THE RED V NOSTALGIA THREAD

[baggygreen man]

It's silly to say St George were not premiers in 2010.

St George/Illawarra were the premiers, not a stand alone St George. The mighty Saints did not win a premiership after 1979.

 

[baggygreen man]

Even tho the Saints were not carrying home the silverware often back in the pre merger years we were not also rans either. We played for the trophy and came out second best in 1971, 1975, 1985, 1992, 1993, 1996.
We also took out the Minor Premiership in 1979, 1985 and the Club Championship in 1971, 1984, 1985.

 

[Willow]

St George/Illawarra were the premiers, not a stand alone St George. The mighty Saints did not win a premiership after 1979.

St George haven't ceased to exist.

I'll say it again: 2010 was St George's 16th premiership, for Illawarra it was the first. That's how both clubs celebrated it.

I didn't say it was a standalone premiership in 2010. I trust you're not putting your words into the mouths of others.

 

[baggygreen man]

I didn't say it was a standalone premiership in 2010.

No I did as having Illawarra attached to our name means to me we are no longer a stand alone club. If as you say were are still seen by the powers to be as St George then I accept that and am pleased.

 

[blue bags]

Even tho the Saints were not carrying home the silverware often back in the pre merger years we were not also rans either. We played for the trophy and came out second best in 1971, 1975, 1985, 1992, 1993, 1996.
We also took out the Minor Premiership in 1979, 1985 and the Club Championship in 1971, 1984, 1985.

From what I believe. Is the Dragons have qualified for 29 grand finals in their history
A couple of grand finals were not played in the very early years of the competition. Due to minor premiers declared winner's of the competition

 

[Old Timer]

Even tho the Saints were not carrying home the silverware often back in the pre merger years we were not also rans either. We played for the trophy and came out second best in 1971, 1975, 1985, 1992, 1993, 1996.
We also took out the Minor Premiership in 1979, 1985 and the Club Championship in 1971, 1984, 1985.

Minor premiers in 1967 as well

 

[Willow]

Our Club Championships before the NRL came along...
1940 1942 1946 1949 1951 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1971 1984 1985
NSWRL / ARL
Club Championships TOTAL = 18
In 1930, the NSWRL introduced a club championship...
St George have won the most club championships...
More records: https://jubileeavenue.com/history/records.php

From the same link:
27 Grand Final appearances (and yep, people often forget that there were 2 grand final appearances in 1977):
NSWRL / ARL / NRL
First Grade Grand Finals appearances TOTAL = 27
1930 1942 1946 1949 1953 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1971 1975 1977 1977replay 1979 1985 1992 1993 1996 1999 2010
NB: St George also contested the following 'Finals' (ie non grand final competitions):
1927 1933 1937
To win an Australian Rugby League Grand Final is widely regarded as the greatest prize of all.... The Dragons, with 27 grand final appearances are twice that of their nearest rivals...

NSWRL / ARL / NRL
First Grade Minor Premiers
TOTAL = 18
1928* 1946 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961* 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1979 1985 2009 2010
*Equal minor premiers

 

[baggygreen man]

On May 11, 1935, 21 years before the Dragons world record run, they first made history when they annihilated newcomers Canterbury 91–6 at Earl Park, statistically the biggest win in premiership history. Canterbury led 4–0 after 20 minutes and at half-time the score was 23–6. However, the Saints went beserk in the second scoring 14 tries and 68 points, the most scored in one half of any match.
Winger Les Griffin scored 36 points (two tries, 15 goals), still a Dragons record for most points in a first-grade match. (Red V Timeline)

 

[56to66]

St George had the biggest supporter base at one point, many have passed on, the lack of success has contributed a fall from grace, I started following them in 1977, there was so much hype, there was so much admiration from all, including media back then, everyone loved supporting the Red V they were winners, my older neighbours would tell me how great it was watching all legends of the 50's and 60's, you had Johny Raper, Reg Gasnier, Ian Walsh, Norm Proven and co just doing it.
Today it seems the complete opposite, no one seems to care, the Red V is just there making up the numbers these days, like an old rusty GTS Monaro with a clapped out engine.
I would be interested to get some feedback from fellow St George supporters, if let's say we don't win another premiership in our lifetime, is it really worth the time we put into following the game at all?

