The state of English Rugby League

[Ernest the Sheep]

I can only imagine the fine spirit that you would have had the boot been on the other foot. Still, if you believe the rest of the world is bias, that is up to you.

This is not entirely negative. The comparison to WWE may seem perjorative, but that is a wealthy sport with a good spread. Fixing the right results has an upside.

Furthermore, once the RFL accepted the conditions, which looked very dodgy from the start, there is little point in complaining afterwards. There is even less point in pretending it did not happen to equate whinging with not playing make-believe is infantile. However, if you accept playing with clipped cards, you have to just do your best to win with those clipped cards.

From an ARL point of view, that was the most crucial game in the Four Nations. Getting Australia in the final was crucial to the success as they saw it. It may be the only game that is necessary to so heavily diddle.

I think you would be better suited posting this to the david icke forums.

 

[league13]

Andy Wilson is just another pommy ponce talking outa his arse. Is there no end to the production line of pommy ponces? seriously, no wonder you poms have a massive chip on your shoulder if this is the crud you are fed. The hall try was never a try, not even in esl would it have been a try. Get your hands off it, and get your eye-sight tested![/

If anyone has a chip on their shoulder, it's you Aussies and you in particular to come up with a post like this.You Aussies have done some low things over the years.It would appear old habits die hard.

 

[Jack Deth]

Like it or not, when the aussies and the kiwis ganged up and out voted Jon Sharp to get home town refs for the last round it looked like a fix.

 

[deal.with.it]

What about that penalty try given to England in the 2011 (?) four nations? Pommy video ref

 

[Steve Davy]

If anyone has a chip on their shoulder, it's you Aussies and you in particular to come up with a post like this.You Aussies have done some low things over the years.It would appear old habits die hard.

It is not the Aussies. The ARL were the ones who insisted on the officiating. I recall the only time when I have seen a clearly fixed game, it was Porto vs Celtic (I am not Scottish or a Celtic fan). Some Porto fans celebrated their win enthusiastically and smugly, while others were rather abashed. On the internet, you only hear the loud ones full of certainty. Australians have the same concepts of cheating and fair play as the rest of us.

Had the boot been on the other foot, there would be embarrased poms and smug poms. This is on the ARL, Sutton was put in a terrible position as were the RFL. Calling out a nation is just a gross generalisation.

 

[Ernest the Sheep]

what on earth are you babbling on about? Are you delusional, gone senile perhaps? here's an idea, if you are so sure, present the evidence. Analyse all the penalties, and the times at which they occurred in the game, give us something we can debate rather than just whinging, otherwise it's just the usual pommy victim mentality. If we want to talk about cheating, go have a look at some tapes of the 2000 world cup, the cheating by the pommy video refs in that was insane, not just 50-50 calls, but 5-95 calls going in favour of the poms!!!!

 

[deluded pom?]

If we want to talk about cheating, go have a look at some tapes of the 2000 world cup, the cheating by the pommy video refs in that was insane, not just 50-50 calls, but 5-95 calls going in favour of the poms!!!!

I think you're losing it Ernie. Analyse all the penalties, and the times at which they occurred in the game, give us something we can debate rather than just whinging,

 

[Twatface Magee]

poms have lost the plot, their victim mentality, conspiracy theories, whinging, and even the fabricating of evidence to justify their whinging, would be hilarious if it wasn't so pitiful. That the nation that gave us Shakespeare and Beatles could be reduced to this pathetic turd heap should be a lesson for us all!!

Nothing new there.
There's no other country in the world who's fully grown adults whinge and cry and moan as much as England.
They probably think they were robbed in the Ashes despite being dominated 5-0.

 

[Bombay Devils RLFC]

Yes. I though it was rigged when the ref was sent in a few days before. I have always been quite clear with my answer to that.

Were it interpretation, then it would have been the same for both sides and in both halves.

Were it childish partiality, then it would have been the same in both halves.

