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DJDL

First Grade
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1. How was McInnes' tackle possibly a "hip drop"?
2. The kick off. If the end result of letting the ball go into touch is the opposition get the scrum feed, why not play at the ball? There's nothing to lose.
3. How does a player, after crossing the line and being held up, have to plant the ball? I'd argue if he was in the field of play and reached out after the same length of time that was a double movement.
4. How does big Nelson get away with an elbow to the throat of a defender, and 2 tackles later Talakai gets pinged for a high shot on a falling player?

All of those things cost us points.
One or two of them go our way, and we bag our opportunities and it's a different result.

As Bubby said elsewhere, they'll learn a lot from that match.
 

Special K

Coach
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Who cares it’s a good reality check.

Stop the grant try and kick off and that comes down to goal kicking. Lots of lessons. Hope BHU is back soon
 

ghoti

Bench
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Also thought those decisions were really poor, but this is the absolutely ludicrous way the referees are coached now to ping offences to the letter of the law.. probably never been worse now than this f**ken cop like approach to 'well, the hip did drop' and 'well, there was contact with the head'.. was much worse for the Warriors yesterday but it's been a trend the past few weeks.

In saying that though, this is the way things are getting policed on field so we gotta shift the mentality into playing as it is not as it should be.. I liked that our guys weren't falling into that exasperated head on hands yelling at the ref stuff which in the past has lost us field position or points when the opposition marches up field..

It sucks and it's ruining games, but all clubs should be smart enough now to see that refereeing is as bad as it's ever been on account of 'letter to the law' edicts rather than Harrigan style common sense game management (love him or hate him).

Also.. why is no one trying to get rid of captain's challenge? I f**king hate that thing so much and has slowed the game down heeeeaps with all this nitpicky wasted time. The two sexiest words in the rugby league dictionary imo: play on!
 

Cheese sandwich

First Grade
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Why does it take about 5 minutes after they award a try to then check it when the bunker obviously wants to nit pick
 

Frenzy.

Post Whore
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Also thought those decisions were really poor, but this is the absolutely ludicrous way the referees are coached now to ping offences to the letter of the law.. probably never been worse now than this f**ken cop like approach to 'well, the hip did drop' and 'well, there was contact with the head'.. was much worse for the Warriors yesterday but it's been a trend the past few weeks.

In saying that though, this is the way things are getting policed on field so we gotta shift the mentality into playing as it is not as it should be.. I liked that our guys weren't falling into that exasperated head on hands yelling at the ref stuff which in the past has lost us field position or points when the opposition marches up field..

It sucks and it's ruining games, but all clubs should be smart enough now to see that refereeing is as bad as it's ever been on account of 'letter to the law' edicts rather than Harrigan style common sense game management (love him or hate him).

Also.. why is no one trying to get rid of captain's challenge? I f**king hate that thing so much and has slowed the game down heeeeaps with all this nitpicky wasted time. The two sexiest words in the rugby league dictionary imo: play on!

But they don't. They referee trends. Whatever the media and the public suffer righteous indignation on from week to week. The actual rules aren't adjudicated on at all. If they were every week would be like magic round 2021.

The basics are all gone and every rule is now met with a dozen 'what ifs', justifications, excuses.

There is so much coach introduced shit in the game, especially with defence that the actual basic laws of the game have to be forgone to keep the game moving.

The refs are so dis-empowered now. Maybe they wanted to be because they have thin skins but no longer does "the ref is always right" hold true. Refs challenge? What a wank that is. Inbuilt excuse system for whistle blowers made worse by the bunker officials who week after week show they have NFI and make absolute howlers weekly.

Then there is the subjectivity that has been introduced. Who decides, and how do they decide, what is careless, reckless or intentional. Stupid system. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck. Just judge incidents on what they are.

There is too much tolerance in the game now. Just judge things for what they are and adjudicate without fear nor favour and that goes from a simple play the ball infringement to an illegal tackle and everything in between.

The game is flacid.
 

txta2

First Grade
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This holding a player up over the try line waiting for him to wrestle the ball out to score is bs. I also noticed in the ruck when players are stopped and held they were being wrestled to the ground a lot more than normal
 
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Still pissed about this. Decisions are reactionary these days. Oops he got hurt, must be the tacklers fault, lets try and find something... What I want to know is who's decision was it? The ref or the bunker?
I believe it was the bunker Coolum, as there was a delay in giving the penalty
 

Frenzy.

Post Whore
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This holding a player up over the try line waiting for him to wrestle the ball out to score is bs. I also noticed in the ruck when players are stopped and held they were being wrestled to the ground a lot more than normal

It's the 20 second rule for elite teams only
 

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