The Rumours Thread

[The Villain]

I would be elated if we are able to sign
Welsby
Dearden
AFB
Luki

One would be good. Any more than that surely is unthinkable

 

[possm]

Allen > Tracey
Dearden > Hunt
AFB > F Molo

So,
1. Allen
2 . ?
3. Sulli
4. Lomax
5. Ravalawa
6. Dearden
7. Flannagan
8. AFB in 2024
9. Liddle
10. Lawrie

 

[TheRev]

Easy there fellas.. a fall from the height you are getting urselves too will be fatal.. lets sign 1 of them first..

I would also love to know why Welsby hasnt already signed with another nrl club, surely theyve tried? He's in a long contract iirc, and I guess most clubs have a gun fullback so he's not quite as useful.

Note: Does this mean Dearden is no longer a go? Seem very similar roles and standings... Mam has fallen thru.

 

[Draginzaaar]

Easy there fellas.. a fall from the height you are getting urselves too will be fatal.. lets sign 1 of them first..

I would also love to know why Welsby hasnt already signed with another nrl club, surely theyve tried? He's in a long contract iirc, and I guess most clubs have a gun fullback so he's not quite as useful.

Note: Does this mean Dearden is no longer a go? Seem very similar roles and standings... Mam has fallen thru.

Why would he leave 2 years early? They would want a huge transfer fee. Would that come out of the cap?

 

[TheRev]

Not worried about transfer fees, we have large amounts of 2023 and 2024 unspent cap space.. but someone said St Helens never let players go early so I dunno if its just a hail mary play.

Another perspective is the conversation is intended to put a rocket up the Dearden negotiation.. all speculation but its fascinating.

 

[redV06]

We’ll probably end up with Jai Field

 

[Biglance]

I think we seriously need a hooker

 

[getsmarty]

St Helens star Jack Welsby reportedly enters talks with NRL side St George Illawarra Dragons

ST HELENS star Jack Welsby has reportedly entered talks with NRL side St George Illawarra Dragons. That’s according to the Daily Telegraph which has claimed that the Dragons have had a glowin…

www.totalrl.com

 

[BLM01]

This seems to be lining up with my thoughts from the other day. I think AFB has made up his mind that he wants to come to the Dragons. It's just a matter of sorting out what compensation the Warriors get. Forget about the Sharks, no matter what the media say, they do not have the money. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors don't even get a player swap out of this, it might just be money. Su'a won't move to NZ. I think trading Molo is the wrong move for us, and who says he wants to move to NZ? I'd also not be shocked to see us pull this off as a signing for 2024 which would be a major coup.

In regard to the conversation on Su'a, I love him both as a person and a player in our team. But the notion that he's our best second rower since Creagh for example is just wrong, that title belongs to Tyson Frizell. The reality is, currently, Su'a is not in the same tier as AFB in his position. AFB is undeniably in the top 3 props in the game, he is elite. Su'a is not that. Su'a cannot claim to be in the top tier of back rowers in the competition. One poster suggested Su'a wanted a 4 year deal to re-sign or he'd be going to the Dolphins. I'd be saying to him thanks, but no thanks. If he wants the opportunity for 4 years I'd be happy to give him a 3 year deal with a mutual option for a 4th. But he is not a "must keep" that we should bend to his demands for. One of our best players, and I want to keep him, but not on an outright 4 year deal. Why would you give a 4 year deal to someone who can't stay on the field? Over the last two seasons he has been injured and suspended a lot. Not saying his fortunes won't turn around, but given we are going to tie up a large chunk of money into AFB, we can't afford to tie up more big money into another forward for the same period of time who may or may not play more than 15-16 games in any given year. Su'a is not cheap. He hasn't even really taken off at our club yet, he's shown glimpses, but just hasn't reached any great heights as of yet. For all these reasons it's 3 years and a mutual option for a 4th maximum for me, and if he says no then that's okay. I'd be sad to see him go, as I said one of my favourite players, but a 4 year deal is not right for the club. If we land Luki, he replaces Su'a on the right edge and we bring in Ryan Couchman/Dylan Egan on the left edge in this situation and keep our cap in shape in the long run.

