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The Steve Kearney Thread

Suitman

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No worries.
I blame alchohol.
Under those circumstances, it's understandable.
Just surprised when I read it and no one else had jumped on it.
Spose there's too much other whinging going on, but as I said, I've only just got back on line after spending an hour trying to calm down before posting after that dismal effort tonight.


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there are 2 types of players in the NRL, ones that when the going gets tough in a game they turn it up a notch and play harder and faster and try get thier team back into it and ones that when the going gets tough they just sit back and hope someone else will do thier job for them. Our club has a lot of those in the 2nd category and have had for some time. Players who were told after a loss that " Good effort, nice try" or " we're close to where we want to be, so keep it up".
Too many pats on the back regardless of the results and so the fall into the comfort zone, after all it's a job and if your bosses keep telling your doing a good job you won't lift you'll just keep doing the same and think your job is safe.
This has been going on at our club for over 20years and won't be fixed in 5mins it will take years and a lot of new personel to change this.
Brian Smith was turning things around and we were getting there but he was punted and he hadn't got to the juniors ranks yet to get the message across to them that near enough wasn't go enough. Hagan was just too nice to stick it up players and Ando had been in our systems before and just did what he knew from then.
SK is changing things, he's upset a few people and fans along the way but in the long run this club will get rid of that soft underbelly and near enough attitude.
We just have to be patient and wait for it to turn, the bandwagoners will disappear but we don't need them we need passionate fans they will support the changes and back the club.
 

Hanscholo

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Im not sure why a big club like parra would ever have a first year coach. Let crap clubs run first year coaches, parra should be able to pay good money for the best. You buy proven coaches, you let poor clubs take risks on rookies. I think getting rid of that fool osbourne was a vital first step, but youve gotta make plans for the future, kearney has shown me without a shadow of a doubt that he has no idea.

You guys bought kearney on the rumour that he was a good coach, /facepalm. Being a national coach or asst coach doesnt prepare you for coaching first grade. You can only get that experience and prove yourself on the job. So why would u ever want to risk that?
 

Suitman

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Im not sure why a big club like parra would ever have a first year coach. Let crap clubs run first year coaches, parra should be able to pay good money for the best. You buy proven coaches, you let poor clubs take risks on rookies. I think getting rid of that fool osbourne was a vital first step, but youve gotta make plans for the future, kearney has shown me without a shadow of a doubt that he has no idea.

You guys bought kearney on the rumour that he was a good coach, /facepalm. Being a national coach or asst coach doesnt prepare you for coaching first grade. You can only get that experience and prove yourself on the job. So why would u ever want to risk that?

It all comes down to who is available at the time.
Anderson was hopeless.
We took what we thought was the best at the time.
It may, or may not, work out.
I'm still not calling it.

Suity
 

born an eel

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It all comes down to who is available at the time.
Anderson was hopeless.
We took what we thought was the best at the time.
It may, or may not, work out.
I'm still not calling it.

Suity
i call bullsh1t,
we had a coach under contract, we didn't need to react then we could have looked to the future.

This has to be the turning point, we must have hit rock bottom now.
 

Suitman

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i call bullsh1t,
we had a coach under contract, we didn't need to react then we could have looked to the future.

This has to be the turning point, we must have hit rock bottom now.

I don't call bullshit. I do however agree, that tonight we hit rock bottom.
If things spiral down from here, I'll agree that we have made a poor decision regarding Kearney.
Happy to admit we were wrong if that happens but also not happy IF it happens.
I have hope. I like Kearney's demeanor. I like his cool, calm collective reactions to difficult times. I'm prepared to give him time. But I'm also not prepared to give him life. I wanted to throw my f**king stubby at the tele tonight, such was my frustration at our pathetically inept performance.

Suity
 

born an eel

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he has 18 months to show his worth,
I have not seen anything on the field to show his worth but we should see out his contract.
If we do not show improvement by the end of the season we should be investigating who will be available in 2014 before looking at his contract.
 

Suitman

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he has 18 months to show his worth,
I have not seen anything on the field to show his worth but we should see out his contract.
If we do not show improvement by the end of the season we should be investigating who will be available in 2014 before looking at his contract.

Me too thinks that.
I have more hope for his outlook however than I did with Anderson.
He may though, let me down. I hope he doesn't. Just like I hoped Anderson, Hagan, Taylor etc ..... didn't.

Suity
 

Eels Dude

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i call bullsh1t,
we had a coach under contract, we didn't need to react then we could have looked to the future.

This has to be the turning point, we must have hit rock bottom now.

That's true. If we had let DA see out his contract, we could have made a play for Bennett or Hasler for this year, or even Cleary for 2012. Instead we jumped the gun by sacking DA mid contract and hiring someone who isn't really qualified to replace him when there were much better options on the market in a years time.
 

Suitman

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That's true. If we had let DA see out his contract, we could have made a play for Bennett or Hasler for this year, or even Cleary for 2012. Instead we jumped the gun by sacking DA mid contract and hiring someone who isn't really qualified to replace him when there were much better options on the market in a years time.

What's done is done; Idiot.
What's the point in this type of discussion.
Let's talk about what we have.

Suity
 

natheel

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yeh, alot of fans wrote him off by august last year and more are writing him off still. me? i'm sitting on the fence still. i'll see where we are at in terms of

a. performance
b. recruitment
c. player confidence and happiness (you can gauge this with performances imo)

i still think Kearney needs time, he still has players he is probably waiting to be off contract at the end of this year he wants to move along...Poore for example.
 

yy_cheng

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I am not sold on kearney just yet. Tbh none of the current crop of players have improved since he has taken over bar hayne. Mannah has improved but i think that was natural progression.

I am not convinced about his coaching of nz either and back to parra, his win loss ratio is terrible.

I think da took the wrong option. He had a winning formula and had to tweak it with some srructure but in 2010 he went kearney and tried to play full structure untill it was too late to run to the finals and went back to adlib.
 

Eels Dude

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What's done is done; Idiot.
What's the point in this type of discussion.
Let's talk about what we have.

Suity

The point is learning from mistakes; Idiot.
Making a rash decision in re-signing Sk is no different to making a rash decision to sack DA.
So this time the club should think things through and consider what coaches could/ would be available in 2014 before jumping the gun and extending Kearney's contract already.
 

IFR33K

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What, speaking some truth, that other's do not like hearing?

That's fine. I'm better looking than him though.

Suity


From what I hear, you may also be a little smarter than him too.

Not his fault though, I believe he was born with a condition.
 

IFR33K

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The point is learning from mistakes; Idiot.
Making a rash decision in re-signing Sk is no different to making a rash decision to sack DA.
So this time the club should think things through and consider what coaches could/ would be available in 2014 before jumping the gun and extending Kearney's contract already.


I agree with eels dude. I believe we panicked in 2010, and made a rash decision, regarding our coach.

If the board has learnt anything, they will hold off on resigning SK, until we start seeing results.

I dare say, if they do extend his stay, than they are probably sealing their own fate. Tough decisions to be made.
 

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