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The Mad Butcher is 80

Alan Johnson

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Oddly, the only other well known NZer that I've had a random encounter was John Key (this was just a few months ago). Without going into politics, it was a random encounter at Auckland Airport, we ended up in the same queue where they scan your bags before going into the duty free area. I was there just waiting for my bag to come through the carousel, and he come up next to me. Without hesitation I just said hello and we had a nice wee chat as we waited. Another I was up most impressed with
I don’t agree with his politics and i think he’s a smarmy, pony-tail pulling, runway-mincing, hot dog deep-throating prick with a shit son, but I can completely envision this scenario.

I saw him on Gone Fishin’ many years ago and after a bit of fishing the crew are having a few beers as the sun goes down. He’s a couple deep with a mild slur on and he’s got them completely enraptured. I hate to say it but very ‘alpha’ vibes. Totally at ease and confident.

Saw exactly the same thing in some candid documentary footage of George Bush Jr on Air Force One. The man was a jibbering, certifiable buffoon in the media, but behind the scenes he had obvious charisma.
 
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I don’t agree with his politics and i think he’s a smarmy, pony-tail pulling, runway-mincing, hot dog deep-throating prick with a shit son, but I can completely envision this scenario.

I saw him on Gone Fishin’ many years ago and after a bit of fishing the crew are having a few beers as the sun goes down. He’s a couple deep with a mild slur on and he’s got them completely enraptured. I hate to say it but very ‘alpha’ vibes. Totally at ease and confident.

Saw exactly the same thing in some candid documentary footage of George Bush Jr on Air Force One. The man was a jibbering, certifiable buffoon in the media, but behind the scenes he had obvious charisma.
John Key was charismatic as a politician / PM, no surprises he's like that away from the limelight. I didn't vote for him but I thought he was Nationals best PM.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Funnily enough I’ve heard the same about former Aussie PM Tony Abbott - I hated the prick as PM but apparently quite affable in person. Scott Morrison on the other hand strikes me as a “Scott no mates”. Albo apparently likes a beer or ten.
 

Blair

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Funnily enough I’ve heard the same about former Aussie PM Tony Abbott - I hated the prick as PM but apparently quite affable in person. Scott Morrison on the other hand strikes me as a “Scott no mates”. Albo apparently likes a beer or ten.
The mrs and me passed Tony in the Sydney Airport departures area last May. He knew we knew who he was. We all smiled, and moved on. Two non-Liberal voters could still share a pleasant moment with him.

We'd have just kept the conversation light though, if we'd stopped and talked. You know, general destinations, sport (he likes Manly, doesn't he? Some Shute Shield, etc), even weather.
 

Blair

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Don't get me started...

It was thrilling to see Bill and Hilary Clinton, in their prime, in Sydney in November '96 (this was just a week after a very intimate - don't take that the wrong way - meeting with Michael Jackson in Auckland. Two 'wow' encounters.

I shook Gough Whitlam's hand in the NSW Parliament in '99. I worked for Mike Moore in '93, thought Helen Clark was cool. That same year Paul Keating was in the NZ Parliament and I said 'how about those Bulldogs?' and he replied, 'no worries! But he was no league fan.

Just before he died I said a passing, 'hello, Mr Muldoon' to Rob in a stairwell at Elleslie Racecourse, on New Year's Day '92.

There's a photo of me and Bob Hawke, who was the ultimate crowd-pleaser.

All these politicians had good people skills. They had too.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Don't get me started...

It was thrilling to see Bill and Hilary Clinton, in their prime, in Sydney in November '96 (this was just a week after a very intimate - don't take that the wrong way - meeting with Michael Jackson in Auckland. Two 'wow' encounters.

I shook Gough Whitlam's hand in the NSW Parliament in '99. I worked for Mike Moore in '93, thought Helen Clark was cool. That same year Paul Keating was in the NZ Parliament and I said 'how about those Bulldogs?' and he replied, 'no worries! But he was no league fan.

Just before he died I said a passing, 'hello, Mr Muldoon' to Rob in a stairwell at Elleslie Racecourse, on New Year's Day '92.

There's a photo of me and Bob Hawke, who was the ultimate crowd-pleaser.

All these politicians had good people skills. They had too.
Yeah I think it’s generally the rule that pollies are personally pretty likeable, otherwise they can’t win support. Somebody like Morrison is an outlier.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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In the late 2000s I used to work in the Noel Leeming store in Newmarket and John Key came in 2 or 3 times while I was there. This would’ve been in 2007 and 2008 while he was National leader but before he was PM. He must’ve been a somewhat regular customer because he had a specific salesman he used to seek out. Anyway, on one particular occasion where he was doing something exciting Iike picking up a toaster, he pretty much came up to the counter and delivered a bit of a ‘vote for me’ speech to us salespeople , no doubt to the chagrin of all the other customers not getting served.

My impression of him then is that in theory that should’ve been overbearing and arrogant, but instead he somehow came off affable and likeable. Probably sums him up really.
 

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