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The TV rights thread

Who would you like to see get the rights providing the price is right?

  • Seven

    Votes: 57 20.5%
  • Nine

    Votes: 49 17.6%
  • Ten

    Votes: 110 39.6%
  • Rights split between FTA channels

    Votes: 147 52.9%

  • Total voters
    278
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bobmar28

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South of 800 million is where they are now. I was wondering why it was taking so long. That would explain the delay. The point is if nobody is willing to bid more, 800 mill is all they will get.
 

Noa

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The reason Andy has been pushing so hard for 1 billion cash is because of all the monetary hand-outs they (i.e. him) have committed too.

Contra wont fund GWS, CG or club deficits in Melbourne (theres 3 or 4 atm all putting there hands out for about 20 million combined).

Good times the next few years i think.
 

El Diablo

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Leila McKinnon has started writing a weekly Friday column for NRL.com.

Geez I hope this isn't a bad sign, because she is married to the pr**k David Gyngell who ripped off the NRL by paying such a low fee for the free-to-air TV rights. He is also the ass that treats League coverage like crap on his TV network.

http://www.nrl.com/leila-mckinnon-friday-on-my-mind/tabid/10874/newsid/61746/default.aspx

the other wanker from Melbourne is now CEO and he used to work for the AFL
 

Nerd

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Not a fat bertha's chance of the AFL deal being south of 800 million. I hope the NRL finally get's the deal it deserves, David Gallop should resign if he agrees to anything less than 900 million.
I am not sure either code's deal will breach the billion mark but I would wager the AFL has the better chance.
Having the business section of the media discussing a sub $800 million deal for fumbeball would seem to disagree with your opinion.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...l-audience-claim/story-e6frg996-1226025045416

NRL disputes AFL audience claim

* Simon Canning
* From: The Australian
* March 21, 2011 12:00AM

A FIERCE battle over audience figures has broken out between Australia's two biggest football codes as they gear up for broadcasting rights negotiations.

The National Rugby League has moved to shoot down claims published last week that the Australian Football League was the most-watched football code in Australia.

A press report claimed the AFL was the most watched sport on TV, with an average of 14.64 million viewers per club over the course of a season.

This compared with the NRL's average audience if 13.81 million per club, the report said.

While the AFL was keen to talk up its audience numbers, the same report revealed that the NRL outpaced the AFL in cumulative audience across the entire season by more than 9 million viewers.

"Overall, the NRL delivered a total cumulative audience of 120.6 million across all coverage compared to the 111.1 million for the AFL," the report said.

While the AFL claimed, on a club-by-club basis, that it was ahead of its rival, the NRL also finished ahead in terms of average audience by fixture, with an audience of 1.01 million on free-to-air TV compared with 884,000 for the AFL.

The report comes at a critical time for both codes, which are in the midst of rights negotiations with commercial broadcasters and Foxtel.

The AFL talks are understood to be more advanced, but all parties are waiting on the communications minister to finalise anti-siphoning rules that will decide the mechanism that divides sports rights between pay-TV and free-to-air television.

The NRL negotiations will begin in earnest once the new governing structure of the NRL is bedded down following News Limited's (publisher of The Australian) exit.

Both codes are aiming for multi-year deals worth close $1 billion each.

The NRL rights split between the Nine Network and Foxtel commanded an estimated $500 million when they were last negotiated in 2006. At the same time the AFL was worth $780m, split between Seven and Ten.

The figures also show that the NRL attracted 241,000 viewers on Fox Sports for each fixture, compared with the AFL, which drew 170,000.

While the AFL had used the report to talk up its value to sponsors, it is believed the NRL will use it as a cornerstone in its push for a boost in the price it extracts for its broadcast rights when negotiations begin later this year.

Shane Mattiske, the NRL's director of strategic projects, said the report had reinforced the NRL's dominance on pay-TV ahead of the negotiations.

"If the AFL is going to get a lift out of Foxtel, it means we are going to have to get an even greater lift given how critical we are to Foxtel," he said. "In 2010, we had 73 of the top 100 programs on Foxtel and the AFL only made eight."

Mr Mattiske said there was little understanding of the NRL's dominance of the pay-TV sector in the broader community .

"If pay-TV lost rugby league in the crucial markets of NSW and Queensland, then it would have dire effects. They just simply cannot afford to lose us," he said.

Last week, Fox Sports Monday Night Football broadcast set a new record for the broadcaster with an average of 365,000 viewers tuning in to the clash between the Bulldogs and Tigers.

"It positions us very strongly when you come to think about the next round of media rights," Mr Mattiske said.

The report found that while the AFL delivered a higher free-to-air cumulative audience when the grand final replay was taken into account, without the replay the NRL triumphed.

Collingwood proved the most popular club across the board with a cumulative audience of just over 23 million, only narrowly defeating the St George Dragons when the grand final replay was discounted.

Two weeks ago, Foxtel chief executive Kim Williams told The Australian and Deutsche Bank Future of Media Forum that he was keen to bid for a bigger slice of the AFL pie.

The push by Foxtel to get more of the AFL, sparked by changes to anti-siphoning legislation, has sparked concerns within the NRL that any increased commitment to the AFL could come at a cost to the NRL's coverage on pay-TV.
 

El Diablo

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Shane Mattiske, the NRL's director of strategic projects, said the report had reinforced the NRL's dominance on pay-TV ahead of the negotiations.

