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The Marshall delemma

37916319

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OK, but how many games in a season? His consistency is sh*t at present. Immaterial of him being able to make an good game at 1/2 (I say only occassionally but thats my opinion) do you and Tiger05 say he is a better 1/2 than 5/8? Most people I think would say 5/8. Why try to change that? In my opinion again, he is a better 5/8 than 1/2 so for f### sake play him at 5/8.

Someone really needs to create a sarcasm font.
 

Blackdiamond

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"... because he wrote it in Sarcasticia! If he had enjoyed himself he would have used Good Times Roman". Arj Barker
 

Tiger05

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I don't see Benji at 7 being the problem. He has basically played there the last 3 years.

The problem is that he reverted back to inconsistency throughout his game this year. To add to that we had very little to zero penetration in our outside backs.

I'm happy for him to stay at 7 and I don't think it is a big issue. I also have no problems with him being at 6. We need him running it more and getting rid of the crap plays in his game. He will score us points.

I think the real issue is can he play consistent footy and lead us into the finals and even win us a comp. This is under the assumption he has the support around him for us to be a top 2-3 team in the comp. We need to have a quality squad and for Benji and Robbie to execute perfectly or pretty close to it.
 

37916319

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Guys just to be clear, my "2 cracker games" post was entirely sarcastic, I never have nor will supported Benji at 7. Would hate for Tiger 05 to think I agree with him.
 

BrotherJim05

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While Benji underperformed at 7 he didn't completely suck ass at it. The real issue was that he didn't have a solid halves partner. How the hell was he supposed to come up with some sort of combo when he had 6 different halves partners over the season?

WHAT TEAM HAVE EVER HAD 6 GODAMN HALVES COMBINATIONS IN A YEAR!
 

Tigers Tale

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I have been saying for years (occasionally on here too) Marshall is like Brett Kenny, a brilliant 5/8 that needed a half back that was going to position him (a la Sterling). I can't remember Kenny ever trying to control a game as Marshall does now. Kenny knew his limitations and played to them brilliantly. Marshall should be in this team for his freakish ability to run the ball, not try and control the game from half.

I believe the Tigers (coaches etc) have restricted this guys ability to grow and that is why we are talking about him now. This is all Sheens fault. Sure, Marshall may have wanted to take on a more senior role but he is not the type of player that Thurston or Cronk is, he never will be. He needs to be set up and used as a running 5/8.

The moral to my rant....buy a f@#$ing half back!!!!
 
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I have been saying for years (occasionally on here too) Marshall is like Brett Kenny, a brilliant 5/8 that needed a half back that was going to position him (a la Sterling). I can't remember Kenny ever trying to control a game as Marshall does now. Kenny knew his limitations and played to them brilliantly. Marshall should be in this team for his freakish ability to run the ball, not try and control the game from half.

I believe the Tigers (coaches etc) have restricted this guys ability to grow and that is why we are talking about him now. This is all Sheens fault. Sure, Marshall may have wanted to take on a more senior role but he is not the type of player that Thurston or Cronk is, he never will be. He needs to be set up and used as a running 5/8.

The moral to my rant....buy a f@#$ing half back!!!!
Maybe you are right. Maybe expecting him to become a leader is asking too much. Maybe he just doesn't have those abilities, particularly in the current set up, and needs to be used as a role player.

Interesting times ahead with Potter.
Miller (and therefore Marshall) could be the biggest beneficiary of the coaching change.
 
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What also did not help Benji at half back was the fact our backline was so slow,Canberra exploited this weakness in round 4,yet for some reason Sheens failed to act and fix the problem which lasted the entire season.
 

Tiger05

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What also did not help Benji at half back was the fact our backline was so slow,Canberra exploited this weakness in round 4,yet for some reason Sheens failed to act and fix the problem which lasted the entire season.

I think that this is one of the key problems.
 

CrazyTiger

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I have been saying for years (occasionally on here too) Marshall is like Brett Kenny, a brilliant 5/8 that needed a half back that was going to position him (a la Sterling). I can't remember Kenny ever trying to control a game as Marshall does now. Kenny knew his limitations and played to them brilliantly. Marshall should be in this team for his freakish ability to run the ball, not try and control the game from half.

I believe the Tigers (coaches etc) have restricted this guys ability to grow and that is why we are talking about him now. This is all Sheens fault. Sure, Marshall may have wanted to take on a more senior role but he is not the type of player that Thurston or Cronk is, he never will be. He needs to be set up and used as a running 5/8.

The moral to my rant....buy a f@#$ing half back!!!!

I think you mean they have given him too much room to grow by trying to make himself
into something he can't be. They just haven't been able to find a new half back (woman
beater aside).
 

