The Mighty bands that have fallen....but just wont let go!

[salivor]

OVP just likes to ramble.

Back to the actual thread. A couple to throw into the mix:
Foo Fighters - well maybe not exactly mighty but they're last couple of albums have given bland a whole new meaning.
Radiohead - Love Pablo Honey through to their masterpiece OK Computer but they've just got weird and painful to the ear from Kid A onwards.

 

[Raiders Plight]

Pearl Jam haven't really fallen, they've just faded away. Their last 4-5 albums are all the same. Live & Oasis have fallen but both bands only ever had 1 good album in them.

 

[Red Bear]

Red Hot Chili Peppers, definately.

 

[Alex28]

Most of you have no idea.

How can you say that Pearl Jam's last 5 albums sound the same? No Code sounds nothing like any of their work. Yield is nothing like anything else they have done. Each album is pretty different from the last.

Radiohead? Are you serious? Kid A IS their masterpiece!

Just because the media doesn't broadcast a bands arrival does not mean they have disappeared into obscurity. You may have noted that the most hyped band in the world and the most hyped cancer patient in the world also arrived in the country this week. 50,000 people at 2 shows is nothing to be sneezed at...

Incidently, "Pearl Jam" debuted at Number 2 this year and "Hail To The Thief" debuted at Number 1 a few years ago. Thats a big heap of obscurity right there!

I'll give you a tip - just because you don't listen to them does not mean they have "fallen".

 

[NPK]

Incidently, "Pearl Jam" debuted at Number 2 this year and "Hail To The Thief" debuted at Number 1 a few years ago. Thats a big heap of obscurity right there!

That's probably on reputation. Doesn't necessarily mean it's the same quality as their work 10 years ago. (I haven't heard those albums by the way)

 

[Alex28]

The subject is "Bands That Have Fallen" - clearly a band who has had 5 number 1 albums and 2 number 2's on it's first week of release is a band that has not "fallen" anywhere. They "probably" are still quite popular.

Let me guess - you liked Ten and Versus too but Vitalogy and No Code was a tad too complex (i.e. - not generic) for you?

 

[nöyd]

It's alright to say this band has lost it's way or that band will never be as good as they once were but:

Someone will always buy tickets to their shows and someone will always buy their new album, more power to 'em I say.

 

[Raiders Plight]

The subject is "Bands That Have Fallen" - clearly a band who has had 5 number 1 albums and 2 number 2's on it's first week of release is a band that has not "fallen" anywhere. They "probably" are still quite popular.

Let me guess - you liked Ten and Versus too but Vitalogy and No Code was a tad too complex (i.e. - not generic) for you?

i think this thread is about bands who's music quality has fallen. U2's last 2 albums sold a trillion copies but doesn't mean they are as good as they were in 1987.

I don't think pearl jam have fallen, they just peaked with their first album IMO, then plateaud. they are still better than the majority of music around.

 

[Alex28]

I think there are many differing views in what "fallen" means.

If Pearl Jam made 8 "Tens" I'd have been bored of them after the second one. Ten is a pretty generic album - I'm thankful for the album because it eventually gave them the freedom to make what they wanted to make.

Music evolves. Artists evolve. Fans evolve. Just because a fan doesn't like their new stuff does not mean that the band is any better or any worse.

 

[CC_Eagle]

OVP just likes to ramble.


Radiohead - Love Pablo Honey through to their masterpiece OK Computer but they've just got weird and painful to the ear from Kid A onwards.

Give up before you embarass yourself further.

Kid A is pure genius....Pablo Honey is dogsh*t!

 

[HevyDevy]

I think there are many differing views in what "fallen" means.

If Pearl Jam made 8 "Tens" I'd have been bored of them after the second one. Ten is a pretty generic album - I'm thankful for the album because it eventually gave them the freedom to make what they wanted to make.

Music evolves. Artists evolve. Fans evolve. Just because a fan doesn't like their new stuff does not mean that the band is any better or any worse.

So Metallica are still as good as they once were?

 

[Alex28]

I'm the wrong guy to ask about Metallica - I don't own anything of theirs before the Black Album and am a casual listener of theirs at best...

However if you ask a hard core Metallica fan they would say they had lost their way WITH the Black Album...so where would you define their "fallen" status? With their most successful album sales wise?

 

[CliffyIsGod]

Give up before you embarass yourself further.

Kid A is pure genius....Pablo Honey is dogsh*t!

That's what I was thinking, who likes Pablo Honey?

 

[HevyDevy]

I'm the wrong guy to ask about Metallica - I don't own anything of theirs before the Black Album and am a casual listener of theirs at best...

However if you ask a hard core Metallica fan they would say they had lost their way WITH the Black Album...so where would you define their "fallen" status? With their most successful album sales wise?

Well the Black album was the beginning of the end "in hindsight" albeit still a very good album.

At the time I think it was apparent it was slightly more commercial than previous efforts but nobody expected just how far they would fall after that.

But I don't believe we can judge this thread by sales. Sales have little to do with anything other than the desire of a record company to sell that particular album. It certainly doesn't represent the quality of the "artist" - not these days anyway.

 

[Mong]

I'm the wrong guy to ask about Metallica - I don't own anything of theirs before the Black Album and am a casual listener of theirs at best...

However if you ask a hard core Metallica fan they would say they had lost their way WITH the Black Album...so where would you define their "fallen" status? With their most successful album sales wise?

The old time Metallica fans tend to get p*ssed off with the direction the band has gone. I appreciate both sides, the early stuff kicks ar*e but i also really appreciate what is on the black album and the loads.. St anger has it's moment but the sound is pretty sh*tty, i doubt we will see that again from them.

I don't think for a second they have "fallen" or that cliff would be turning in his grave.. Really whoever carries on with that sh*te is an idiot in my books. They always did what they felt like, now they still do, if you don't like it and appreciate it don't listen but there are many who do.

 

[Simo]

That's what I was thinking, who likes Pablo Honey?

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Funny the radiohead people bag me for this but I think Pablo Honey is a million times better than OK computer.....I was so dissapointed after I bought that album yet everyone else lloved it!

 

[Simo]

50,000 people at 2 shows is nothing to be sneezed at...

Where did they play again?? Superdome? I thought that held 15,000? Eitherway its still good, im not knocking that but how much does it hold? (Or acer arena or whatever its called now)

 

[Alex28]

My bad - Pearl Jam was 20,000 per night. Make that 40,000 over 2 nights. It's better than the last time around with 2 nights at the Entertainment Centre at 14,000 per night.

 

[Simo]

Impressive, I had no idea that place held so much.
Whilst on the subject, anyone know what the horden holds? Ive been a couple of times and it is tiny but yet the sound and view is the best ive been to.

 

[Alex28]

I rough guide:

Metro - 1,000 people
Enmore Theatre - 1,400 people
Hordern Pavillion - 5,000 people
Entertainment Centre - 14,000
Superdome - 21,000

The old Hordern was the go - awesome sound. The best place to see a band at the moment is still The Metro (especially now that they are paying their bills...).