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Thoughts on 2017/2018

Vic Mackey

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2014-15 were the worst years for injury I've ever seen a club have. 2016 after they were booted and we were fine

Hard to blame it purely on them.

In 13/14 we had horrendous injury runs, although I think a lot of that was down to our S&C trainer (Skando) only qualification was a 6 week TAFE course.

One thing JT did very well was clean that off field shit up. He brought a lot of the professionalism of the Roosters over.

Since 2015 our injury record has been pretty good. It's really only Tedesco who missed games. If it starts going to shit next year then you could probably say your assertions are correct.
 

magpie_man

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Twal was rookie of the year for Tigers imo. His motor was fantastic, but what was incredible was his error rate. I think he missed 4 tackles in his first 5 games (IN TOTAL - avg <1 missed tackle a game).

I definitely see him as a starting prop. Soak up the first 20 minutes with consistent defence then let Mautilino come on at a crucial time to break the game open. I reckon Sue will get a bench spot for his utility value at in both forwards and back row.

ET is the one that is difficult to place. Play him at lock and you have a ball playing a tackle machine, or put him at 2nd row and displace Lawrence or Mcqueen.....not sure how it will go

The more I see him play the more I like Twal starting next season with Grant and Mautalino coming off the bench.
I'd have ET and Aloai in the 2R with Eisenhuth at Lock; Lawrence and McQueen fighting-it-out for one of the bench seats.
Undoubtedly injuries will play their part but that's the strongest line-up AFAIC.
 

Tiger05

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The more I see him play the more I like Twal starting next season with Grant and Mautalino coming off the bench.
I'd have ET and Aloai in the 2R with Eisenhuth at Lock; Lawrence and McQueen fighting-it-out for one of the bench seats.
Undoubtedly injuries will play their part but that's the strongest line-up AFAIC.

I like this line-up as well. Sue misses out though and personally I'd have him somewhere but he has to play up the middle. I'm also not sure if Aloiai goes better up the middle. I still like Lawrence as a player as well.

We really have some depth in the forwards now.
 

Tiger Ted

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I like this line-up as well. Sue misses out though and personally I'd have him somewhere but he has to play up the middle. I'm also not sure if Aloiai goes better up the middle. I still like Lawrence as a player as well.

We really have some depth in the forwards now.
Yep we have obvious & unprecedented depth in the forwards.

My primary concern is the spine.The more I think about our spine the lower my confidence & expectations are for ‘18.We clearly have one of the worst if not the worst spine in the NRL.It will b a miracle if we finish higher than 10th.Personally I dont believe we can finish higher than 12th !!
 

Magpies Forever

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I would suggest Brooks has around no more than 8 games to show he has got it and improved immensely or he will be in lower grade with Marshall promoted up and Gamble as understudy. If Brooks doesnt shine early on I think he will be given the message to look elsewhere for 2019 despite it being the 2nd year of his contract. Maybe ESL to see if he can figure it out.
 

magpie_man

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Yep we have obvious & unprecedented depth in the forwards.

My primary concern is the spine.The more I think about our spine the lower my confidence & expectations are for ‘18.We clearly have one of the worst if not the worst spine in the NRL.It will b a miracle if we finish higher than 10th.Personally I dont believe we can finish higher than 12th !!

With both Brooks and Reynolds being quite injury-prone, I expect Benji and Gamble to be playing a decent amount of firsts next season.
If either of them shine, I don't think Cleary will have too many qualms with playing a higher paid half in the reggies.
 

magpie_man

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I like this line-up as well. Sue misses out though and personally I'd have him somewhere but he has to play up the middle. I'm also not sure if Aloiai goes better up the middle. I still like Lawrence as a player as well.

We really have some depth in the forwards now.

The last few games of the season really showed that Aloiai is more damaging playing wide - keep him in the Second Row.
I'd have Sue on the bench so long as Liddle can play for 80 mins:

Packer
Liddle
Twal
Aloiai
Taylor
Eisenhuth

Mautalino
Grant
Lawrence/McQueen
Sue
 

BrotherJim05

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I've thought of a number of different combos (even playing Mautilino at Lock) but at the end of the day it will be a complete up for grabs with every single spot.
 

Vic Mackey

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The last few games of the season really showed that Aloiai is more damaging playing wide - keep him in the Second Row.
I'd have Sue on the bench so long as Liddle can play for 80 mins:

Packer
Liddle
Twal
Aloiai
Taylor
Eisenhuth

Mautalino
Grant
Lawrence/McQueen
Sue

I'm pretty much the same mate however I'd swap Grant and Twal to start the year. Otherwise it's 4 very green forwards in the starting pack.

Interesting to see what Cleary does with the last bench spot. If he goes 4 forwards or uses Benji there. If Marsters misses a center spot he'd probably be ideal as you could put him anywhere
 

Clifferd

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Yeah all the photos were spammed over my Insta & fb feed this morning haha

Looks weird seeing Reynolds not in Dogs colours but glad he’s with us. Could be the player Brooks needs to come out of his shell & unveil his potential

A new WT era started today and hopefully it’s a successful one
 

Tiger Ted

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Yeah all the photos were spammed over my Insta & fb feed this morning haha

Looks weird seeing Reynolds not in Dogs colours but glad he’s with us. Could be the player Brooks needs to come out of his shell & unveil his potential

A new WT era started today and hopefully it’s a successful one
Geez I hope we finally reap consistent success.Here’s hoping for a united team that plays with grit & has a win at all costs mentality !
 

Tiger05

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Those photos are good. I really want us to have a good year next season. I reckon it's a lottery though with all the changes.
 

Vic Mackey

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Ha, poor Brooks looks a bit awkward in that photo. First day intros can suck for some personality types :)

Obviously just a couple of pics but he looks fit. I've been to 2 open training sessions the last 2 years and on both occasions Brooks was dead last in all the fitness drills. A lot of his mistakes would come later in halves and I think a lot of it was due to a lack of fitness.

Luke has always seemed like a real relaxed dude and I think perhaps he didn't take everything as seriously as he should of. He's probably had a rails ride to the 7, never been challenged and always had his mates there with him. Now they've all gone and there's 3 genuine half options in the squad. Time for him to shape up or ship out
 

Tiger Ted

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Obviously just a couple of pics but he looks fit. I've been to 2 open training sessions the last 2 years and on both occasions Brooks was dead last in all the fitness drills. A lot of his mistakes would come later in halves and I think a lot of it was due to a lack of fitness.

Luke has always seemed like a real relaxed dude and I think perhaps he didn't take everything as seriously as he should of. He's probably had a rails ride to the 7, never been challenged and always had his mates there with him. Now they've all gone and there's 3 genuine half options in the squad. Time for him to shape up or ship out
I have a hunch he will b shipping out !
 

Tigers1986

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A full off-season under Ivan, with his recruits, I'm expecting great things. The opening to our season is a horrible draw. If we manage 2 wins from those 5 (which are possible), then it does get smoother for the remaining 19 games.

I'd be annoyed if we didn't get top 10.
 
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