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WireMan

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Not worried yet.

We got a lot of press over our shakey defence and we have tightened that up a bit.

Fergie needs to stop messing the team around though, get us some stability.

Deffo worth starting with Berba and another striker. We need a bit of flair upfront. Owen, Henandez, Marcheda etc. are all good forwards but they won't create chances.
 

Jason Maher

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For me the real key is finally getting our centre back combo, well, back. That fixes the defensive problems. We also need both Rooney and Berbatov firing to really challenge. And we need Chel$ki to stumble. That last may be the most difficult. A double against the pricks would help.
 

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United confirm significant losses

By ESPNsoccernet staff


October 8, 2010

Manchester United have confirmed their full-year operating profit stands at a record £100.8 million - but their overall losses are £83.64 million.

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Many United fans have been keen to oust the Glazer family

United became the first English club to generate over £100 million in operating profits in the results, believed to be down to the Glazer family's global marketing initiatives, but the owners have created a heavy debt burden.

Interest payments accounted for £40 million, while there was also a hefty one-off cost for the successful £504 million bond issue earlier this year.
The statement on the club's official website also pointed to the signings of Javier Hernandez, Chris Smalling and Bebe, as well as new contracts for several first-team players, and wages rose by 7% to £131.7 million.
The club's overall turnover has grown 2.9%, from £278.4 million to £286.4 million, while media revenues rose by £5.1 million to £104.8 million.

However, match-day revenue dropped 7.9% from £108.8 million to £100.2 million during the financial year, with United playing fewer games after suffering a quarter-final exit to Bayern Munich in the Champions League and a third-round FA Cup exit to Leeds United.
Perhaps the most significant factor in the results is that there is no mention of funds being taken out of the club by the owners to pay their £200 million-worth of PIK notes, which are now attracting interest at 16.25%.

The record operating profits, though, indicate that the club is still a hugely attractive proposition in terms of its global brand, and suggest there is little truth to the notion that companies are reluctant to be involved with the Glazers after repeated negative headlines.
United chief executive David Gill insisted there is no pressure to sell star players such as Wayne Rooney despite the club's big losses and described the accounts as "very good".
"We are not a club that needs to sell," Gill said. "We have money in the bank so there is zero pressure on that, no pressure at all to sell any star player whether it is Wayne Rooney or X,Y or Z. I can categorically say that.
"There was no desire at all from anyone at the club to sell Cristiano - he wanted to go and as a result we managed to extract a world record fee. The philosophy is to retain and attract the best players.
"We have £165 million in the bank but in some ways we would prefer to have £80 million in the bank and Ronaldo on the pitch.''

Gill said part of the losses related to one-off payments after bank loans were turned into a bond, totalling £47 million. He added that if 'goodwill' losses - an accounting practice relating to the original takeover - of £35.2 million, and foreign exchange losses of £19 million (which should be recovered next year) and depreciation are ignored, United would have an actual profit of about £25 million.

"There are very good results for the club with records here, there and everywhere but they are complicated with non-cash items and exceptional one-off hits," Gill said.
Fans' group have raised concerns that there could be parallels with the Liverpool crisis, where the holding company may be forced into administration next week over unpaid debts following a leveraged takeover, and the Glazer ownership of United. Gill however insisted that was not the case.

"I can't speak for any other club but the United fans should not be concerned, we have a long-term financing structure in place, excellent revenues that are growing, we are controlling our costs - total wages are 46% of turnover - and we can afford the interest on our long-term finance.
"In our opinion if something changed in the ownership this club will survive and continue - it is covering the financing cost more than adequately. We still have cash to invest in players and to give good contracts to players and we are comfortable with the business model.
"They [the Glazers] have retained that money in the bank and it's there for Sir Alex if he needs it for players, and for investing in the training ground and the stadium.''

United are confident that they will meet UEFA's financial fair play rules despite the figures because not all the paper losses - such as depreciation - are included by UEFA when they calculate whether clubs are only spending what they earn.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=830735&sec=england&cc=3436

Good news and bad news I guess. United making good money but those interest payments are a bitch eh?
 

