The Rumours Thread

[Dragon David]

And what does it say about the nature of the Competition that we are still a chance to make the 8? The NRL head honcho's need a real re-think about the structure of the Salary Cap, TPA's, Transfer Fees for clubs producing juniors etc.

What does it say about the club when a team from a non NRL state has been the best team over the last 20 years? Are they well run etc blah, blah,blah. Melbourne isn't, never has been and never will be a rugby league city. Never. But the obsession with spreading the "brand" is totally at the expense of the heartland (Newcastle, Illawarra, Sydney West, all of QLD), but persist we must! I am so thoroughly sick the The Storm and everything about them.

This SMH article written by Andrew Webster in 2018 is worth a read.

Why Melbourne Storm are rugby league’s greatest success story

A lot of people are going to hate this column: the team reviled by many in NSW are the game's greatest success story. At the very least, in the past 20 years.

www.smh.com.au

 

[BBTB]

And what does it say about the nature of the Competition that we are still a chance to make the 8? The NRL head honcho's need a real re-think about the structure of the Salary Cap, TPA's, Transfer Fees for clubs producing juniors etc.

What does it say about the club when a team from a non NRL state has been the best team over the last 20 years? Are they well run etc blah, blah,blah,blah. Melbourne isn't, never has been and never will be a rugby league city. Never. But the obsession with spreading the "brand" is totally at the expense of the heartland (Newcastle, Illawarra, Sydney West, all of QLD), but persist we must! I am so thoroughly sick the The Storm and everything about them.

I think it stinks.The storm has been give extra money in their salary cap for more than 10yrs.The NRL has favoured them over all NRL teams.
...Just because they wanted them to be success
in Victoria....an AFL state.The NRL is a very shonky organisation at best......& the Melbourne Storm are a close second.

 

[Trifili13]

Really good post.

I'm increasingly of the belief that each year there are 4 or 5 clubs with good rosters, 3 or 4 clubs with obviously poor rosters and the remaining 8 or so are simply fighting to fill out the broadcast schedule come September.

It's interesting then to think of what separates those 8 teams. Certainly luck - both on and off the field - plays a part as does form and coaching. But there's never actually any chance of winning the comp so a "grand final" is really just scraping into those last four places in the eight.

While I agree with what you are saying, I think you will find that in most high level competitions, only a handful of teams (and in some cases it's a one or at best a two-horse race) actually have a chance to win the competition (not sure about American sports as don't follow the NFL, NBA or baseball). The rest just make up the numbers with the odd shock victory such as Leicester in the EPL a few years ago. I actually enjoy the relegation battle in the European football leagues and the emotion and drama of seeing your team survive or go down. Unfortunately we don't have the depth in player numbers and cost of travel is prohibitive for such a big country to have a second division.

Just wish the Dragon's were one of the 3 or 4 teams with a chance of winning each year.

 

[Gomarchin]

We need an owner that cares and WANTS the club to succeed.

Simple as that.

We have an owner that doesn't care and probably wouldn't know whether we were 4th or 14th on the table.

But, the blame should be on the board who agreed to sell the club to WIN corp. How ironic??! WIN? We haven't done that since Bennett left in 2011.

 

[Dragon David]

We need an owner that cares and WANTS the club to succeed.

Simple as that.

We have an owner that doesn't care and probably wouldn't know whether we were 4th or 14th on the table.

But, the blame should be on the board who agreed to sell the club to WIN corp. How ironic??! WIN? We haven't done that since Bennett left in 2011.

Is there such an organisation called LOSE - Lost Our Saints Empire?

 

[BBTB]

While I agree with what you are saying, I think you will find that in most high level competitions, only a handful of teams (and in some cases it's a one or at best a two-horse race) actually have a chance to win the competition (not sure about American sports as don't follow the NFL, NBA or baseball). The rest just make up the numbers with the odd shock victory such as Leicester in the EPL a few years ago. I actually enjoy the relegation battle in the European football leagues and the emotion and drama of seeing your team survive or go down. Unfortunately we don't have the depth in player numbers and cost of travel is prohibitive for such a big country to have a second division.

Just wish the Dragon's were one of the 3 or 4 teams with a chance of winning each year.

We need an owner that cares and WANTS the club to succeed.

Simple as that.

We have an owner that doesn't care and probably wouldn't know whether we were 4th or 14th on the table.

But, the blame should be on the board who agreed to sell the club to WIN corp. How ironic??! WIN? We haven't done that since Bennett left in 2011.

