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since77

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Well i'd argue we have held people accountable. We sacked Griffin, essentially hired a new coaching team and have a new CEO in-bound.

Rava and Lawire were both resigned when they were undisputed starters and Molo was re-signed because we couldn't fill the top 30! I'd argue that the Board held so much operational power, that they would've been involved in this. Of all of the idiotic things we've done at this club, I don't really have an issue in those 3 players being resigned. Hindsight is wonderful.

I don't know anything about Haran and Millward and what they do, but I am impressed with our top 30 signings this year and next, while the young players we've signed look like genuine good quality first graders.

For the first time in a long-time I say give the club a break

It's only very very recently that the club has vaguely started making better management steps and to be honest it seems to driven more by Flanno than the board. And let's not forget we fluked into Flanno. The board you're telling us knows what it's doing was going to appoint L plate Ryles.........

The rest of your defence of the boards apparent "holding people to account" here is unbelievably funny. Griffin was sacked - but 2 years too late - and let's face it - he should never have been appointed in the first place. We're still paying for the Griffin years and will continue to do so for at least another year or so until his woeful recruiting and losing culture is completely flushed out of the system. The same board who reluctantly sacked him (way too late) was dumb enough to appoint him AND then extend him when it was obvious to everyone he was woefully out of his depth. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable. They waited until we had one hand on the wooden spoon until they finally acted.
Prior to that we have McGregor. Another hilariously terrible appointment - same board. Just like Griffin, Mc Gregor was incompetent AND extended while the team went backwards down the ladder and lost its soul. And during this fall from grace our CEO famously gave McGregor a "pass mark" in a radio interview while we slumped down the ladder. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable.
Then you lose all credibility when you tell us Lawrie was an "undisputed starter". Only at the Dragons buddy. Only at the Dragons. Resigning Lawrie was typically lazy and inept Dragons business and is representative of why we were quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NRL - thankfully the Tigers were worse.

The signings we have made since Flanno arrived are courtesy of........Flanno. The board - and Haran and Millward - had nothing to do with it.

There is no reason yet to "give the club a break". They're one bad decision away from plonking us right back where we were under McGregor and Griffin. Hopefully the new CEO will help point us back in the right direction but let's wait and see.
 

blacksafake

First Grade
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It's only very very recently that the club has vaguely started making better management steps and to be honest it seems to driven more by Flanno than the board. And let's not forget we fluked into Flanno. The board you're telling us knows what it's doing was going to appoint L plate Ryles.........

The rest of your defence of the boards apparent "holding people to account" here is unbelievably funny. Griffin was sacked - but 2 years too late - and let's face it - he should never have been appointed in the first place. We're still paying for the Griffin years and will continue to do so for at least another year or so until his woeful recruiting and losing culture is completely flushed out of the system. The same board who reluctantly sacked him (way too late) was dumb enough to appoint him AND then extend him when it was obvious to everyone he was woefully out of his depth. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable. They waited until we had one hand on the wooden spoon until they finally acted.
Prior to that we have McGregor. Another hilariously terrible appointment - same board. Just like Griffin, Mc Gregor was incompetent AND extended while the team went backwards down the ladder and lost its soul. And during this fall from grace our CEO famously gave McGregor a "pass mark" in a radio interview while we slumped down the ladder. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable.
Then you lose all credibility when you tell us Lawrie was an "undisputed starter". Only at the Dragons buddy. Only at the Dragons. Resigning Lawrie was typically lazy and inept Dragons business and is representative of why we were quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NRL - thankfully the Tigers were worse.

The signings we have made since Flanno arrived are courtesy of........Flanno. The board - and Haran and Millward - had nothing to do with it.

There is no reason yet to "give the club a break". They're one bad decision away from plonking us right back where we were under McGregor and Griffin. Hopefully the new CEO will help point us back in the right direction but let's wait and see.
Post of the week
 

RedVee

First Grade
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It's only very very recently that the club has vaguely started making better management steps and to be honest it seems to driven more by Flanno than the board. And let's not forget we fluked into Flanno. The board you're telling us knows what it's doing was going to appoint L plate Ryles.........

