Tigers Movements

[WA Tiger]

Tuilagi has no obligation to give Madge a come back offer when Madge has parked him on the bench for a whole year. Tuilagi already knew what Madge thought of him…Manly made the first offer that meant a starting spot in November or before and accepted. Starting a player on the bench doesn’t even qualify you for a comeback offer..Done deal .. Des IDs these damaging forwards all the time without even trying.

 

[WA Tiger]

Madge saw something in Tuilagi during preseason training a year later so he gave him a starting spot.. We deserve to lose him. But we have to stop that shit now!!

 

[Tigerm]

Tuilagi has no obligation to give Madge a come back offer when Madge has parked him on the bench for a whole year. Tuilagi already knew what Madge thought of him…Manly made the first offer that meant a starting spot…Starting a player on the bench doesn’t even qualify you for a comeback offer..Done deal .. Des IDs these players without even trying.

He already stated, he was told he will have to earn a starting spot? I hope he gets one, but they have a few back rowers as well, like us.
To say Madge took his eye off the ball, is bull shit, he had an offer on the table from us, (BTW, Madge doesn’t handle recruitment).
I would think that at the time (last November), we had Lucy, Garner, Blore, Seyfarth, Simkpins and they knew they were going to make a big offer to Papali’i, at that stage Tuilagi would have been behind all of them?
Good luck to him though, but he isn’t irreplaceable, imo.

 

[stryker]

Tuilagi situation is another Hartigan f**kup

 

[WA Tiger]

Tuilagi situation is another Hartigan f**kup

Probably, coz Hartigan did have the final say. Still Madge was the one that decided Tuilagi wasn’t good enough to be a starter, all last year.That he wasn’t worth having a proper look at .No wonder Madge was shocked when he found out Tuilagi was leaving..

 

[Fordy20]

I don't blame the bloke for leaving. He's been offered a 3 year contract at a club that is currently playing props at second row. At Manly next year, Schuster will move to pivot, so Tuilagi will be partnering Olakau'atu unless they sign someone better. Compare that to the fact we are still chasing Nikora with all the blokes we have on the books.

 

[Tiger05]

Still Madge was the one that decided Tuilagi wasn’t good enough to be a starter, all last year.

He just picked him as our starting 2nd rower. You need another story to criticise Madge because your current one doesn't make any sense. It's not rational.

 

[WA Tiger]

Maybe we could blame the money ball guy

 

[WA Tiger]

He just picked him as our starting 2nd rower. You need another story to criticise Madge because your current one doesn't make any sense. It's not rational.

Yea just a tad late mate. Tuilagi signed with Manly in November. Madge needed Des to tell him that Tuilagi was quality. Can you see the problem that may pose going forward? Can you? I’m sorry, I can’t make my posts any clearer than they are. It’s not possible.

 

[Tiger05]

Yea just a tad late mate. Tuilagi signed with Manly in November. Madge needed Des to tell him that Tuilagi was quality. Can you see the problem that may pose going forward? Can you? I’m sorry, I can’t make my posts any clearer than they are. It’s not possible.

You posts are extremely clear. I understand exactly what you are stating.

It's just that your posts are also crazy. I hope I'm being clear with you. Your posts are not rational or logical. You are posting complete and utter dribble. You have an agenda against Madge and you are making up stuff in order to justify your agenda.

Tuilagi opted to take the security of a three-year contract with the Sea Eagles over the two years offered by the Tigers.

“Madge [Michael Maguire] fought to bring me here from Melbourne. I had tears in my eyes telling him,” Tuilagi told The Daily Telegraph.

Your agenda doesn't match the facts in this matter. You've gotten it completely wrong.

If we are being honest this looks to be a Sheens f**k up.

 

[WA Tiger]

O ok yea those excerpts are pretty compelling. Manly offered 3 years as opposed to 2 from us..And he was crying!! OMG, forgive me I concede…

 

[Tiger05]

O ok yea those excerpts are pretty compelling. Manly offered 3 years as opposed to 2 from us..And he was crying!! OMG, forgive me I concede…

No problems. I hope you can see that he choose Manly over us and he also previously choose us over Melbourne.

He is a loss. I wish we'd kept him.