 

[redv13]

St George had the biggest supporter base at one point, many have passed on, the lack of success has contributed a fall from grace, I started following them in 1977, there was so much hype, there was so much admiration from all, including media back then, everyone loved supporting the Red V they were winners, my older neighbours would tell me how great it was watching all legends of the 50's and 60's, you had Johny Raper, Reg Gasnier, Ian Walsh, Norm Proven and co just doing it.
Today it seems the complete opposite, no one seems to care, the Red V is just there making up the numbers these days, like an old rusty GTS Monaro with a clapped out engine.
I would be interested to get some feedback from fellow St George supporters, if let's say we don't win another premiership in our lifetime, is it really worth the time we put into following the game at all?

You follow the team through thick and thin mate. It’s called being a true supporter

 

[Dragon David]

You follow the team through thick and thin mate. It’s called being a true supporter

Exactly redv13. Never, ever give up. Just got to believe that we will become a success story in the not too distant future. Keep following this club and support them.

 

[Slippery Morris]

Unfortunately due to the NRL St George can no longer add to their tally and any future accomplishments now go under St George Illawarra.

The NRL really don't want a bar of Saints history to be included with St George Illawarra and eventually wipe any existence of this great club. As a kid I always hoped St George would overtake Souths for most premierships but that won't happen and St George's 'premiership win tally will eventually be overtaken by the Sydney Roosters or Eastern Suburbs because that team represents the same are but the Saints don't.

Whilst Melbourne can show off their 5 premierships won under Bellamay of which 2 were taken off them for cheating but are still celebrated and treated like an achievement under supercoach.

 

[56to66]

At the end of the Day St George have won the Most consecutive Premierships in Row, no one can take that away from Rugby League history, only moronic people will say everything under the sun to diminish this achievement, salary cap, modern game, bluh bluh, however there are a number of aspects of the game, they weren't privileged to have, 1.the concussion protection rule and 2 the overpaid salaries.
St George is a merge entity that still carries the history and DNA, as a Red V supporter I have experienced 3 Premierships 1977,1979 and 2010, that is still a lot more than let's say Scumulla or a Illawarra supporters.

 

[56to66]

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We are very similar.

 

[Trifili13]

And I follow both teams.

 

[Nutz]

Guys, I couldn't find the Vale thread. Can someone help me. I want to catch up on who's departed and pay my respects.

 

[Victoire]

With Damien Cook and Lachy Ilias coming on board, joining former Rabbitohs Su’a, Sele and Corey Allan, I thought I’d categorise all our signings (the ones I remember as far back as around the late 80s) who have played for Souths at some point prior to joining us. Very important pointless off-season type gear.


God tier

Jaydn Su’a. Phil Blake.


Top tier

Cameron McInnes. Nick Zisti. Rod Maybon.


Mid tier

Hame Sele (so far). Tautau Moga. Michael Greenfield. Stuart Webb. Willie Manu. Shane Marteene. Willie Peters. Lee Hookey. Wes Patten. Mark Ellison.


Shit tier

Bronko Djura. Ben Rogers. Dylan Farrell. Issac Luke. Jack Gosiewski. Luke McDougall. Zane Musgrove. George Burgess. Mark Lyons.

 

[Dragon David]

With Damien Cook and Lachy Ilias coming on board, joining former Rabbitohs Su’a, Sele and Corey Allan, I thought I’d categorise all our signings (the ones I remember as far back as around the late 80s) who have played for Souths at some point prior to joining us. Very important pointless off-season type gear.


God tier

Jaydn Su’a. Phil Blake.


Top tier

Cameron McInnes. Nick Zisti. Rod Maybon.


Mid tier

Hame Sele (so far). Tautau Moga. Michael Greenfield. Stuart Webb. Willie Manu. Shane Marteene. Willie Peters. Lee Hookey. Wes Patten. Mark Ellison.


Shit tier

Bronko Djura. Ben Rogers. Dylan Farrell. Issac Luke. Jack Gosiewski. Luke McDougall. Zane Musgrove. George Burgess. Mark Lyons.

Not only was Luke McDougall a shit tier player, he was also a shit rent payer. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Jubilee]

George Burgess. In a class of his own as wasted $, but he was part of that pattern we had of buying crappy over-the-hill props: George Rose; James Graham; Aaron Woods.

Maybe once upon a time maybe it was different, but out of all the positions in the modern game, age and wear and tear hits props hardest, I think.

This is why "missing out" on RGC at 32 y.o.didn't bother me and Klemmer at 30 y.o. is not attractive either. Nowadays prop has become a younger man's game.