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The Leuluai saga continues: Part 176

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Jake the snake said:
Its clear that the Warriors want Leulaui to go to England he should just accept this and move on.

I think the Warriors should accept that the kid wants to play in the NRL, and let him. If they ever want him to come back later in his career this sure as heck isn't the way to do it. And what's to stop him from signing a one yer deal in England and then coming to Parra anyway? Realistically the Warriors can only hope to delay him playing in the NRL if that's what he really wants to do, so why not just face facts and let him?
 
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Lyon wanted to play at Manly but Parra said no. So just because Parra is on the other end now doesn't mean we should get him. Warriors can do ever they want and Parra just have abide by it.
 

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Lyon wanted to play at Manly but Parra said no. So just because Parra is on the other end now doesn't mean we should get him. Warriors can do ever they want and Parra just have abide by it.

I agree with that to a point, but the difference is that Parra said no to Manly straight off, whereas Parra have had permission to negotiate, and then the Warriors changed their minds and revoked it. Meaning young Thomas was all set to come over here, where he wants to play, and then the Warriors basically said "Oh, sorry, we didn't mean it." From what I've heard, we got to the stage of negotiating release fees with NZ before they pulled the plug for what, the third time? Give the kid a break, he just wants to play footy, and if the Warriors don't want him they should let him decide where he does that.
 

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think the Warriors should accept that the kid wants to play in the NRL, and let him

Tne Warriors would argue he is contracted to them, so if he wants to play NRL it should be with them
 

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That would be a pretty silly argument as they are the team giving him a release, he didn't ask for it as far as I know, he's being cut.
 

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Bazal said:
That would be a pretty silly argument as they are the team giving him a release, he didn't ask for it as far as I know, he's being cut.

he did infact ask for a release because of the limited game time he was getting.
 

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Bazal said:
That would be a pretty silly argument as they are the team giving him a release, he didn't ask for it as far as I know, he's being cut.

he did infact ask for a release because of the limited game time he was getting.

Did he? Fair enough then. I was under the impression he'd been dumped.
 

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Bazal said:
eelavation said:
Bazal said:
That would be a pretty silly argument as they are the team giving him a release, he didn't ask for it as far as I know, he's being cut.

he did infact ask for a release because of the limited game time he was getting.

Did he? Fair enough then. I was under the impression he'd been dumped.

he's still under contract for next year, so you can't really dump him with out paying him out.. however if he breaks the code of conduct that's another story.
 

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i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.
 

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That would be a pretty silly argument as they are the team giving him a release, he didn't ask for it as far as I know, he's being cut.

Well, no, as eela said, he asked for it, the warriors would be within their rights to say, sorry son, if you want to play NRL, work for your spot here!.

at least the kid is going through the right channels unlike someone else
 

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Pazza said:
i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.

personally I don't think it's a problem with depth! in that area.

I concede there's an element of gambleing or risk at what their doing but we're in a much better position in that role than what we were in 03 or 04
 

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That would be a pretty silly argument as they are the team giving him a release, he didn't ask for it as far as I know, he's being cut.

Well, no, as eela said, he asked for it, the warriors would be within their rights to say, sorry son, if you want to play NRL, work for your spot here!.

at least the kid is going through the right channels unlike someone else

They would be within their rights, yes, but at the same time you have to really look at it from Thomas' point of view if you are the warriors. You'd think it was more in their interests to let him go with blessings, and part on good terms, as the kid has expressed a desire to return someday. Screwing him around like this is only going to give him a poor outlook towards the team, and he'll probably end up signing a short term deal in the UK, as he wants to leave, and then returning to the NRL anyway. Plus I hardly think the rest of the team will benefit from it either, it helps to know who your halves will be and I'm pretty sure the Warriors wouldn't at this stage.
 

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I concede there's an element of gambleing or risk at what their doing but we're in a much better position in that role than what we were in 03 or 04

I'll go one step further and say we're in a much better position than in 01 as well, where our number option was a washed up half unwanted by anyone else.
 
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Pazza said:
i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.

