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Hopoate getting cold feet about Eels
Date
September 1, 2013

Daniel Lane



EXCLUSIVE

Devout Mormon William Hopoate
Dedicated: William Hopoate in his role as a Mormon. Photo: Harrison Saragossi
As Ricky Stuart weighs up whether to coach the besieged Eels or accept a lucrative contract tabled by his spiritual home, Canberra, his decision could determine if prized recruit William Hopoate plays at Parramatta next season.

Hopoate's manager, Tyran Smith, is closely monitoring the turmoil at the once-proud Eels. Another crack in the club's foundations occurred during the week when a group of football club members started a secret campaign to secure the 106 signatures required to force an extraordinary general meeting.

They intend to demand accountability from the board and management for the direction Parramatta has taken in the past few years.


William Hopoate plays for the Sea Eagles. Photo: Getty Images
Smith stressed that Hopoate was on course to head to Parramatta, but it could be assumed one likely interested party - if that changed - would be the Canterbury Bulldogs.

Apart from being coached by Des Hasler, who led Hopoate and Manly to the premiership title in 2011, the club made a lucrative but unsuccessful bid for dual international Israel Folau while troubled fullback Ben Barba was released to play for Brisbane.

There was widespread speculation on Saturday night that Parramatta could part ways with Stuart as early as Sunday although chairman Steve Sharp, when contacted by Fairfax Media, denied rumours of a late-night board meeting or suggestions that the coach was Raiders-bound. ''He has given us no indication he wants to leave and there's no reason for us to believe he won't be seeing out the final two years of his contract,'' Sharp said. Smith is sure Hopoate, who represented NSW at State of Origin level before spending two years as a Mormon missionary in south-east Queensland, would want to honour his deal.

However, he said his duty was to ensure the 21-year-old utility back would join a club that would allow for him to fulfil his potential.

''I'm watching what's going on at Parramatta very closely," said Smith, a former New Zealand international who now heads Sports Player Management.

"William is an extremely loyal person and while he wouldn't know much about what is happening at Parramatta [because his mission forbids him from watching television, listening to the radio or reading newspapers], he'd want to honour the deal. y opinion is if everything stays the same, William will definitely fulfil his commitments at Parramatta." When prompted, Smith conceded ''everything stays the same" means Stuart - one of the Raiders' favourite sons who played 203 games for the club and is considered the ideal man to replace recently sacked coach David Furner - remaining at the helm of Parramatta.

"If Ricky was to leave the club I would need to look at Parramatta and see whether going to the club would be in the best interest of my client," he said. "He has to be in an environment that will be good for him. If there is a lot of turmoil in a club it's hard for any team [to do well]. It also extends to people like [football manager] Peter Nolan because he was there from the start in regards to Will and the plan that we've had.

''Then there's Ciriaco Mescia, who has been flying to Queensland with me to train him. They're still part of the club and that's all a consideration … but the turmoil …, if it [worsens], things will need to be reassessed." Hopoate, who signed a two-year, $1.7 million deal with the Eels after Manly won the title two years ago, was identified by then coach Stephen Kearney as a player who would be a leader and set standards that would lift the club.

However, there are growing concerns about the potential problems of Hopoate playing for a club struggling to make any impact on the premiership except for being the NRL's soap opera. Smith said the fitness tests Parramatta had conducted on Hopoate during his sabbatical suggested he was already of first-grade standard.

"He will go into the off-season ahead of many of his teammates in that regard because he's so fresh," Smith said on Saturday.

"For any NRL club, a player of his status, his talent, for what he's already achieved and for his mental toughness and his high morals, he'd appeal to plenty of people."

Hopoate's fitness is described as excellent, but Smith wants to revisit the idea of allowing him to play a handful of rugby union matches in Japan to fine tune his co-ordination before the 2014 NRL season. "A hit of rugby in Japan would be a good thing for him," he said. "His speed and strength is good [but Japanese rugby] would allow for William to get his timing back ahead of schedule."




Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-about-eels-20130831-2sxg0.html#ixzz2dcN0hp8L
 

AlwaysGreen

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He's finished the job at parra. He's taken them from strugglers to pathetic.

That's the Rick Stuart method. When he finishes with us we'll be bankrupt and have 5 spoons in our collection.
 
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If this happens, I really feel for the Raiders. They have a borderline top 8 team at the moment that should only improve in the next few years as their fantastic Holden Cup team kids come through into first grade. With the right sort of guidance, recruitment and retention, the Raiders could seriously be anything in a few years time. A good decision on coach at this point in time would probably put the last stepping stone in place to allow them to go to the next level.

