The Origin Black Mail - Is it even legal?

[mickey22]

Scubby its easy to whinge about players that are either born in Australia or have moved to Australia for a better life as a youngster and have been developed in Rugby League that they would probably not been if they stayed in their Country of Origin.

Why do you think a player like Hayne or Milford should not represent the Country they were born in and were developed in?

Mead moved to Australia as a kid, he was brought into the game through the Australian development system, if he was still in PNG he would have never played the game, at what point do you immigrate to a Country and become a citizen and then be told by English fans they are wrong and should play for PNG?

How many English players that are any good and could be in the England team choose to play for a "heritage team" and lock into that team?

When England gets France as a force you can whine, a Country a stones throw away that gets worse and worse at Test level.

How many top shelf players does England born players supply to "second tier Nations"

Answer is NOT MANY IF ANY.

Without Australia providing Heritage players and dual national player to the World Cup it would be a none event.

Half of the teams were either Aussies or a few Kiwis.
Wake up Mate

 

[hutch]

Some people also seem to forget how many players Australia provide to all rugby league nations. It is not all one way traffic, most Aussies with dual nationality don't play for Australia.

 

[Scubby]

Scubby its easy to whinge about players that are either born in Australia or have moved to Australia for a better life as a youngster and have been developed in Rugby League that they would probably not been if they stayed in their Country of Origin.

Why do you think a player like Hayne or Milford should not represent the Country they were born in and were developed in?

How many English players that are any good and could be in the England team choose to play for a "heritage team" and lock into that team?

The thing is that, under this system, we will never know what country Utae, Milford, Hayne, Mead, McManus would prefer to play for because they are having to duck and dive all the time to keep their origin hopes alive. They have agents, Mal Menninga, Ricky Stuart, Gus Gould et al in their ears saying that they are a shoe in for origin - just sign this piece of paper.

I would put money on that Milford wanted to play for Samoa this week but he also wants to play in SOO games and the money that comes with those games.

Again, I re-iterate, tell me where Milford, Uate, Mead etc. have said they have grown up wanting to play for the Kangaroos? You could find quite a few that would say they have been dreaming about pulling on a NSW or Qld jersey. There was no reason for Milford not to play for Samoa this week.

Origin is all that Australia seems to care about and it seems to be a policy of nab the best 34 players to play in this at all costs. It will be the same suspects who then moan when Australia whack Samoa or Fiji by 50 in the 4N.

 

[Son of Minto]

Mead moved to Australia as a kid, he was brought into the game through the Australian development system, if he was still in PNG he would have never played the game

He wouldve never played the game in PNG? :roll: Its f**king Papua New Guinea, not Tunisia.

 

[roughyedspud]

Scubby its easy to whinge about players that are either born in Australia or have moved to Australia for a better life as a youngster and have been developed in Rugby League that they would probably not been if they stayed in their Country of Origin.

Why do you think a player like Hayne or Milford should not represent the Country they were born in and were developed in?

Mead moved to Australia as a kid, he was brought into the game through the Australian development system, if he was still in PNG he would have never played the game, at what point do you immigrate to a Country and become a citizen and then be told by English fans they are wrong and should play for PNG?

How many English players that are any good and could be in the England team choose to play for a "heritage team" and lock into that team?

When England gets France as a force you can whine, a Country a stones throw away that gets worse and worse at Test level.

How many top shelf players does England born players supply to "second tier Nations"

Answer is NOT MANY IF ANY.

Without Australia providing Heritage players and dual national player to the World Cup it would be a none event.

Half of the teams were either Aussies or a few Kiwis.
Wake up Mate

after australia england provided the 2nd most dipshit

 

[WellsNZ]

And how does Toni Carroll - play for Queensland, play for New Zealand, play for Queensland, play for Australia - fit into this water tight eligibility framework then?

Uh nowadays that wouldn't happen because they took steps to stop things like that happening?

You do realise that they changed the eligibility criteria in 2012 right?

 

[Scubby]

Uh nowadays that wouldn't happen because they took steps to stop things like that happening?

You do realise that they changed the eligibility criteria in 2012 right?

Yes I do. They probably suit both states at the moment - until one is struggling to find a scrum half or something and they will just bend them again.

 

[mickey22]

after australia england provided the 2nd most dipshit

Any good ones of note?
Brough...................

Nice to see you get personal

England cant even fill their own team with quality, they have to import Kiwis and players that have spent most of their life in Australia quite often.

 

[roughyedspud]

yawn...is that the best you got little boy..

 

[mickey22]

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