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The T.V Rights Thread Part III

How much will the Total Broadcast Rights Deal be?


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Brutus

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I think once we see the new deal, it will further emphasise the disgrace that was the last deal.
 

docbrown

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http://www.bizreview.com.au/p/technology/get_ready_for_pay_tv_fight_over_cr3w1afeFOTkhRtr7WGyVL

Get ready for pay TV fight over sport

PUBLISHED: 11 hours 20 MINUTES AGO | UPDATE: 6 hours 18 MINUTES AGO PUBLISHED: 25 Jun 2012 PRINT EDITION: 25 Jun 2012

The battle for control of James Packer’s Consolidated Media Holdings will capture all the attention this week but the potential for seismic shifts in Australia’s pay television and broadband markets does not depend entirely on the future of Foxtel.
Optus is planning its own initiatives with MeTV, which operates on the FetchTV platform, and offers entry-level prices as low as $10 a month. It recently signalled its intent when it launched Australia’s first mobile-led bundle, which offers generous amounts of free fixed-line broadband, without the need for a landline.
Fetch doesn’t have access to the jewel in Foxtel’s crown – premium sport – but that doesn’t mean it won’t in the not too distant future. At 30 per cent of households, Australia has the lowest subscription television penetration rate in the developed world. That’s at odds with the voracious consumption of every other form of entertainment. And Foxtel’s average revenue per user (ARPU) of $100 a month is one of the world’s highest.
One way for Foxtel to generate growth without sacrificing ARPU is to bundle additional services into subscriptions, the most obvious being broadband. This strategy has proven wildly successful elsewhere, notably Britain, where BSkyB (40 per cent owned by News Corp) has usurped the incumbent telco BT Group to become dominant in broadband.
If News chief Kim Williams and Foxtel boss Richard Freudenstein were able to replicate BSkyB’s success with Foxtel, it could make $2 billion look like a steal, but such a move would require a level of unprecedented concessions from Telstra. Contrary to conventional wisdom, Foxtel is not blocked from selling broadband by its 50 per cent shareholder, although it can be assumed the telco charges Foxtel the kind of prices to run broadband over its cable network that make it difficult to do so cheaply.
This could change if News Ltd’s $2 billion bid for ConsMedia is successful, making News and Telstra joint venture partners in Foxtel and giving News complete ownership of Fox Sports, which could be a powerful bargaining chip in dealing with the telco. Sport is going to be more important as super fast speeds become the norm under the national broadband network and 4G mobile.
BSkyB’s success was based on its exclusive rights to English Premier League matches. Its dominance of broadband prompted the British regulator, OFcom, to force it to open up its Sky Sports 1 and 2 channels to wholesale access. That did not reduce the value of those sporting rights either. Barely a fortnight ago, the EPL rights were renewed for a record £3 billion ($4.6 billion), up a staggering £1.25 billion from the previous deal.
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims made it clear he has deep concerns about the concentration of sports rights when he (begrudgingly) approved Foxtel’s takeover of Austar. It is only a matter of time before the issue resurfaces.
 

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http://www.bizreview.com.au/p/busin...s_up_bid_for_dominance_bsDZiV2ZvfbXzCabmWriVJ

Optus ramps up bid for dominance

PUBLISHED: 11 hours 35 MINUTES AGO | UPDATE: 0 hour 10 MINUTES AGO PUBLISHED: 25 Jun 2012 PRINT EDITION: 25 Jun 2012

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Optus is preparing to double its spending to $2 billion over the next two years as it launches an offensive in the 4G arms race and aims to build a network that will catapult it ahead of Telstra for the first time.
 

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Well hears some proof that Telstra dramatically underpaid for naming rights.

They paid 10 million for six years at $1.6 million a year.

Hyundai paid the A-League 6 million for four years at $1.5 million a year.
 

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Well hears some proof that Telstra dramatically underpaid for naming rights.

They paid 10 million for six years at $1.6 million a year.

Hyundai paid the A-League 6 million for four years at $1.5 million a year.

It was $90 million for six years...
 

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Didnt this amount also include Mobile phone and Internet rights?

Again, something that was sold too cheap the last time....

Yes and that is what made it a terrible deal. Around the same time AFL got $10mill a year just for the naming rights, then $15mill a year for internet rights. The whole Testra/News Ltd/Ch9 cartel screwed us again!
 