Sadly, Ricky Stuart is not a good decision at coach. If I were Mitchell Cornish, I'd be watching this unfold in absolute horror and should Ricky sign on, I'd be the first bloke to pack up the kit bag and head for a different team. Ricky's record with halfbacks in particular is just horrendous. To stick with Ricky as a promising number 7 is to just basically consign yourself to never going anywhere near your potential.
 

Generalzod

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I thought Ricky made a long term commitment to the EELS, suddenly he is on the Canberra express, Speaks volumes for the guy.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Are you surprised? He dumped the NSW job to coach the eels and now he's looking to jump ship to the raiders. I don't know who to sorry for more, the eels for him leaving the club in a shambles of us for getting him.
 

Liddell

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Are you surprised? He dumped the NSW job to coach the eels and now he's looking to jump ship to the raiders. I don't know who to sorry for more, the eels for him leaving the club in a shambles of us for getting him.

Raiders for sure.

Parra can start genuinely re-building the minute he leaves. You guys are doomed from that first day of pre-season.
 
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Yep. He did his job at the Eels. Stripped them back to absolute zero. No matter what happens now, the new coach is guaranteed to be more succesful than the last.
 
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Stuart refuses to end Raiders speculation
By Adrian Warren
AAP
Mon 02nd September, 11:07pm

Ricky Stuart refused to rule out speculation he would coach the Raiders next year.
Parramatta coach Ricky Stuart says he doesn't want any more speculation about his future, but has done nothing to douse talk of a possible switch to Canberra.

Stuart's name has been linked to the Raiders, the club he won three premierships with as a player, ever since David Furner was sacked.

Canberra chief executive Don Furner said on Sunday Stuart's name was not on the Raiders shortlist, but rumours persist he could still be headed to the national capital.

Stuart said he won't talk about it until the end of the season.

"There's a lot of speculation about it," Stuart said after Parramatta's 26-22 win over St George Illawarra on Monday night.

"Every day there's something in the paper and I don't want any more speculation about me.

"I'd rather be here tonight talking about the win, it's something we haven't been able to talk about much lately.

"I'd like to have some positive press for a change; I'd prefer to talk about the win."

Asked if he could end the speculation Stuart said: "I'll talk about it after the season is done.

"I want a week there where we can go and move into Newcastle with a preparation where we don't have to worry about what's in the papers.

"It's unfair on the players.

"I don't want to talk about it because I want the players to be able to read tomorrow about a good win.

"The team spirit they showed, the camaraderie that's still in the group. That's more important than anything else at the moment."

http://www.nrl.com/stuart-refuses-to-end-raiders-speculation/tabid/10874/newsid/74408/default.aspx

This grub is holding the Paramatta club to ransom.How the faaark anyone would want this moron defies belief
 

soc123_au

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To me that reads as he is signed, sealed & delivered to the Raiders. He wants to wait until after the season so he doesn't derail the Eels wooden spoon celebrations. Back to back spoons in the salary cap era is quite an achievement.
 

Card Shark

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To me that reads as he is signed, sealed & delivered to the Raiders. He wants to wait until after the season so he doesn't derail the Eels wooden spoon celebrations. Back to back spoons in the salary cap era is quite an achievement.

Back to Back across 2 clubs would be better ;-)
 

AlwaysGreen

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What a f**king joke. If he's staying at Parra it's easy to end the speculation - you just say I'm honouring my contract.

I can't believe we are going to be stuck with this $ million dollar myth.


Loudy, where are you now to defend super Rick?
 

Card Shark

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What a f**king joke. If he's staying at Parra it's easy to end the speculation - you just say I'm honouring my contract.

Good point. He should've said "the boys did well & we have something to build on for next year". Seems like a done deal.

Can't believe the Raiders are that dumb & I can't believe the Eels are gunna get that lucky after seeing him in action for a year.
 

dogslife

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Back to Back across 2 clubs would be better ;-)
No see apparently he didn't win the spoon in 2010. Despite the fact the Sharks were dead last when he left.

But if anyone could bring Canberra down to spoon contender levels, I'm backing our mate Ricky.
 

dogslife

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I wonder how our resident Ricky Stuart foamers (aka deluded Parramatta fans) will feel about the master coach should he piss off before "the job is done"
 

butchmcdick

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stevie013

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that make 3/3 from clubs sticky has either been sacked from (roosters), or not honoured his contract before he was sacked anyway (sharks, parra) if he was to go to the raiders?
 

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