The rest of your defence of the boards apparent "holding people to account" here is unbelievably funny. Griffin was sacked - but 2 years too late - and let's face it - he should never have been appointed in the first place. We're still paying for the Griffin years and will continue to do so for at least another year or so until his woeful recruiting and losing culture is completely flushed out of the system. The same board who reluctantly sacked him (way too late) was dumb enough to appoint him AND then extend him when it was obvious to everyone he was woefully out of his depth. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable. They waited until we had one hand on the wooden spoon until they finally acted.
Prior to that we have McGregor. Another hilariously terrible appointment - same board. Just like Griffin, Mc Gregor was incompetent AND extended while the team went backwards down the ladder and lost its soul. And during this fall from grace our CEO famously gave McGregor a "pass mark" in a radio interview while we slumped down the ladder. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable.
Then you lose all credibility when you tell us Lawrie was an "undisputed starter". Only at the Dragons buddy. Only at the Dragons. Resigning Lawrie was typically lazy and inept Dragons business and is representative of why we were quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NRL - thankfully the Tigers were worse.

The signings we have made since Flanno arrived are courtesy of........Flanno. The board - and Haran and Millward - had nothing to do with it.

There is no reason yet to "give the club a break". They're one bad decision away from plonking us right back where we were under McGregor and Griffin. Hopefully the new CEO will help point us back in the right direction but let's wait and see.
The board has changed some since those days.
I may be wrong but I think some of the changes are being driven by Lancaster as Chair. He seemed to have an ambition for the club that extended past “existing” & “Wollongong presence”. It was Lancaster with Ben Creagh that interviewed Flanno and pushed his appointment. We have all heard there were objections from the Doust corner.
 

since77

Bench
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The board has changed some since those days.
I may be wrong but I think some of the changes are being driven by Lancaster as Chair. He seemed to have an ambition for the club that extended past “existing” & “Wollongong presence”. It was Lancaster with Ben Creagh that interviewed Flanno and pushed his appointment. We have all heard there were objections from the Doust corner.
I agree that it is showing vague signs of maybe being capable of positive change. Occasionally Lancaster makes some encouraging noises. The new CEO might be a good thing. But it's too early to tell. And a lot of damage to fix.
As I said in my last post, the very last time their decision making prowess was openly tested they made a horrifyingly idiotic choice - Ryles - and fortunately for us, somehow did a Bradbury and fluked Flanno. It doesn't inspire confidence does it? When and if it becomes time to extend Flanno, will they stuff that up?
It's impossible for me to forget where 12 years of mismanagement got us to and how long it will take to reverse.
 

Draginzaaar

Bench
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It's only very very recently that the club has vaguely started making better management steps and to be honest it seems to driven more by Flanno than the board. And let's not forget we fluked into Flanno. The board you're telling us knows what it's doing was going to appoint L plate Ryles.........

The rest of your defence of the boards apparent "holding people to account" here is unbelievably funny. Griffin was sacked - but 2 years too late - and let's face it - he should never have been appointed in the first place. We're still paying for the Griffin years and will continue to do so for at least another year or so until his woeful recruiting and losing culture is completely flushed out of the system. The same board who reluctantly sacked him (way too late) was dumb enough to appoint him AND then extend him when it was obvious to everyone he was woefully out of his depth. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable. They waited until we had one hand on the wooden spoon until they finally acted.
Prior to that we have McGregor. Another hilariously terrible appointment - same board. Just like Griffin, Mc Gregor was incompetent AND extended while the team went backwards down the ladder and lost its soul. And during this fall from grace our CEO famously gave McGregor a "pass mark" in a radio interview while we slumped down the ladder. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable.
Then you lose all credibility when you tell us Lawrie was an "undisputed starter". Only at the Dragons buddy. Only at the Dragons. Resigning Lawrie was typically lazy and inept Dragons business and is representative of why we were quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NRL - thankfully the Tigers were worse.

The signings we have made since Flanno arrived are courtesy of........Flanno. The board - and Haran and Millward - had nothing to do with it.

There is no reason yet to "give the club a break". They're one bad decision away from plonking us right back where we were under McGregor and Griffin. Hopefully the new CEO will help point us back in the right direction but let's wait and see.
McGregor made the semis twice, which is better than anyone since Bennett.
 

