The TV rights thread

[bomberman]

How many viewers did the opening game of League get in Melbourne for comparison?

 

[El Diablo]

the opening game wasn't shown live into Melbourne against no other sport so there is no comparison

9 once showed a FNF game in Melbourne up against no AFL and it rated over 200k

don't thing the 9 big wigs in Melbourne liked it rating that well as it ruined the excuse they peddle

 

[docbrown]

Wouldn't surprise me if 7 & 10 are basically using Fox's demands to drop their share to around $70 - $75 million a season given that they'll likely lose about 20%-30% of their audience and ad revenue.

That would ballpark a 7/10/Fox package at around $820 to $875 million plus about $70 to $80 million for internet rights.

I just can't see CVC signing off on risking $375million and losing Rugby League on its Sydney, Brisbane & Newcastle networks, especially with the Nine Entertainment float still upcoming, especially when Nine has actually been making money with Rugby League plus the halo and won't with AFL.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

So we are gonna basically get f**ked again. Nine will drive the price of afl up 7 and 10 will pay it. And they will have no money to bid for nrl. And nine will get it cheap.

If this happens 7 and 10 should bid through the roof for nrl. Knowing nine has to match it or they are basically f**ked.

Gallop should be all over 7 and 10 like a rash making sure they bid vigorously

If we get f**ked again for 5 years, nrl is seriously in trouble. They will just keep poaching players and sponsors

 

[El Diablo]

Roy is bing paranoid

Stokes, Packer and Murdoch are smarter than the two Victorians in Browne and steady Eddie

9 will end up the losers in everything and will hopefully end up with nothing

 

[docbrown]

Nine will drive the price of afl up 7 and 10 will pay it. And they will have no money to bid for nrl. And nine will get it cheap.

Normally I'd say yes but I'm not entirely convinced. All the networks know their recoup margins for AFL based on what it pulls in with other programming.

Even though 9 is littered with AFL lapdogs, they get their orders from CVC. It's going to be hard for them to sign off on a $400 million+ bid (even to drive up prices) when it also means losing audiences where they actually control the networks (unlike Adelaide & Perth). Plus Win aren't getting on board.

My guess is 9 are well short of 7 & 10 and offering a very similar coverage offer - but 7 & 10 know it and aren't reacting - hence Demetriou's frustration.

7 & 10 might come out of this with $25-$30 million savings a season up their sleeve - so $125 to $150 million over 5 years. Add this to 7's massive recent profits - they will still have the real bargaining power to get the NRL rights or force 9 to pay overs for Rugby League - and to also pressure them on the subsequent cricket rights.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Question. Is gyngill the boss of brown ???

 

[Mickyd39]

I hope 9 miss out on the rights, they are scumbags.

They are advertising the Rugby World Cup Corporate packages during the games tonight.

I hope Gallop has a go at those turds about it, i wont hold my breath.

 

[Edwahu]

Good luck to foxtel in trying to get a ROI on 100 million a year for the AFL.

 

[bobmar28]

Foxtel are offering 100 mill for the AFL rights? If they won't pay more than that for NRL then the IC should offer the rights to someone else and send the bastards broke.

 

[beave]

I've always thought that, but I suppose you have to wonder if any of the FTA networks will buy the 5 other games that Fox shows???

 

[docbrown]

Murdoch/Gallop.
10/Foxtel 8 game NRL deal.

 

[ironhorse]

Love One HD / Ten to grab it , their committment and coverage of sports is the best in the country .

 

[docbrown]

Love One HD / Ten to grab it , their committment and coverage of sports is the best in the country .

I have no idea how they're planning on funding it. There must be alot of money coming from Fox plus 10's savings on AFL.

 

[Billythekid]

Foxtel are offering 100 mill for the AFL rights? If they won't pay more than that for NRL then the IC should offer the rights to someone else and send the bastards broke.

Seriously are they still just paying for potential? The NRL continues to dominate the AFL's fox ratings. Anything less than what the AFL are getting is simply unacceptable.

In fact we should be getting a lot more.

 

[MsStorm]

:thumb Please, please let that happen.

 

[bobmar28]

Murdoch/Gallop.
10/Foxtel 8 game NRL deal.

Really? Have you heard something?

 

[bobmar28]

Love One HD / Ten to grab it , their committment and coverage of sports is the best in the country .

One HD would smash the other digital channels if they get NRL.

 

[In-goal]

Some of you have no understanding of Foxtel and it's need/desire to spread itself through as many Australian households as possible.

The Nothern States of Australia already have a good subscription %. Fox want more people to sign up, it's the old spend money to make money policy.

The AFL is the goose that can lay the golden egg for fox, they know that if they can secure a larger % of matches and overall coverage, more southern and western Australians will buy in.

I find it laughable that some of you can honestly think that the ratings fox recieve for the NRL is a justifiable means for them to spend more! Why would they need to spend more? The market is already buying in, hence they don't see more subscribers looking to buy into pay tv for Rugby League.

The only method by which the NRL will greatly raise it's TV deal is through competition with the FTA networks, fox won't want to lose games and they will want to protect their asset.

If this dosen't make economic sense to you, perhaps you need to read less Roy Masters and look to the finacial review.

If I have made spelling errors and the like, thank you as Im hung over and can't be arsed proof reading.

 

[cleary89]

If they don't pay good amount, give it to free too air instead. Everyone will get rid of fox. At least 2/3 of the people I know would.