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Rinehart, Murdoch lift stake in Ten
By a staff reporter, with AAP

Major Ten Network Holdings Ltd shareholders Gina Rinehart and Lachlan Murdoch have lifted their stake in the media company.
Statements to the Australian Securities Exchange from Ten showed both shareholders bought more stock in the group on June 19.
Mrs Rinehart made the move acting through Hanrine Investments Pty Ltd, a company wholly owned by Hancock Prospecting. Mrs Rinehart holds a controlling interest in Hancock.
The mining magnate bought an extra 39.2 million shares in Ten for $19.99 million.The move lifts her total stake to 143.72 million, about 10.6 per cent.
Mr Murdoch, who serves as chairman on Ten's board, lifted his total stake from 186.84 million shares to 256.91 million.
He bought the shares in two lots through two separate companies.
Illyria Nominees Television, acting as trustee for the Illyria Investment Trust No. 4, bought 35.03 million shares.
Cavalane Holdings also bought 35.03 million shares.
The share sale deed gives Illyria a relevant interest in the shares in Ten Network Holdings Limited held by Cavalane as the parties propose to act in concert in relation to the exercise of votes attached to their shares," Ten said in documents handed to the Australian Securities Exchange.
"Mr Murdoch has a relevant interest in the shares in Ten Network Holdings Limited held by Cavalane as he controls Illyria."
The move comes just weeks after Ten raised $200 million to strengthen its balance sheet through the offer of new shares to existing shareholders.
Mrs Rinehart, along with four other major shareholders, took up their full entitlements of new shares under the offer.
Separately, reports suggest Mrs Rinehart may sell her major stake in Fairfax Media Ltd if she is not granted seats on the Fairfax board "without unsuitable conditions".
Ms Rinehart owns an 18.7 per cent stake in Fairfax.
http://www.businessspectator.com.au...-in-Ten-pd20120626-VLV29?OpenDocument&src=hp1
 

Chook Norris

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Roy has been sprouting some alzheimers-worthy shit lately. He sounds as clueless as the Auskick trolls

I haven't followed this discussion that much or watched Roy's segment just then, but why is this? What did he say for you to think that he's sprouting bullshit? Or do we classify it bullshit because it sounds negative for the NRL's tv rights.. and we refuse to believe it true?
 

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I haven't followed this discussion that much or watched Roy's segment just then, but why is this? What did he say for you to think that he's sprouting bullshit? Or do we classify it bullshit because it sounds negative for the NRL's tv rights.. and we refuse to believe it true?

well not long ago Roy was saying 9 and Fox wouldn't lowball http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...p-12b-from-tv-rights-deal-20120412-1wwnz.html

he keeps changing his mind although he did claim to have emails from Fox and 9 that backed up his story
 

Karl

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Lowballing is risky for 9 with the ability to lose this "Last bite of the Cherry" right the reports say they have if a competitive bid comes in 20% above their offer. Its not unreasonable to assume that they would want to preserve that right and not play Russian Roulette with Seven/Ten gazumping them by the requisite amount and with promises of better coverage, more live games on FTA etc etc.

I wonder if the people at 9 realise that they may have severely damaged some bridges with the NRL and possibly made them far more open to competitive bids for reasons that go beyond just the Cash on offer. How do you value other more qualitative aspects of the bids like quality and extent of game coverage, dedicated non-game coverage and content etc?

Maybe for a few less dollars upfront, some aspects of the competitive bids add more value to the game over the term of the rights. The Money is important, but if it's close, other things, including the NRL's feelings about how they have been treated over the last 5 years by Nine, may well weigh into the considerations.
 
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Brutus

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Maybe 10 know what 9 bid the first time...Fox Sports...L. Murdoch, Gyng, Packer..

They're all mates aren't they?
 

Ray Mosters

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Maybe 10 know what 9 bid the first time...Fox Sports...L. Murdoch, Gyng, Packer..

They're all mates aren't they?
I would suggest that they can find out what 9 bid by asking the NRL bid team what they need to beat.

Its not a silent auction, and the blackout of information extends to the media and public, not bid participants.

10 would know all the details of the early bids, im guessing.
 

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I would suggest that they can find out what 9 bid by asking the NRL bid team what they need to beat.

Its not a silent auction, and the blackout of information extends to the media and public, not bid participants.

10 would know all the details of the early bids, im guessing.

That can't be right. What would be the point of first and last rights if 10 and 7 knew what it would take to beat 9?
 
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