Frizzell of course. Yes

 

[Wolfgang90]

Dragons have reportedly opened negotiations with Jack Welsby

 

[Budpower]

welsbys a must, buries teddy, up there with slater superstar, its what we need! get rid of amone dont wait

 

[Wolfgang90]

From those off-contract in 2024. Imo these would be realistic/reasonable options:

nick cotric
toby sexton
Braden Hamlin-Uele
Jack Williams
Kayal Iro
Euan Aitken
Tesi Niu
Ben Trbojevic
Nick Meaney
Reimis Smith
Mat Croker
Luke Metcalf
Freddy Lussick
Kulikefu Finefeuiaki
Heilum Luki
Semi Valemei
Daejarn Asi
Daine Laurie
Luke Garner
Matt Eisenhuth
Sunia Turuva
Taylan May
Zac Hosking
Isaiah Tass
Angus Crichton
Billy Smith
Brandon Smith
Terrell May
Alex Twal
Asu Kepaoa
Junior Tupou
Stefano Utoikamanu

I'm sure i'm missing a few but plenty of options available. We don't need to panic buy, we can be selective (to an extent). One thing it shows is the lack of quality halves, we need to start planning for a halfback because hunt has at max 2 years left with us.

 

[thebigredv]

From those off-contract in 2024. Imo these would be realistic/reasonable options:

nick cotric
toby sexton
Braden Hamlin-Uele
Jack Williams
Kayal Iro
Euan Aitken
Tesi Niu
Ben Trbojevic
Nick Meaney
Reimis Smith
Mat Croker
Luke Metcalf
Freddy Lussick
Kulikefu Finefeuiaki
Heilum Luki
Semi Valemei
Daejarn Asi
Daine Laurie
Luke Garner
Matt Eisenhuth
Sunia Turuva
Taylan May
Zac Hosking
Isaiah Tass
Angus Crichton
Billy Smith
Brandon Smith
Terrell May
Alex Twal
Asu Kepaoa
Junior Tupou
Stefano Utoikamanu

Bulldogs got them all already.

 

[BlackDuckSaint]

Not worried about transfer fees, we have large amounts of 2023 and 2024 unspent cap space.. but someone said St Helens never let players go early so I dunno if its just a hail mary play.

Another perspective is the conversation is intended to put a rocket up the Dearden negotiation.. all speculation but its fascinating.

Couldn't agree more.

Really need the first domino to fall before we start writing 25' dream teams.

 

[Illusion]

Not worried about transfer fees, we have large amounts of 2023 and 2024 unspent cap space.. but someone said St Helens never let players go early so I dunno if its just a hail mary play.

Another perspective is the conversation is intended to put a rocket up the Dearden negotiation.. all speculation but its fascinating.

Hay Rev keep Mary out of this , had enough of him ........

 

[Illusion]

Here we go again ......... https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...iCqSpLte7sgy87cmmVmFk37fV2O8ydlgaAglAEALw_wcB

 

[Dragon David]

Here we go again ......... https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...iCqSpLte7sgy87cmmVmFk37fV2O8ydlgaAglAEALw_wcB

Isn't this old news Illusion? It's dated 22 December 2022. Dead and buried now I think??

 

[Parko1310]

Why would he leave 2 years early? They would want a huge transfer fee. Would that come out of the cap?

Transfer fees won't come out of the cap. They'll just come out of the club's money. This is where some owners might step in and put their hands in their pocket, but I would say for us it would have to come purely out of club revenue. Potential issue there is we are obviously spending a fair bit on CoE for example.

 

[twinkletoes]

Its just nice to see the Dragons being considered as "Serious" contenders in the player market again and not treated as a joke!!

 

[denis preston]

We let our best half go surely our decision makers have it all under control.

Hunt is still with us.