Tigers Leaving Concord?

[innsaneink]

But that isnt the important point and focusing on it makes the debate kind of pathetic.

So why mention it?



Youre not from Sydney, are you?

giving you 5 teams within a few kms of each other.

If you were you'd know there are much more pressing issues in the SW of Sydney other than sports facilities.... jobs, schools health roads etc etc. Its no vote grabber.

We can fart around lobbying govts for years.....meanwhile:
Tigers CEO Grant Mayer believes the WestConnex project means the club has ''two years max'' before the club is likely to be shifted from Concord.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

So why mention it?

To make the point that they are in a congested market (which is an important point). this isnt even a debatable point, its just a fact; sydney, along parramatta road and the surrounding areas, has a lot of teams.

But the thing is, i could just concede this point and you would still have all of your work ahead of you in debating my point. You focused on one minor peripheral fact and dug into that. THAT is what is making this debate pathetic.

The important point is about whether you agree with the preposition; if they can get a deal to train out of a HPU in the south west, is that a better option than concord (a shitty oval that is not going to get funding)

Youre not from Sydney, are you?

No, but id love to hear exactly why this is important...

Do i not feel the area?? am i not (insert some other cliché)???

If you were you'd know there are much more pressing issues in the SW of Sydney other than sports facilities.... jobs, schools health roads etc etc. Its no vote grabber.

We can fart around lobbying govts for years.....meanwhile:
Tigers CEO Grant Mayer believes the WestConnex project means the club has ''two years max'' before the club is likely to be shifted from Concord.

...because when things requires effort, then f*ck it.

This is actually something councils are willing to invest in and it is (whether you agree with it or not) a vote winner; this isnt being debated, its a fact.

That in mind, you need to decide whats more important; is it better to have a shitty quality ground, for no other reason than because its the easy option, or do you put some effort into doing your job and getting the team the best possible deal.

 

[innsaneink]

To make the point that they are in a congested market (which is an important point). this isnt even a debatable point, its just a fact; sydney, along parramatta road and the surrounding areas, has a lot of teams.

You just said it wasnt important earlier

But that isnt the important point and focusing on it makes the debate kind of pathetic.

It is or it isnt important???

My focussing on it highlites the innacuracies of your posts. Your vague descriptions of Sydney arent easily translatable to all without knowing wtf youre on about

sydney, along parramatta road and the surrounding areas, has a lot of teams.

No, it doesnt...youre wrong but my focussing on this makes it pathetic.

OK

But the thing is, i could just concede this point and you would still have all of your work ahead of you in debating my point. You focused on one minor peripheral fact and dug into that. THAT is what is making this debate pathetic.

The important point is about whether you agree with the preposition; if they can get a deal to train out of a HPU in the south west, is that a better option than concord (a shitty oval that is not going to get funding)

Why the s/w?
Im for a modern u-t-d hpu anywhere...where they train has little consequences regarding the congested sydney market (all along Parra rd)

Do you think Im pro concord? have you not read the thread? Have you read my prior points, I guess youve just ignored them.

No, but id love to hear exactly why this is important...

Do i not feel the area?? am i not (insert some other cliché)???

See above

...because when things requires effort, then f*ck it.

This is actually something councils are willing to invest in and it is (whether you agree with it or not) a vote winner; this isnt being debated, its a fact.

You may well be right here, I do know the greater poplation are more concerned with points I raised earlier.
That said, I doubt we have time for you proposition, Mayer has stated weve two years max...I'd say we need to focus on looking for something that suits our needs thats already in existence....that Indoor Sports center at Nth Ryde he mentioned, for example.

That in mind, you need to decide whats more important; is it better to have a shitty quality ground, for no other reason than because its the easy option, or do you put some effort into doing your job and getting the team the best possible deal.

LOL...as above, you havent read the thread nor my points.
I dont have to decide on any ultimatum youve provided...Ive not suggested any of the sort, particularly the former option


So to clarify.
Concord is well past its use by date.
We need to go where we can compete with the best of the other teams, wether thats Liverpool, Cambo, Nth Ryde or Eastwood ...we dont have time to lobby govts, we need existing infrastructure.

 

[R2Coupe]

Our new training, playing and headquarters facilities should be located in Oran Park town centre. Similarly, another NRL club should establish a similar facility in the north west growth centre especially with the new rail link.

The NRL has an opportunity to win more viewers and also attract additional juniors by establishing in the south west growth and north west growth centres. The NRL should also contribute significant amounts of its tv rights funding to provide these facilities. A Perth team should also be a part of the programme.

Disputes about whether the facilities should be in Campbelltown or the Inner West (Ashfield and Balmain) to me are outdated.

 

[The Charlatan]

I couldn't give a flying f**k where they train, as long as where they end up is approximately 1000% better than the archaic facilities they have at their disposal at Concord.

Whether that be Ryde, Campbelltown or Alice Springs... I don't care, just as long as the facilities are the best on offer as our conditioning and high performance unit always seems to be miles behind the rest of the competition.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

You just said it wasnt important earlier
It is or it isnt important???

My focussing on it highlites the innacuracies of your posts. Your vague descriptions of Sydney arent easily translatable to all without knowing wtf youre on about

No, it doesnt...youre wrong but my focussing on this makes it pathetic.

OK

That sounds brilliant right up until you give each post a little context....

The point that was unimportant was your insistence on to focus on the me saying there was a clusterf*ck of teams in the innerwest. You are right, thats not true; it was the fault of my half assed wording.
I should have said "innerwest and surrounding areas..."

But it is entirely pointless to differentiate between a clusterf8ck of teams in the innerwest and a clusterf*uck of teams in the innerwest and surrounding areas.
There is this a clusterf*ck of teams in this area; THAT is the important point.

Why the s/w?
Im for a modern u-t-d hpu anywhere...where they train has little consequences regarding the congested sydney market (all along Parra rd)

Do you think Im pro concord? have you not read the thread? Have you read my prior points, I guess youve just ignored them.

A congested market doesnt effect the perfomence of the teams at all; they could all share one big field without it effecting the competition.

But it DOES effect the support. This clusterf*ck of teams i referred to is a problem because there are 5 teams all putting their advertising legwork into this one area and neglecting others.

Even if they played every game out of ANZ, basing themselves out of Liverpool/the S-W gives them that point of difference to sell to their fans. They would be the only team of SW sydney and (depending on good marketing and community work) they would have a good share of the 2 million western sydneysiders to themselves.

OR they can stay in the innerwest and compete with the 5 other teams already there.

You may well be right here, I do know the greater poplation are more concerned with points I raised earlier.
That said, I doubt we have time for you proposition, Mayer has stated weve two years max...I'd say we need to focus on looking for something that suits our needs thats already in existence....that Indoor Sports center at Nth Ryde he mentioned, for example.

Perhaps some kind of interim deal (use something else until the HPU is built)???

So to clarify.
Concord is well past its use by date.
We need to go where we can compete with the best of the other teams, wether thats Liverpool, Cambo, Nth Ryde or Eastwood ...we dont have time to lobby govts, we need existing infrastructure.

...because when things get hard then f*ck it.

Put it this way; if concord is condemned then the tigers have 2 options....

• Find an exsisting place and stay there forever and ever.
  
• Go to that same place and train there for only a few years, until they can build something better.
  

Why do you seem to think that the place they find in 2 years time in their home for the rest of time???

 

[Ron's_Mate]

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