The Rumours Thread

[justadragon]

De belin's taken up his 2024 player option on huge money. f**k me.. personally would've been giving him a tap on the shoulder given his wages and hoping he respected it and walked.

I think you are being a bit harsh on JDB, he showed improvement as the year progressed and is our best defensive player ,although he could have showed some respect to the club that waited for him so long and took a small paycut, just like the mighty Lance Thompson did (RIP).

 

[Parko1310]

I think you are being a bit harsh on JDB, he showed improvement as the year progressed and is our best defensive player ,although he could have showed some respect to the club that waited for him so long and took a small paycut, just like the mighty Lance Thompson did (RIP).

I think he goes alright as a player, just not a 750k a year type player. I'm also taking into account how poor he reportedly is for club culture considering both media reports and things a couple posters on here with sources within the club have said.

Still, yes he is a good defender which we need and has a great tackle technique.

 

[justadragon]

I think he goes alright as a player, just not a 750k a year type player. I'm also taking into account how poor he reportedly is for club culture considering both media reports and things a couple posters on here with sources within the club have said.

Still, yes he is a good defender which we need and has a great tackle technique.

100% agree with you, he could have shown some grace and take a pay cut, lets not forget what he did during BBQ gate whilst only just coming off second trial and supposedly trying to show some good behavior. He owes the club big time.

 

[Parko1310]

NRL puts US game on ice, Dragons to face Super League champions

The NRL remains keen to take a competition game to the United States, but ran out of time to do so for 2023.

www.smh.com.au

Saints vs Saints.. looking forward to it.

 

[denis preston]

Debellins contract shocked me and showed a board way out of touch with reality. Glad there has been changes and hope more heads should roll.

 

[Gareth67]

NRL puts US game on ice, Dragons to face Super League champions

The NRL remains keen to take a competition game to the United States, but ran out of time to do so for 2023.

www.smh.com.au

Saints vs Saints.. looking forward to it.

Saints v Saints , how good would that be ! Even better if our boys could out winners .

And if victorious , then no doubt Griffo would secure himself another extension .

 

[VodkaSaint]

Saints v Saints , how good would that be ! Even better if our boys could out winners .

And if victorious , then no doubt Griffo would secure himself another extension .

Not a chance, hes goooooonski

 

[BLM01]

I think he goes alright as a player, just not a 750k a year type player. I'm also taking into account how poor he reportedly is for club culture considering both media reports and things a couple posters on here with sources within the club have said.

Still, yes he is a good defender which we need and has a great tackle technique.

Posters said on here as gospel?.. who has sources within the club.. huh
What recent media reports have said he is poor on culture. They used that line when he was going through his dues in court and training with the players
Is that still the case after the past 1.5 years?

 

[BLM01]

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Points you make have not much to do with culture within the club
1. BBQ - 14 others joined him there
2. His personal choices and your perception of him as a person thats fine and your right to an opinion.
But that is not what is on judgement here...as have little to do with your unknown perception of his presence to culture within the club
3. No one said he is a positive influence or efending his actions. Your the one calling him poor for internal club culture
4. Does he get paid too much.. probably, but whose fault is that and how many NRL players fall in that category

You dont have to like him, but making stuff about his impact on club cluture within the inner sanctum of the club, where no one on this forum knows details says more about the writer not the target

 

[BLM01]

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Your first half of post is opinion. Ok that is yours.
But your second half.. Clearly have insight? Really!

No one indicated especially me that you making up anything about who you believe.
Its just i dont necessarily believe posters that advertise and use that they no someone who knows someone etc have info on inner sanctum goings on thats all to get a point across.
Which posters of reliability have said JDB is poor on club culture in the past 18 months?

There is one poster who was genuine and is in and around players at training and lower grade games and officials at times but he no longer contributes on here and he certainly did not publicise everything he knew.

 

[Crush]

JDB isn’t a good rôle model when it comes to how to live your life, sure. But he might be good for a NRL winning culture, who knows. When we talk about good culture we should be talking about football right? How to get a more positive output from players on game day.
Take McCulloch, seems like a great role model for how one should behave off the field, good human and all that but is he helping our winning culture?
That Jerome Luai looks like an utter twat, I bet he is a real dick. But he’s good for the Panthers winning culture, he’s a competitor and a huge asset to the club.
As was Joey Johns, Darren Lockyer, by all reports loved to party and play up off the field.
BTW, I won’t name names but I have heard that a couple of our forum darlings are absolute trash off the field, drop kicks. But do we really care if they are dicks at the local nightclubs if they can win us games of football?

 

[True_Believer]

here is one poster who was genuine and is in and around players at training and lower grade games and officials at times but he no longer contributes on here and he certainly did not publicise everything he knew.

And we're all the poorer for it....

 

[True_Believer]

BTW, I won’t name names but I have heard that a couple of our forum darlings are absolute trash off the field, drop kicks.

I've heard things about players (both Dragons players and from other teams) from people I trust, but it's pretty pointless repeating that sort of info on here. People don't know me from a bar of soap and if that information contradicts what people want to believe then it will be shot down or ignored anyway.

I've tried passing on info about a past player where I got the info from a source as close to the player as you could get, but people didn't like that info because it didn't fit with what the forum wanted the truth to be. So it was argued against and basically dismissed. People will believe what they want to believe based on their own personal biases/agendas and based on the general sentiment in here. Even if it comes from journalists that are known to dislike the Dragons.

 

[possm]

I'd say the 'poor culture' of our club has more to do with those running the club than those playing on the field. I learned very early in my life that the culture of a group, team, club, business or company, is very reflective of the standards set by leadership.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

Deserves his pay.
Jack was our most consistent and hardest working player on the field.
Every time he was off the opposition got the upper hand.