Matchball

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Wtf is this shit?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...r-stint-in-japan/story-e6frexnr-1226516963667

BENJI Marshall's manager Martin Tauber has dropped a bombshell by declaring he will seek an immediate release from Marshall's contract so he can pursue opportunities in Japanese rugby.Tauber revealed yesterday that he is waiting for the star to return home from pre-season camp with the Wests Tigers before he approaches chief executive Stephen Humphreys about securing a release.Marshall is contracted until the end of 2015 but Tauber, in the wake of the NRL accepting Sonny Bill Williams' return to the game, is keen to explore Marshall's opportunities to earn additional income in the rival code.Tauber first tried to have Marshall playing summers in Japan when he came off contract in 2009 but then NRL chief executive David Gallop immediately rejected it.However Tauber, like several chief executives and player managers contacted yesterday, believes the NRL's registration of Williams has set a precedent other players can pursue, paving the way for a meeting with Humphreys."It is probably something I will raise with the chief executive in the next couple of days, when they come back from their exhaustive camp,'' Tauber said."It's a little bit different this time because Benji is contracted until 2015 so we have to get a release."That's the difficulty. But I want a meeting to say let's talk about it."It's an opportunity for them to earn additional income that would set themselves up financially for the long term.''

BENJI

Source:*The Daily TelegraphWhile the NRL has previously rejected any notion of players moonlighting in rival codes, there is growing belief that future moves to stop players jumping codes in the off-season, given the Williams precedent, might now be a restraint of trade.Leading player manager George Mimis said managers would not be doing their jobs if they did not now consider off-season stints in Japan to top up earnings for their marquee players."It's back on the agenda,'' Mimis said."The cornerstone to representing talent adequately and suitably, one of the touchpoints, is maximising commercial opportunities."It's not the be all and end all, but you would be naive not to think every opportunity is not going to be explored.''Japanese rugby is an enormous financial windfall for players.Clubs pay the players' income tax, meaning all money negotiated is essentially tax free, as well as providing all other major expenses such as rent, car and business-class airfares.Humphreys last night did not want to comment on Tauber's plans, but spoke earlier about the new possibilities raised by the Williams precedent."It does establish possibilities that, I would imagine, some players and managers would want to explore,'' Humphreys said.Tauber said Japan's interest in Marshall was as recent as the start of last year."I did have some pre-emptive talks about 18 months ago and they said they would have enormous interest if he ever comes off contract,'' Tauber said.Another manager, Wayne Beavis, said the precedent had created new opportunities."It's something worth exploring, whether it has got legs is another matter,'' Beavis said."It's certainly achievable but it's basically impractical given everything you've got to go through.''Start of sidebar.*Skip to end of sidebar.Will this mean sayonara, Benji?
 

madunit

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Benji is f**king stupid for considering this, 2 more forwards on the field, bigger props, less broken field play & a big focus on effective kicking and organising. All of these work against his greatest assets.

Theres a reason why you never see people with freakish running skills etc in union, the game isn't suited to ut.

He'll be a failure & will run a big chance of earningvanother shoulder reco from having fat f**kers running at him for half the game
 
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Can' believe I'm on here in 'the off season':shock:

A few things came to mind immediately:

Benji:
So this has been on the drawing board for how long now?
Does he want to break the contract completely or is he asking for permission to just go for the summer?
The opportunity to earn some extra dollars, long term, wouldn't he better to consolidate his efforts at Nine so that he has a career post RL?

The Game:
The size of those back rowers running at him !
Playing in what position?
He should do OK in Japan as they do not have the same structure as they do in Super 15 or whatever it is these days.

Tigers:
Is Moltzen having Japanese lessons?
Anasta IMO would be a better 'teacher' for Miller at 7 if playing 5/8.
 

BrotherJim05

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Wtf. So Benji is going to skip the pre-season training with the Tigers?

Maybe he is still bitter over Ryan and Heino leaving and wants out. If he is then he is the biggest hypocrite in RL BUT I'm not going to believe this untill I see it.

Surely Benji will stay on untill the end of 2015, if not, at least we have others who can play 5/8. Miller and Anasta would be a good combo.

If Tigers did release him, our sponsors are going to shit themselves. Our entire marketing scheme revolved around Beu and Benji lol.
 

Magpies Forever

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No way should he be released to play RU in the off season.

a/ we have a new coach and will be instituting new methods and plays. Benji must be there for pre-season training and media events.

b/ what guarantee si there that RU will not use footage and exposure of Benji playing to lure more RL players away.

c/ maybe player contracts have to be more specific about off season responsibilities to club and the code. Dont know what they have now.

Benji is in a high earning RL star category and he cant play the poor me card. The extra $$$ means extra resposnibiilty to the game and the club. If he doesnt like it he can walk out but his name will be dirt and he should never ever play RL again. All this because they allow SBW back in the fold again (temporarily apparently). Idiocy and madness. Player managers are parasites on the code.
 

Matchball

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Just another selfish prick.
Maybe its best to let him go and we replace him entirely.

Im done with the drama that surrounds this goose at every turn.
If NRL doesnt allow it, it will be sook time.
 

b.bear

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i say if this is what he is thinking about at the moment then just cut him loose because he will be of no use to us ,with his japanese lessons and shopping how will he have enough time for the tigers what an A'hole.

Good on ya' benj take the easy money
 

macnaz

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It just sounds to me he cannot play yawnion in the off season while under contract. If we released him and just sign him prior to future season starts all will be good..BUT if he has a change of heart or some other club offers more we are screwd and have no legal right to his services what so ever. I say the club has to say no.
 

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