Dykes did not want to be here, I mean the dickhead was taping Sharks games while playing for us. Witt- he will be playing at 5/8 for the Scum and not at halfback which says alot. And the same goes for leulaui he is not what Parra need at the moment. What Parra need is some direction similar to what Taylor did in 01. Taylor was old but he took us to the GF on his old Legs. Just imagine someone with Taylors skills but younger, thats what we need.
 

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fish eel said:
I concede there's an element of gambleing or risk at what their doing but we're in a much better position in that role than what we were in 03 or 04

I'll go one step further and say we're in a much better position than in 01 as well, where our number option was a washed up half unwanted by anyone else.

depending on how Marsh [an SOO rep] recovers and whether Peranara, Green and Smith discover their full potential. that would fairdinkum give Smithy selection nightmares.
 

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eelavation said:
Pazza said:
i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.

personally I don't think it's a problem with depth! in that area.

I concede there's an element of gambleing or risk at what their doing but we're in a much better position in that role than what we were in 03 or 04

I think that Going after leuleui is a waste of time. We got 3 very talented Halves at the club, the best team on paper since 2002. It is IMO the best time to bring a rookie into the halves. We got a very experianced and creative Hooking combination which will take alot of pressure off the youngster, a real 5/8 (not wagon) and a tough hard working pack of forwards with good attacking players in the backline. We didn't have any of this last season.
 

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Jake the snake said:
Pazza said:
i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.

Dykes did not want to be here, I mean the dickhead was taping Sharks games while playing for us. Witt- he will be playing at 5/8 for the Scum and not at halfback which says alot. And the same goes for leulaui he is not what Parra need at the moment. What Parra need is some direction similar to what Taylor did in 01. Taylor was old but he took us to the GF on his old Legs. Just imagine someone with Taylors skills but younger, thats what we need.

Dykes: Even if he didn't want to be here, he still made line breaks and try assists. Leuleui had no line breaks or try assists for the 2004 season.

Witt: He is a more skillful version of Leuleui, the problem with both of them is they don't get involved enough.

Parramatta do need a leader in the halfback position, hopefully we can Stick with Smith in the halfback role and let Green and Peneara battle it out for the 5/8 position.
 

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Pazza said:
eelavation said:
Pazza said:
i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.

personally I don't think it's a problem with depth! in that area.

I concede there's an element of gambleing or risk at what their doing but we're in a much better position in that role than what we were in 03 or 04

I think that Going after leuleui is a waste of time. We got 3 very talented Halves at the club, the best team on paper since 2002. It is IMO the best time to bring a rookie into the halves. We got a very experianced and creative Hooking combination which will take alot of pressure off the youngster, a real 5/8 (not wagon) and a tough hard working pack of forwards with good attacking players in the backline. We didn't have any of this last season.

I agree with you!...but it appears that Smith sees something in this bloke that we don't and as I said previously the more competion we have for that spot the better we will be.

and let's face it he's been playing against the 2 best teams in the world over the last month which would only benefit the kid even more. I saw him do some really nice things against GB before he went of injured and as "Iaefeta" said, all he needs is a bit of guidance and some tweeking and he can turn out be something special.

The irony is that the Warriors fans on this website aren't concerned about Leulaui being there or not it's the fact that they lost Marcus Peranara and he's the bloke I'm expecting something special from.
 

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Pazza said:
Jake the snake said:
Pazza said:
i guess the club should have thought about depth before releasing Dykes and Witt. I rate both these players higher than Leuleui. Leuleui lacks involvement and when he does get involved his touches arn't quality.

Dykes did not want to be here, I mean the dickhead was taping Sharks games while playing for us. Witt- he will be playing at 5/8 for the Scum and not at halfback which says alot. And the same goes for leulaui he is not what Parra need at the moment. What Parra need is some direction similar to what Taylor did in 01. Taylor was old but he took us to the GF on his old Legs. Just imagine someone with Taylors skills but younger, thats what we need.

Dykes: Even if he didn't want to be here, he still made line breaks and try assists. Leuleui had no line breaks or try assists for the 2004 season.

Witt: He is a more skillful version of Leuleui, the problem with both of them is they don't get involved enough.

Parramatta do need a leader in the halfback position, hopefully we can Stick with Smith in the halfback role and let Green and Peneara battle it out for the 5/8 position.

Leulaui hardley got a run this year!!
 

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