Stan Dabovetherest
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Hi Rabbits20,
I am going to share with you some very personal details about my life and my family.
I was raised in a Pentecostal Christian household where Church and associated activities dominated the first 15 years of my life. Over those years, we spent approximately 20 hours a week engaged in Church activities, Church Services, Bible Study, Prayer Group, Youth Group etc. There was no day of the week that was not focussed around Church.
I have two younger brothers. Both of them are gay. Neither of them were able to acknowledge this until their twenties due to the pressure and expectations they felt. One of them was in fact a youth pastor and once preached to 40,000+ people at a Hillsong Convention at Olympic Stadium.
As you can imagine, accepting and coming to terms with who they are as people was extremely difficult for both my brothers. Coming out to not only their family, but also their friends was something that was obviously extremely confronting. I know that at least one of them considered suicide as a viable option to owning who they were.
I love both my brothers unreservedly. I have so much respect for the many challenges they have overcome to become the inspirational men that they are today. I do not know how I would have responded to the many and varied obstacles they have faced. But if I did it half as well as them, I would be very surprised.
I am 100% sure neither of them are paedophiles.
Last year someone on here posted this:
"I pray for all the defenseless children with no say at all living queerly in a homosexual household how insane is that?? i thank god that i had a mother and a father up bringing, Sadly for a baby/child to be brought up by 2 gay men or by 2 gay woman is utterly utterly utterly sickening to say the least and goes against the normality of humanity of mankind its just criminal. At least russia has it right BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO Mr Vladamir Putin is against gay marriage and has outlawed it in Russia WOW what a stand up guy he is BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO TAKE A BOW SIR F A C T...Shadow... "
And this:
"I dont care if gays get married but its not a normal marriage if you think 2 gays vs mum and dad are equal in marriage as a family unit seek help ASAP...
My only point is that gays should never ever be nowhere near a baby or near a young child or near a teenager, gays are sexual predators and should never be near children whom sadly cant speak out for themselves SHAME ON YOU THE GOVERNMENTS FOR PASSING THIS UTTERLY SICKENING ACT UPON OUR DEFENSELESS LITTLE ONES YOUR AS SICK AS THE GAYS ....
Tell me what baby at birth or a young adopted child would want to live in a gay household?? If they could only speak out they would definitely prefer a mother and a father thats only natural the woman gives birth...
And lastly the gay marriage vote will sadly win i predict all i can say is GOD HELP THE LITTLE CHILDREN ""AMEN""...Shadow... "
You liked both posts, and quoted the second one. You led off with "Bravo, Bravo....."
I doubt that you have ever met either of my brothers, but as I have stated elsewhere they are both exceptional human beings. For you to condemn them as paedophiles, solely based on the fact that they were born gay, makes me want to despise you. I am hoping we can change this.
To be clear, unlike others I have no issue with someone like Israel Folau saying that all gay people will go to hell. Me and my brothers were all taught this growing up. As traumatic as it was for them to reconcile their own Homosexuality with this belief, I respect the right of people to have their own religious beliefs and share them with others. I am even aware that in some religions you may be taught that you have an obligation to share your beliefs, as Israel has done.
I have read the Bible more than once, and in different versions. Most versions clearly state or imply that all gay people will go to hell. I have been yet to come across a verse that says all gay people are paedophiles. If you have such a link please share.
It is hard to explain the emotions that I feel when you endorse the sentiment that both my brothers are paedophiles. Perhaps the best way would be to give you an example that you can relate to.
I have seen you talk fondly of your father and sister on this site.
Imagine if one of the Tigers, Roosters or Dragons fans on here that you despise, posted that your father and sister were paedophiles. Imagine again that I not only liked their posts, but also applauded them by responding with "Bravo, Bravo", even though I have never met either of them.
How you would feel if I did that, is how I feel towards you at the moment.
Anyway my question is : Do you stand by your previous assertion that both my brothers (and numerous friends) are paedophiles?
Please do not see this as an attack, I am trying to find a way to treat you with respect, and I hope this can help you understand why I presently have none for you.
Cheers Stan.
I am going to share with you some very personal details about my life and my family.
