I would leverage it as much as possible.”

He should buy the broncos so he owns the two most recent grand final losers.
 

siv

First Grade
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So on the metrics so far

Attendance - 40k good
Local ratings - 61k fair but way below the 1% target
US v Canada game - empty grandstand - poor

Betting - if $0 goes to the NRL then poor
Watch NRL subscribers - feedback price way too high. People just VPN to bypass. But early days

Merchandise - too early to sell
 
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