Dragsters

First Grade
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Acc

According to Instagram, Ravalawa is completing a medical with Souths this week.
Flanagan continuing to work the phones and bring in some new forwards.
Thinking there will be one more to be added along with Klemmer.
Also hoping we extend Finau Latu soon as well.
Agree, I thought Latu showed promise in last week's match.

I haven't seen a lot of him but in the immortal words of Kath Day-Knight "I like what I see"...
 

Mojo

Bench
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The board has changed some since those days.
I may be wrong but I think some of the changes are being driven by Lancaster as Chair. He seemed to have an ambition for the club that extended past “existing” & “Wollongong presence”. It was Lancaster with Ben Creagh that interviewed Flanno and pushed his appointment. We have all heard there were objections from the Doust corner.
Agree. Change of Chairman and the term of Chairman's tenure was vitally important. I've always said that organisations take on the personality of the person at the top. It's virtually impossible to improve the fitness of a body if the head is sick - and vice-a-versa.
 

Auntie.Gerald

First Grade
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Rava -> souths effective immediately
Klemmer -> Us effective immediately
Halangahu resigns until 2027
Molo potentially to Roosters

all according to Tele
So if we were short a prop still prior to the crap happening ie we were still after one as at Dec 2024

Molo moves on
Molo moves on
Klem in
Ryan Couchmen who could play both middle and edge

Are we now 3 middles out and 1 middle in therefore still need 3 more middles because we were already still after another middle ie Flano saying that Dec 2024 in the media

I mean realistically if Egan, Halangahu, Tsougranis and Latu keep on the right track for a bench spot....... they were making Ryan Couchmen a middle anyway which is his true role.

Top30 for 2025 under construction:

Klem
middle? for Fmolo
middle? for MMolo
middle? ie the one we have been talking about that we hadnt added to the top30 as yet (Flano mentione in Dec 2024)
 

Unsainty79

Juniors
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It's only very very recently that the club has vaguely started making better management steps and to be honest it seems to driven more by Flanno than the board. And let's not forget we fluked into Flanno. The board you're telling us knows what it's doing was going to appoint L plate Ryles.........

The rest of your defence of the boards apparent "holding people to account" here is unbelievably funny. Griffin was sacked - but 2 years too late - and let's face it - he should never have been appointed in the first place. We're still paying for the Griffin years and will continue to do so for at least another year or so until his woeful recruiting and losing culture is completely flushed out of the system. The same board who reluctantly sacked him (way too late) was dumb enough to appoint him AND then extend him when it was obvious to everyone he was woefully out of his depth. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable. They waited until we had one hand on the wooden spoon until they finally acted.
Prior to that we have McGregor. Another hilariously terrible appointment - same board. Just like Griffin, Mc Gregor was incompetent AND extended while the team went backwards down the ladder and lost its soul. And during this fall from grace our CEO famously gave McGregor a "pass mark" in a radio interview while we slumped down the ladder. Don't tell me this board holds people accountable.
Then you lose all credibility when you tell us Lawrie was an "undisputed starter". Only at the Dragons buddy. Only at the Dragons. Resigning Lawrie was typically lazy and inept Dragons business and is representative of why we were quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NRL - thankfully the Tigers were worse.

The signings we have made since Flanno arrived are courtesy of........Flanno. The board - and Haran and Millward - had nothing to do with it.

I’ve said it before and will say it again, at the time Lawrie was one of our better forwards and a young local junior. Sure that it probably an indictment of our poor squad, but the decision to resign him was absolutely the correct one at the time. At the time of his resigned De Belin was one year back, and looked a shadow of his former self, Su’a wanted out and Molo had an underwhelming season.

The rule changes to the game have found out Lawrie big time. Ultimately, though, Flanagan picked him last year and it looks increasingly likely he will do so again this year.

How could you possible deduce that all signings are only due to Flanagan? Have you just made that up entirely?

Whether you like it or not, the board has had personnel change and with Lancaster/WIN as chair the balance of power has swung back toward Win, given theyre the tie breaker vote. Webb has been been moved on proactively and we have a new CEO

You seem to be harbouring issues from the past. Ultimately, we now have Flanagan, a quality coach, we’ve signed some good players this year and have a very, very good bunch of juniors locked in.
 
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