Ridders

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Lol United. Up 2-0 nil and looking comfortable at home against West Brom.

In the blink of an eye it's 2-2.

Pearler from VDS for West Brom's 2nd.
 
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Berba and Nani look pretty good. The rest..eh.

United's midfield looks sh*t. West Brom have at times been ripping them apart through the middle in the second half.
 
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Ridders

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And it ends 2-2.

Poor Rooney. Looks nothing like the player he was last season. Couldn't get into the game.
 
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Wayne Rooney set to quit Manchester United following issues with Alex Ferguson

Manchester United star Wayne Rooney is set to quit the club because of limited match time under manager Sir Alex Ferguson, according to media reports.

Rooney is yet to make a public statement, but he now feels that his relationship with Ferguson has suffered irreparable damage, reports The Guardian.
Ferguson's latest snub of Rooney fuelled fresh speculation the Manchester United superstar could be heading for the Old Trafford exit, despite the 24-year-old still having more than a year to run onhis current contract.

Ferguson left Rooney on the bench for the clash with West Bromwich Albion, where the Red Devils squandered a two-goal lead to settle for a 2-2 draw.

Ferguson did not comment about the decision to omit Rooney, a move that followed speculation of a rift after the striker earlier contradicted the United boss's claims he was injured by stating he was fully fit.

It came after an earlier decision to drop Rooney for his return to Everton in September, which followed revelations about the 24-year-old England international's private life.

Rooney made headliens after poor performances and injury at the 2010 World Cup, as well as an alleged relationship with a prostitute, Jennifer Thompson

Since then Rooney has been in and out of the United starting line-up and looking a pale imitation of the potent attacking force who was crowned the 2010 Footballer of the Year.

Rooney moved to Manchester United in 2004 after making his professional debut with Everton as an 18-year-old in 2004.
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The Guardian said it so it must be true but if it were to happen who would be an ideal replacement, Karim Benzema?
 

WireMan

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The talk is either him going to City or Madrid with Benzema coming the other way.

As long as any money recovered goes into the team then no problems from me. It is a bit Beckham esq at the mo. We replaced him with Ronaldo so i'm not worried.

Then again its all talk, the papers are upset cause Fergie won't talk to them because they make stuff up. Given the amount of quotes in the story (none) then they could be at it again.

Also of course his contract is due for renewal and he apparently wants £200k a week.

He may be in danger of talking his way out of OT which would be a shame, he can ask Owen about his career when he did the same thing at Liverpool.
 

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If he went now who'd replace him...my money would be on either Robbo or Mike Phelan

Bryan Robson???

I reckon David Moyes is in with a shout, or give it to Cantona or Roy Keane, someone who bleed Manchester United.
 

WireMan

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The Special One at the end of the season

Until then give Solskjaer the job

Wrong way round.

The special one replaces Fergie, then Ole replaces him.



On Rooney, it is getting clearer he wants money. All the stories seem to be plants by his Agent.

He is playing a dangerous game. One which he will lose if he isn't careful.
 

WireMan

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It's official Rooney wants to leave..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9104392.stm

Here's hoping they get a suitable replacement (hopefully not the likes of Hugo Rodallega etc)

Yup, that is the only bit of concern for me. We need to spend the money on the team, don't know who, but i can think of a few names. I'm not sure we need a striker though, Berba is good and with Owen, Henandez, Marcheda we have enough up front. Its midfield we have the issues.

I'd bring back Cleaverly in Jan, when we sell Rooney. Stick him on the wing and tell him he has a few months to show he has enough about him to suceed. Him on one side and Nani on the other, a good solid midfield and Berba and Henandez up front look alright to me.

Take the Rooney money and use it to replace Scholes, Van de Sar and maybe get another Mid also.

My worry for Rooney is that he turns into another Gazza.
 

Ridders

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What's the deal with United? Big players don't seem to want to stay there.

Wtf changed? Thought Rooney would be at United for the rest of his career.

Isn't his contract expiring at the end of next season? That would hurt his transfer value.
 
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