Exactly, that was Doust's parting gesture. WIN gets to
reap the benefits. Of another
Shonky deal. Others tendered their price,for ownership of the stgeorge/ill club. Doust selected WIN..They take half of Club at 50% of it's TRUE value.Doust then resigned.
Then Andy Gordon is made
"Chairman of the Board".
And unbelievably f**kn "Doust" pops back up on the Board again,thanks to the stinking Gordon's. It's got to be illegal. And the NRL does
Nothing as usual.

 

[Dragon David]

Exactly, that was Doust's parting gesture. WIN gets to
reap the benefits. Of another
Shonky deal. Others tendered their price,for ownership of the stgeorge/ill club. Doust selected WIN..They take half of Club at 50% of it's TRUE value.Doust then resigned.
Then Andy Gordon is made
"Chairman of the Board".
And unbelievably f**kn "Doust" pops back up on the Board again,thanks to the stinking Gordon's. It's got to be illegal. And the NRL does
Nothing as usual.

I've forgotten how the ownership/BOD was before Bruce became part owner. Anybody know?

 

[BBTB]

I've forgotten how the ownership/BOD was before Bruce became part owner. Anybody know?

Yes B.Johnson was chairman. He retired, on some BS.story. About a family farm....The truth, he got wind of the shonky deal with the Gordon's & Doust.

 

[Nicholas Kosic]

Probably got a slice

 

[Como Connection]

Exactly, that was Doust's parting gesture. WIN gets to
reap the benefits. Of another
Shonky deal. Others tendered their price,for ownership of the stgeorge/ill club. Doust selected WIN..They take half of Club at 50% of it's TRUE value.Doust then resigned.
Then Andy Gordon is made
"Chairman of the Board".
And unbelievably f**kn "Doust" pops back up on the Board again,thanks to the stinking Gordon's. It's got to be illegal. And the NRL does
Nothing as usual.

Incorrect, Illawarra sold there share to Win.
CC

 

[BIG RIG]

So now that Moses Mbye is officially signed who do you think will be next that the club chases

Has anyone heard any genuine rumours ?

 

[Rob Dragon 1]

We need an owner that cares and WANTS the club to succeed.

Simple as that.

We have an owner that doesn't care and probably wouldn't know whether we were 4th or 14th on the table.

But, the blame should be on the board who agreed to sell the club to WIN corp. How ironic??! WIN? We haven't done that since Bennett left in 2011.

And there it is folks, in a nutshell. One has to wonder what WIN's motivation was to buy out the Illawarra share? Surely they (and St George Bank) don't want to see the diminution of their brands by being associated with this rabble. Is there any table thumping and explosive outbursts behind close doors to the effect of "get this fixed and get it right or you'll be skinned alive". I suspect not. I keep coming to the conclusion that the purchase was ego driven, and a play thing for Bruce Gordons son, little Andy!

 

[BBTB]

Incorrect, Illawarra sold there share to Win.
CC

No ur incorrect. Doust brockered the deal.

 

[I'm Hornby]

So now that Moses Mbye is officially signed who do you think will be next that the club chases

Has anyone heard any genuine rumours ?

Maybe Ogden from the dogs for next year? He is off contract and it was floated last week.

 

[RedVee]

And there it is folks, in a nutshell. One has to wonder what WIN's motivation was to buy out the Illawarra share? Surely they (and St George Bank) don't want to see the diminution of their brands by being associated with this rabble. Is there any table thumping and explosive outbursts behind close doors to the effect of "get this fixed and get it right or you'll be skinned alive". I suspect not. I keep coming to the conclusion that the purchase was ego driven, and a play thing for Bruce Gordons son, little Andy!

The worst thing is that they gave away control to the Gordon’s as well

 

[BIG RIG]

Buzz rothfield just reported that Adam Clune is set to join the Knights

 

[redV06]

 

[Nicholas Kosic]

And there it is folks, in a nutshell. One has to wonder what WIN's motivation was to buy out the Illawarra share? Surely they (and St George Bank) don't want to see the diminution of their brands by being associated with this rabble. Is there any table thumping and explosive outbursts behind close doors to the effect of "get this fixed and get it right or you'll be skinned alive". I suspect not. I keep coming to the conclusion that the purchase was ego driven, and a play thing for Bruce Gordons son, little Andy!

Yes but what about St George bank ,are they happy with this pack of bushwhackers

 

[BIG RIG]

I am very confused into where our squad is going for 2022

With Clunes release mayby Hook is freeing up cap space for a particular signing ?

 

[Trifili13]

IMO, Clune is just a reserve grader and if we have Hunt, Sullivan, Amone, Mbye, plus maybe others, he is not going to get a run. He might be a good clubman, but in all honesty, we need better quality than Clune if we want to compete with the big boys.