May have lost something in the legs for go forward but his defence, along with Jake T, is still the cleanest and most effective in the NRL. He cuts them down like a scythe. If there was anyone you'd want to back to stop a rampaging Kikau or Taumalolo for your life, he'd be my man.

 

[possm]

I'm looking for a big step up for PROP De Belin in 2023!

 

[BLM01]

I'd say the 'poor culture' of our club has more to do with those running the club than those playing on the field. I learned very early in my life that the culture of a group, team, club, business or company, is very reflective of the standards set by leadership.

Now your talkin Possm

 

[Old Timer]

Our club had had many a good player with a less than good moral compass or judgement.

In bygone years their actions were barely reported and swept under the carpet very quickly if they were.

Much of their poor behaviour especially in regard to women went unreported as women had no voice and were subject to slurs like “town bike” etc and the perpetrators deeds were often laughed about and became folkloric.

Despite their low morals very often such players were / are the very kind of players that other players want in their team as they just happened to be good footy players and to be perfectly frank if morals had of been the key question in respect of who pulls on the Big Red V jumper each week then no chance whatsoever that we win 11 in a row.

JDB's situation played out in the court for all to see and the facts as presented showed how grubby his actions were and the language used highly disrespectful and offensive.

So footy players of today still do what footy players of years gone by do.

The difference now is that women have a voice and cannot always be silenced although many are still looked upon as the "town bike" by players and in also fact by fans looking for a way to support a good footy player with poor moral fiber.

To me JDB is a grub and to be perfectly honest a real dumb f**k to boot and I would prefer to not see him in our club but his morals or lack thereof obviously concern me far more than our administration, his fellow players or our sponsors.

So in the end for some JDB must bring something positive to the club that far outweighs his negatives and that winning footy games is more important than being morally sound in all things relating to your club.

Watching the demise of Albert over his misdemeanor compared to the support for JDB has proven very curious to me and just shows how fans react about different issues and that IMO is influenced by whether you are currently playing or not.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

Our club had had many a good player with a less than good moral compass or judgement.

In bygone years their actions were barely reported and swept under the carpet very quickly if they were.

Much of their poor behaviour especially in regard to women went unreported as women had no voice and were subject to slurs like “town bike” etc and the perpetrators deeds were often laughed about and became folkloric.

Despite their low morals very often such players were / are the very kind of players that other players want in their team as they just happened to be good footy players and to be perfectly frank if morals had of been the key question in respect of who pulls on the Big Red V jumper each week then no chance whatsoever that we win 11 in a row.

JDB's situation played out in the court for all to see and the facts as presented showed how grubby his actions were and the language used highly disrespectful and offensive.

So footy players of today still do what footy players of years gone by do.

The difference now is that women have a voice and cannot always be silenced although many are still looked upon as the "town bike" by players and in also fact by fans looking for a way to support a good footy player with poor moral fiber.

To me JDB is a grub and to be perfectly honest a real dumb f**k to boot and I would prefer to not see him in our club but his morals or lack thereof obviously concern me far more than our administration, his fellow players or our sponsors.

So in the end for some JDB must bring something positive to the club that far outweighs his negatives and that winning footy games is more important than being morally sound in all things relating to your club.

Watching the demise of Albert over his misdemeanor compared to the support for JDB has proven very curious to me and just shows how fans react about different issues and that IMO is influenced by whether you are currently playing or not.

You make a valid point OT- I advocated for JDB to be sacked after the BBQ incident as he initially lied to club officials and tried to pretend he wasn't there-
(I think he was under a bed when the police arrived- ironic given his history!). Other posters didn't see the lying as a hanging offence and the rest is history.

I tend to think that Possm is on the money with his analysis of the deals that have been done over the years that have resulted in the incestuous, undemocratic and dysfunctional nature of the Board we now have at SGI. Chairman Young's strong reaction to the low show up at the club's presentation night, a stark contrast to CEO Webb's low-key reaction, as if they don't communicate, was the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

I"ve already posted that, as Souths members did, SGI members and supporters need to rally in the street and demand that this board be sacked and an administrator appointed pending a new structure more accountable to members. Probably will never happen- but it should.

 

[Trifili13]

Our club had had many a good player with a less than good moral compass or judgement.

In bygone years their actions were barely reported and swept under the carpet very quickly if they were.

Much of their poor behaviour especially in regard to women went unreported as women had no voice and were subject to slurs like “town bike” etc and the perpetrators deeds were often laughed about and became folkloric.

Despite their low morals very often such players were / are the very kind of players that other players want in their team as they just happened to be good footy players and to be perfectly frank if morals had of been the key question in respect of who pulls on the Big Red V jumper each week then no chance whatsoever that we win 11 in a row.

JDB's situation played out in the court for all to see and the facts as presented showed how grubby his actions were and the language used highly disrespectful and offensive.

So footy players of today still do what footy players of years gone by do.

The difference now is that women have a voice and cannot always be silenced although many are still looked upon as the "town bike" by players and in also fact by fans looking for a way to support a good footy player with poor moral fiber.

To me JDB is a grub and to be perfectly honest a real dumb f**k to boot and I would prefer to not see him in our club but his morals or lack thereof obviously concern me far more than our administration, his fellow players or our sponsors.

So in the end for some JDB must bring something positive to the club that far outweighs his negatives and that winning footy games is more important than being morally sound in all things relating to your club.

Watching the demise of Albert over his misdemeanor compared to the support for JDB has proven very curious to me and just shows how fans react about different issues and that IMO is influenced by whether you are currently playing or not.

Agree OT, if we had a team of JWH's and Asofa's who most would call grubby players, but we were consistently in the top 4 and winning the odd comp, you would barely hear a murmur from us supporters. It's all about winning for most people, and I include myself.