Your premise that every player needs to get promoted to first grade or they will leave is also a terrible way to run a rugby league club. To add to that we've given him game time based on merit. It's a dumb argument in the first place but in this instance you also used it incorrectly.

 

[WA Tiger]

Hahaha

 

[Magpies Forever]

I think our club, as do all the so-so clubs, run the perennial problem of signing young players identified as potential and then running through the development phases and hopefully into first grade if they stay. The problem is when they reach that first grade stage fending off other clubs, particularly the stronger more popular clubs then coming to pick the fruit off the tree.

We can't get it right all the time, some don't make the grade, others do but choose to go elsewhere for the first grade experience and greater opportunity with the big clubs. Unless the player is a local junior there is no real loyalty to WT, even if a local you can't take it as granted. Tuilagi showed no loyalty and went for the better opportunity at Manly without giving WT a chance to match their offer. He made his choice, no point carrying on. However unless he is needed in the side I'd now be giving preference to this staying and of equal capability. That said, he is safe in the squad at thee moment with no real pressure from others to take his spot.

I don't think anyone dropped the ball here, we made him a solid offer, Manly came in with a better one and he signed the first opportunity he had without giving WT a chance to match it. Case over, he would seem to be the type where he was stuck way behind a strong Melbourne squad, went to WT to get opportunity and be noticed and at the first opportunity went to a stronger club for better opportunities. The way to get ahead for many players, WT used simply as a way to a means. Matterson all over again, just more polite.

 

[WA Tiger]

Tuilagi was on the bench when manly came knocking!! ..he already knew the answer to what he was worth to WT…who has ever negotiated from the bench for a better deal (5 games for the whole year on the bench and not because of injury). Can u think of anyone. He was there all last year and for all he knew all this year as well.. Manly acknowledged his worth, WT acknowledged his lack of worth, and that’s separate from the length and amount of his contract…That is not a negotiating tool you want to have when trying to keep a player….THATS all there is to it…I’m pretty sure you meant to write, give someone else a chance if they are as good or better..That’s not going to happen
This guy is very top tier quality. 2 year deals are for also rans of which we have a few. Not for this guy unless you want to lose him. He will be man of the match so many times our noses will be red from being rubbed in it…But the reason this keeps happening has nothing to do with players knowing they can at WT Boo hoo … The reason is because we have a coach that can’t do anything right. He can’t communicate. He can’t identify and acknowledge talent. He picks and sticks. He wastes every opportunity to win games and doesn’t learn anything from it. Which means top 8 and the respect that goes with that is always out of reach.

 

[Someone2]

Tuilgai looks like he is gonna be a superstar and has so much more upside than Papa and would of been able to keep him for half the price

#boughtnotbreed

 

[WA Tiger]

Have yous ever played 5 games off the bench in a whole year, for a bottom of the table team. Probably never right. Just pretend…How does that feel. Like maybe you are no good or alternatively “?Fk$&@Fk£%#,” exactly…What are you then thinking when a top 4 team comes knocking. A year in year out, top of the tree coach, that thinks “you’ve got something.” …..Wake up!

 

[Tiger05]

Tuilagi showed no loyalty and went for the better opportunity at Manly without giving WT a chance to match their offer. He made his choice, no point carrying on.

It happens. There may also be more to it. He could be a knob like Aloiai and feels he wants out. I don't know.

I do know that trying to twist this into some story about Madge being the reason for anything that doesn't go perfectly is stupid and delusional.

I think Luc is also a massive loss but you can't outbid every club to retain every single player that you have.

We've signed Papalli for next season. He is probably a better all round player than both second rowers we are losing. We need at least another edge backrower. Hopefully we get a good one.

 

[Tiger05]

The reason is because we have a coach that can’t do anything right.

This is what you call an agenda. It's clearly delusional right. I have a mate who works at the club. He told me he gets along great with Madge. He hasn't always told me complementary comments regarding the players.

I am not stating Madge is a great coach. I would definitely not renew his contract unless the team makes the finals prior to the end of his contract. That doesn't mean Madge is too blame for everything bad at the club.

 

[Tiger05]

Tuilgai looks like he is gonna be a superstar and has so much more upside than Papa and would of been able to keep him for half the price

#boughtnotbreed

Sort of like Mitchell Moses and Matterson.