If it was rigged, the game would initially be officiated fairly. Had Australia been in a commanding position, it would continue to be officiated fairly and people kicking up a fuss about the ref would be dismissed as having been shown to be paranoid. However, if Australia looked like winning, then there would be penalties given in key positions to get them back in the game. If they still looked like losing, then increasing dodgy calls would happen. Had England made fewer mistakes, they would have had more penalties against them. I said this before the game and it is exactly what happened. The view where I am in Europe (not the UK) is broadly this, the views I know of in England are that the ARL cheated.

Imagine the ARL are doing what is best for the international game and the entire point of the international game in their eyes is:
- To demonstrate ARL superiority
- To raise money
A final with England vs New Zealand would undermine both those point and (to them) undermine the entire point of the Four Nations. Therefore, they did what was best for the international game in their eyes.

The belief is that I am being very one-eyed. However, that also means neutrals were being one-eyed and that it is pretty much only Australians who are impartial on the game. That is silly.

You may find it a shame I think this way, but I find it a shame that a major game was fixed and that few Australians are willing to hold them to account.

Or maybe Australia has superior quality players such as Greg Inglis, Cameron Smith and Michael Jennings.

Steve your comments are really poor and really show up as a sore loser rather than looking at the game objectively. You may not live in England but you are from there so to suggest any non allegiance is simply not true.

If you feel some decisions did not go England's way then nearly every game would be considered a fixed.

Again what happens if England makes the final as from what you are saying above it is all about a NZ v Kangaroos game. Will you final accept that you are wrong?

 

[LeedsStorm]

Nothing new there.
There's no other country in the world who's fully grown adults whinge and cry and moan as much as England.
They probably think they were robbed in the Ashes despite being dominated 5-0.

Only bloke whinging on sunday was Cameron Smith. Loves a whiny moan in the refs ear does cammy.

 

[roughyedspud]

and sheens whinging about a fictional chicken wing lol

 

[LeedsStorm]

and sheens whinging about a fictional chicken wing lol

That's particularly bad form actually. Bulldog Wane does it after Wigan games too. Coaches should never have a say on potential suspensions until after judiciary have met. Simples

 

[Twatface Magee]

Only bloke whinging on sunday was Cameron Smith. Loves a whiny moan in the refs ear does cammy.

Lol you're a bit special aren't you.
Have a look through the match day thread if you want to see what whinging looks like.
Then again you're a Pom so you see it every day.
I hear england flooded from all the tears after the game.

"But, but, Hall's finger, but, but Australian referee, but, but conspiracy!"

 

[LeedsStorm]

At this juncture, it's probably safe to say comedy isn't Australia's strong point either.

 

[some11]

At this juncture, it's probably safe to say comedy isn't Australia's strong point either.

I have to say, it's pretty funny when this Aussie team beats you.

 

[Ernest the Sheep]

It's pretty bloody funny how every single pom thinks that was a try. It's like mass hysteria, or delusion, or something? Although the poms seem to be susceptible to a bit of mass hysteria if the Jimmy Savile revelations are anything to go by. Is there not one pom somewhere who thinks that it wasn't a try, just one, that's all I ask!!

 

[LeagueXIII]

Do Australian's think Jennings try was a try?

Because what I could see he dropped it.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Thought this thread was going to die a quick death cause started off pretty slow, glad to see it's picked up a bit and got a second breath.

Fascinating stuff

 

[Twatface Magee]

Do Australian's think Jennings try was a try?

Because what I could see he dropped it.

To answer part one of your question, yes.

To answer part two.

 

[byrner]

Again, you are pretending it is just poms. I do not live in England, most of the people I spoke with who watched the game were not English. Yet, I have not spoken with anyone who did not find the officiating dodgy in the extreme.

Where do you live?
How many people have you spoken with?
And do the people you have spoken with actually know the rules of the game.

I am an Aussie, I thought it was a try. But there is no way in hell it was fixed. Go and put your tinefoil hat on.