"If the AFL is going to get a lift out of Foxtel, it means we are going to have to get an even greater lift given how critical we are to Foxtel," he said. "In 2010, we had 73 of the top 100 programs on Foxtel and the AFL only made eight."

Mr Mattiske said there was little understanding of the NRL's dominance of the pay-TV sector in the broader community .

"If pay-TV lost rugby league in the crucial markets of NSW and Queensland, then it would have dire effects. They just simply cannot afford to lose us," he said.

:clap:

good to see someone come out and say it

force the wankers to pay the right price because without RL then Fox are dead
 

Brutus

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Well done Mr Mattiske!!

He should be made CEO for those quotes alone, but he'll probably end up getting the punt.
 

docbrown

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While the AFL claimed, on a club-by-club basis, that it was ahead of its rival, the NRL also finished ahead in terms of average audience by fixture, with an audience of 1.01 million on free-to-air TV compared with 884,000 for the AFL.

That's the number to look at.

If we had the same ratio of FTA games as the AFL, the total NRL aggregate would be boosted by about 18,000,000 a year. Hence why I advocate boosting that even further by introducing a Sunday afternoon double header and 2 Queensland teams on F2A per week (if there are 4 QLD teams in the comp) in 9 games a round comp - not to mention national coverage on digitals. We would well and truly smash the AFL.

Also it just show how poorly AFL rates in regional areas. Whereas Sydney/Brisbane constitute about 50-60% of the NRL audience, the 5 capitals for AFL make up about 75-80% of their audience.
 

m0nty

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Most of the comparisons in that article, as in most articles on this issue from either side of the fence, are not like-for-like. There are always quirks in both sets of figures that can allow spruikers for either camp to explain away the discrepancies, such that the articles on this subject are almost always worth bugger all. It's the old apples and oranges problem, and the journos fail at statistics every time.

Conroy needs to get off his bony arse and give the industry some certainty by making a bloody decision, for once.
 

In-goal

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Problem, the NRL currently fields 2 extra rounds than the AFL. FOX subscriptions in the Southern states is poor compared to NSW and QLD, this is most likely the case due to the amount of FTA coverage the AFL has.

IF Parra, St.George and Canterbury only played on FTA the number of FOX subscribers would drop off.

This is why Collingwood rarely make a pay TV game.
 

Dragon Jim

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IF Parra, St.George and Canterbury only played on FTA the number of FOX subscribers would drop off.

This is why Collingwood rarely make a pay TV game.

I disagree with this, purely because the Dragons rarely had Pay Tv games at all last year. You just need to look back on the threads about all our Friday night games to see that.

I think to a lesser extent Parra featured well on FTA as did the Dogs.

The only way I will get rid of foxtel is if they dont get the rights to RL. I watch most games, especially super saturday in the evenings, regardless of who is playing.

I cant speak for everyone, but many fans I know are in the same boat.
 

applesauce

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The report found that while the AFL delivered a higher free-to-air cumulative audience when the grand final replay was taken into account, without the replay the NRL triumphed.

I hate journos and their selective reporting. Can't believe that slip through the cracks of the original article.

How can a 1 in 33year event be taken as a constant...?
 

smithie

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Still think Saturday night FTA is a must to block afl getting a free ride.

I agree. Fox should continue to have the 5:30pm & 7:30pm games. The third Saturday game should be on FTA at 6:30pm in between the two Fox games so Fox viewers are unlikely to switch channels.
 
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docbrown

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I agree. Fox should continue to have the 5:30pm & 7:30pm games. The third Saturday game should be on FTA at 6:30pm in between the two Fox games so Fox viewers are unlikely to switch channels.

Overlapping games bring down total viewer numbers.

The goal needs to be to have as many unique live timeslots as possible.
 

nrlnrl

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I agree. Fox should continue to have the 5:30pm & 7:30pm games. The third Saturday game should be on FTA at 6:30pm in between the two Fox games so Fox viewers are unlikely to switch channels.

contract wouldn't allow it, just like the current arrangement for Sundays
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...roadcasting-deal/story-e6frg7mf-1226028351240

Players push for more say on game's next broadcasting deal

Brent Read
From: The Australian
March 26, 2011 12:00AM

NRL players want a seat at the table when negotiations begin over the game's next broadcasting deal.

Rugby League Professionals Association chief executive David Garnsey confirmed his body would like to be directly involved in talks between the game and broadcasters when the independent commission begins negotiations in coming months.

Barring that, the players want their views taken into account before formal talks start. Chief among their concerns is the desire for full-season scheduling, something which is already on the radar of clubs and the NRL.

The AFL already has full-season scheduling and several NRL club chief executives have expressed their desire to bring it in from 2013.

"We want to have significant influence on the shape of negotiations, whether that means being consulted continually during the course of negotiations, or whether that means taking an active role," Garnsey said. "A lot of this will depend on the personnel on the commission and the access I will have to them. Hopefully, I can talk to the people in advance and have some input in discussions.

"I would be surprised if they didn't want to do that. You would have thought commissioners running the game . . . would be interested in what the players' association has to say."

The NRL has had informal discussions with broadcasters but formal talks are on hold until the independent commission comes into effect, most likely on May 1. As revealed in The Australian recently, the final eight commissioners will be selected at a meeting of key stakeholders next Friday.

Once the commission is in place, it is expected to quickly begin what shapes as the most important period of negotiations in the game's history.
 
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