I was raised in a Pentecostal Christian household where Church and associated activities dominated the first 15 years of my life. Over those years, we spent approximately 20 hours a week engaged in Church activities, Church Services, Bible Study, Prayer Group, Youth Group etc. There was no day of the week that was not focussed around Church.
I have two younger brothers. Both of them are gay. Neither of them were able to acknowledge this until their twenties due to the pressure and expectations they felt. One of them was in fact a youth pastor and once preached to 40,000+ people at a Hillsong Convention at Olympic Stadium.
As you can imagine, accepting and coming to terms with who they are as people was extremely difficult for both my brothers. Coming out to not only their family, but also their friends was something that was obviously extremely confronting. I know that at least one of them considered suicide as a viable option to owning who they were.
I love both my brothers unreservedly. I have so much respect for the many challenges they have overcome to become the inspirational men that they are today. I do not know how I would have responded to the many and varied obstacles they have faced. But if I did it half as well as them, I would be very surprised.
I am 100% sure neither of them are paedophiles.
Last year someone on here posted this:
"I pray for all the defenseless children with no say at all living queerly in a homosexual household how insane is that?? i thank god that i had a mother and a father up bringing, Sadly for a baby/child to be brought up by 2 gay men or by 2 gay woman is utterly utterly utterly sickening to say the least and goes against the normality of humanity of mankind its just criminal. At least russia has it right BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO Mr Vladamir Putin is against gay marriage and has outlawed it in Russia WOW what a stand up guy he is BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO TAKE A BOW SIR F A C T...Shadow... "
And this:
"I dont care if gays get married but its not a normal marriage if you think 2 gays vs mum and dad are equal in marriage as a family unit seek help ASAP...
My only point is that gays should never ever be nowhere near a baby or near a young child or near a teenager, gays are sexual predators and should never be near children whom sadly cant speak out for themselves SHAME ON YOU THE GOVERNMENTS FOR PASSING THIS UTTERLY SICKENING ACT UPON OUR DEFENSELESS LITTLE ONES YOUR AS SICK AS THE GAYS ....
Tell me what baby at birth or a young adopted child would want to live in a gay household?? If they could only speak out they would definitely prefer a mother and a father thats only natural the woman gives birth...
And lastly the gay marriage vote will sadly win i predict all i can say is GOD HELP THE LITTLE CHILDREN ""AMEN""...Shadow... "
You liked both posts, and quoted the second one. You led off with "Bravo, Bravo....."
I doubt that you have ever met either of my brothers, but as I have stated elsewhere they are both exceptional human beings. For you to condemn them as paedophiles, solely based on the fact that they were born gay, makes me want to despise you. I am hoping we can change this.
To be clear, unlike others I have no issue with someone like Israel Folau saying that all gay people will go to hell. Me and my brothers were all taught this growing up. As traumatic as it was for them to reconcile their own Homosexuality with this belief, I respect the right of people to have their own religious beliefs and share them with others. I am even aware that in some religions you may be taught that you have an obligation to share your beliefs, as Israel has done.
I have read the Bible more than once, and in different versions. Most versions clearly state or imply that all gay people will go to hell. I have been yet to come across a verse that says all gay people are paedophiles. If you have such a link please share.
It is hard to explain the emotions that I feel when you endorse the sentiment that both my brothers are paedophiles. Perhaps the best way would be to give you an example that you can relate to.
I have seen you talk fondly of your father and sister on this site.
Imagine if one of the Tigers, Roosters or Dragons fans on here that you despise, posted that your father and sister were paedophiles. Imagine again that I not only liked their posts, but also applauded them by responding with "Bravo, Bravo", even though I have never met either of them.
How you would feel if I did that, is how I feel towards you at the moment.
Anyway my question is : Do you stand by your previous assertion that both my brothers (and numerous friends) are paedophiles?
Please do not see this as an attack, I am trying to find a way to treat you with respect, and I hope this can help you understand why I presently have none for you.
Cheers Stan.
Nice try mace. But think these guys are too young for a “Cool Hand Luke” reference. One of my all time favs. 
That's such a good point 
