The Rumours Thread

[Life's Good]

I'm going to assume the club will give him next year with a proper halfback and if we don't dominate (I well and truly believe the club are gearing up for a Top 4 finish next year) they'll get rid of Mary.

I well and truly hope they were smart enough to put that clause into his contract, because if not the board has learnt absolutely nothing from the past 5 years.

This.
With the team being assembled for 2018 there surely can't be any more excuses. The board would have to dump him with or without any clause. No doubt 18 months too late.

 

[getsmarty]

Would Mary have any other options?

Painting...

 

[RedVDragon]

I would suggest Brian Johnston is the one who would negotiate the terms of his contract and I would be very comfortable he is astute enough to include these out clauses irrespective if Mary would sign it or not. If the contract was left in Doust hand then it would be a different situation.

 

[dragonssamy61]

I'm going to assume the club will give him next year with a proper halfback and if we don't dominate (I well and truly believe the club are gearing up for a Top 4 finish next year) they'll get rid of Mary.

I well and truly hope they were smart enough to put that clause into his contract, because if not the board has learnt absolutely nothing from the past 5 years.

I have a feeling you are correct.

 

[Gippsy]

I doubt Mary would sign a contract with that clause in it.

Well, when he signed it we were sitting pretty.

We can only hope.

 

[Forster Dragon]

He should just fall on his sword.

 

[coast_dragons]

He should just fall on his sword.

You know he won't and the club won't sack him.

I heard something very disturbing about why he was kept and at first i thought no way was it true but the more i thought about it and how stupid the Dragons are it makes sense.

I was told by some one who has had some good info in the past Mary was kept on because it would upset the Illawarra rugby league fraternity if he was given the arse.

I had to laugh as I know plenty of people with ties to rugby league along the south coast can't stand the arrogant merkin and are more then happy to see him gone for good.

I am not sure if there is any truth to this but i can assure you Mary has no friends within the local Illawarra comp from his days at Wests.

 

[epDragon62]

You know he won't and the club won't sack him.

I heard something very disturbing about why he was kept and at first i thought no way was it true but the more i thought about it and how stupid the Dragons are it makes sense.

I was told by some one who has had some good info in the past Mary was kept on because it would upset the Illawarra rugby league fraternity if he was given the arse.

I had to laugh as I know plenty of people with ties to rugby league along the south coast can't stand the arrogant merkin and are more then happy to see him gone for good.

I am not sure if there is any truth to this but i can assure you Mary has no friends within the local Illawarra comp from his days at Wests.

Just for balance: met someone who had first hand experience with Mary as a neighbor, apparently far from arrogant and very forthcoming helping the local nippers. He was described as a real decent, nice guy.

Doesn't make him a coache"'s arse hole though...

 

[coast_dragons]

Just for balance: met someone who had first hand experience with Mary as a neighbor, apparently far from arrogant and very forthcoming helping the local nippers. He was described as a real decent, nice guy.

Doesn't make him a coache"'s arse hole though...

Interesting as I had a cousin who played for Wests and he left the Red Devils because of Mary.

I myself have had dealings with him in the past in his playing days and he was a good decent bloke maybe he has changed over the years I am not sure.

I myself would never claim to know much about the inner sanctum that is the Dragons but something is seriously a miss.

 

[MilanDragon]

Could be that when coaching he comes across as arrogant and not compromising. Though I find it funny the dragons don't seem to have much, If any rumours of player unrest.

Then away from football in his personal life that he is a decent nice bloke.

He wouldn't be the first person that is different 'at work' and in personal life

 

[BankstownDragon]

I doubt Mary would sign a contract with that clause in it.

Mate I think Mary will sign any, and I mean ANY contract with whatever terms.
Beggars can't be choosers.

 

[Old Timer]

The issue is not him as a neighbour, friend, someone who assists the kids or a genuinely good bloke
The fact is he can't consistently coach a team in the NRL to perform at its potential nor lift a fear when necessary
He should be relinquished if his coaching duties and left to to go the things listed above which he probably excels at

 

[monsterkev]

You know he won't and the club won't sack him.

I heard something very disturbing about why he was kept and at first i thought no way was it true but the more i thought about it and how stupid the Dragons are it makes sense.

I was told by some one who has had some good info in the past Mary was kept on because it would upset the Illawarra rugby league fraternity if he was given the arse.

I had to laugh as I know plenty of people with ties to rugby league along the south coast can't stand the arrogant merkin and are more then happy to see him gone for good.

I am not sure if there is any truth to this but i can assure you Mary has no friends within the local Illawarra comp from his days at Wests.

I had heard something similar to this last season

 

[dragonssamy61]

Just for balance: met someone who had first hand experience with Mary as a neighbor, apparently far from arrogant and very forthcoming helping the local nippers. He was described as a real decent, nice guy.

Doesn't make him a coache"'s arse hole though...

Absolutely mate.
He is a decent human bean and i have met him as well.
But as you say not a great coach. He find it hard to take advise.
Good person and crap coach.

 

[Frank Facer]

Bellamy, Brown and Jason Demetirou, would be my top 3 choices to coach us, but Bellamy and Brown are not available until 2019.

 

[Objective View]

Absolutely mate.
He is a decent human bean and i have met him as well.

I second that, he's a bean for sure.

Straight Shooter

 

[Maxwell]

No not terminate it should be EXTERMINATE

 

[Mr Red]

The club deserve all they get due to complete incompetence ..
How he hell did they come to the conclusion that extending Mary for 2 seasons was the best option given both Cleary and Toovey were available.... and demetriou was already in the system and killing it with the cutters.....

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

Not sure if it's a rumour or wishful thinking but a couple of mates have been saying McGregor was extended on a 2 year deal with a clause if he doesn't make the 8 the dragons can terminate the contract ? Anyone know if it's fact or have any insight ?

It makes sense.
Any half respectable contract would have performance warranties in place and I can't believe that, whoever negotiated McGregor's contract, did not put in a termination option in favour of the club.
I also believe that McGregor would have been very comfortable signing such a contract given the way we were traveling at the time of his extension.
But as we all have endured, the wheels have well and truly fallen off and, there is now a distinct possibility that we will finish outside the 8.
Should that happen, will someone in the club have the balls to terminate MGregor's contract or will they take the gutless, faction appeasing option and keep him on in the hope that Hunt's arrival will somehow transform him into a "career coach" and take us to premiership glory?
My contention has nothing to do with McGregor personally and it should never be about that.
I am sure that he is a nice guy and all the rest of it but, that is not one of the criteria necessary to be an excellent and successful FG coach in the NRL.
Price was also a nice guy who oversaw a disastrous couple of years.
Let's do away with the self admiration element inside the club and look outside for a coach who can take control and drive us forward.
I believe that regardless of the final outcome in 2017, McGregor is just not qualified to coach FG.
Either are his assistants. Let's stop kidding ourselves.
If we hand him another season with an improved roster (read Hunt, Graham and other mystery speedsters that will overhaul our backline) - it will be a waste of an opportunity to make real change and start competing with the better clubs.

 

[Objective View]

He doesn't strike me as one under pressure, fighting for his job. On the contrary, he's hoping to fall into the 8 and claim the year an outstanding success. Even if we come 9th he'll still claim it as a success. The experts had us wooden spoon, remember.

Straight Shooter