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justadragon

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Ur talking out of your ass, we almost came last , therefore Gutherson was never pushed to play, Parra were more than happy to keep him for his final year. he got the dirts and chose to leave to highest bidder ….. by the way if don’t already know. Gutherson and his grubby agent have played out every contract negotiation the media , pathetic look for a so called leader……parra have looked after him very well,hope do sign him , that will complete ur wooden spoon squad!!!
Can you name all the bidders ? I would like to know if there was one possibly closer to home. It doesnt seem so to me.
 
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Criticise Ryles etc all you like, however - welcome to the world of Ayoub/Gutho negotiations, as soon as they don’t get what they want - leak comments to the press and use that as a influence to pressure the club.

The Eels have seen it at the last 2 Gutho extensions and are happy that Ayoub is doing it elsewhere, he is what you could suggest was difficult and slimy.
Rather ironic someone called 'Delboy' talking moral ethics of negotiations.

lol

But anyway, all you've done is increase my Flanno approval rating. He won't be such a pushover.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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It makes me wonder if the journo's get some cut from the player agents for promoting their players or putting in rubbish articles to pressure clubs to sign them. Only the journo's in the NRL write stories that are agenda driven. Never about the game, just their own personal interest.
 

BLM01

First Grade
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Criticise Ryles etc all you like, however - welcome to the world of Ayoub/Gutho negotiations, as soon as they don’t get what they want - leak comments to the press and use that as a influence to pressure the club.

The Eels have seen it at the last 2 Gutho extensions and are happy that Ayoub is doing it elsewhere, he is what you could suggest was difficult and slimy.
I am sure Ayoub manages others at Parra or ones coming so you don’t escape either
Every club has to put up with him
 

TheRev

Coach
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You have to remember DW was the first to say Gutho to Dragons a few months back and everyone laughed about it, he may be a weasel but he was spot on..
I was one of those who issued a DW apology a few weeks after he said that.. seemed like one of the usual journos with an A+B=Z made up headline, but when Parra rly were talking about moving him on, I realised there was clearly some truth in it.. it was just whether we could pull it off.
 

The Predictor

Juniors
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And I bet you were one of those annoying cretins that frantically waved your little blue and yellow flag with the worm on it each time he scored a try for the club .

Regardless if he signs with the Dragons or not it has been quite obvious to any fan of the game that he was a big part of the Parramatta side over the years .
Why so much charm…..no name calling on my part…..anyway…good luck dick head!!!!
 

Biglance

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The Gutho camp maybe worried about the medical hence the pressure to get it done asap. Saint should take their time on this. If there is someone to blame Gutho it is the Eels for playing you whilst you were busted, and then booting you out after doing so, hence potentially ruining your career. That is a dog act not Saints making sure you are not damaged goods because of it. I like how again Saints will look like the

sam ayoubs son liam works for the bulldogs
 

TruSaint

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Ur talking out of your ass, we almost came last , therefore Gutherson was never pushed to play, Parra were more than happy to keep him for his final year. he got the dirts and chose to leave to highest bidder ….. by the way if don’t already know. Gutherson and his grubby agent have played out every contract negotiation the media , pathetic look for a so called leader……parra have looked after him very well,hope do sign him , that will complete ur wooden spoon squad!!!

FWIW, i rate Ryles and think he will do well. Parra have never been i team I despise, and I am happy for him.

I just find it a bit rich coming onto another Clubs forum and dishing out on a player whom has served you for nearly a decade. Sounds to me you're upset at his manager which is fine, but trashing Gutho himself makes no sense. I have never heard him say he didn't want to play for the Eels, or that he wanted to be elsewhere. You know who did ? Our Captain Ben (c)Hunt.

Like i said it's a free forum and you can post what you wish, but surely you know that the tone you are taking is going to lead to pushback.
 

The Predictor

Juniors
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At the end of the day u are all having ago at me regarding Gutherson and shitty contract negotiations, yet u are absolutely tearing lomax to shreds, no doubt he has some dickhead in him, but it really sour grapes on ur part, because he has been sensational this year, so don’t bitch about the Kings treatment as u guys are far far worse regarding Lomax!!!!
 

The Predictor

Juniors
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FWIW, i rate Ryles and think he will do well. Parra have never been i team I despise, and I am happy for him.

I just find it a bit rich coming onto another Clubs forum and dishing out on a player whom has served you for nearly a decade. Sounds to me you're upset at his manager which is fine, but trashing Gutho himself makes no sense. I have never heard him say he didn't want to play for the Eels, or that he wanted to be elsewhere. You know who did ? Our Captain Ben (c)Hunt.

Like i said it's a free forum and you can post what you wish, but surely you know that the tone you are taking is going to lead to pushback.
Mate he has been fantastic for us, but there have been several downsides, I would have been stoked for him to stay, and then take on a coaching role, not to be as he was very quick to jump, I was just explaining circumstances when it comes to him and his management negotiating….by the way why do u all hate on Hunt who has played just as many games for ur club? because his homesick?
 

maestro1

Bench
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Ur talking out of your ass, we almost came last , therefore Gutherson was never pushed to play, Parra were more than happy to keep him for his final year. he got the dirts and chose to leave to highest bidder ….. by the way if don’t already know. Gutherson and his grubby agent have played out every contract negotiation the media , pathetic look for a so called leader……parra have looked after him very well,hope do sign him , that will complete ur wooden spoon squad!!!
WOW!!!! And what has Parra done since August to make you think that Parra won't get the spoon 🥄. Signed a rookie coach and some filler players. Lomax isn't going to be the messiah. Especially when Ryles tried to move him to wing and he throws his toys out of the cot. Such confidence that Parra will do better than Saints. Based on what?
 

BlackDuckSaint

Juniors
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At the end of the day u are all having ago at me regarding Gutherson and shitty contract negotiations, yet u are absolutely tearing lomax to shreds, no doubt he has some dickhead in him, but it really sour grapes on ur part, because he has been sensational this year, so don’t bitch about the Kings treatment as u guys are far far worse regarding Lomax!!!!
A lot of people have soured on Lomax because we put in a lot of time supporting him for years with very little return.

Finally, this year, we see what everyone saw in him from the start. The gifted one...

Only for him to agitate for a release... And be super passive aggressive since leaving. Being stoked that his time at the dragons is done. Saying Michael Maguire is the best coach he has had even though without Flanno, he is nowhere near NSW or Aus jerseys, backing Hunt and his bullshit dragging this club we all love through the mud.

I honestly hope he fails wherever he goes. No injuries or anything. But no premierships. Plays centre and loses his wing rep jumpers.

For a classy player. He lacks class and deserves none from me at least.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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Mate he has been fantastic for us, but there have been several downsides, I would have been stoked for him to stay, and then take on a coaching role, not to be as he was very quick to jump, I was just explaining circumstances when it comes to him and his management negotiating….by the way why do u all hate on Hunt who has played just as many games for ur club? because his homesick?

Not that he is / was homesick as he may well end up in Sydney mate. Also, unlike Clint, it wasn't a manager that went public, it was Hunt himself during Origin camp. We are not going to agree mate, but the difference for me is that our highest paid player and Captain has been agitating to get out of our Club for 18 months. The media circus surrounding Hunt has been ongoing for 2 seasons. Had he approached the Club and negotiated an exit suitable then I would respect him. He went public to force our hand and we called his bluff second time around.
 

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