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Timana Tahu accused of racially abusing youth

El Diablo

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...ly-abusing-youth/story-e6frf7l6-1225935124463

Timana Tahu accused of racially abusing youth

* By James Hooper
* From: The Daily Telegraph
* October 07, 2010 12:00AM

TIMANA Tahu, the man at the centre of the NSW Origin racism row, has been accused of racially vilifying a 16-year-old Aboriginal boy at a league tournament.

Northern United coach Chris Binge claims his son Caleb reported that Tahu called him a "black c***" at the weekend during the Koori Knockout tournament in Woy Woy, on NSW's Central Coast.

The Parramatta Eels last night engaged the services of a lawyer to act on Tahu's behalf after the allegations came to light. The solicitor told The Daily Telegraph Tahu had "repeatedly and strenuously" denied the claims.

Tahu alleges he himself was the victim of verbal abuse during the tournament.

Mr Binge, Northern United sponsor John Bryce, captain Willie Hammond and vice-captain Alwyn Roberts have all gone on the record to state that Tahu made the remark.

Mr Bryce, who runs Meridian Health Family Medical Centre in Lismore, said: "It happened. I heard it. The young guys hold this guy in fairly high esteem and to hear him use the words was just unbelievable.

"To have him stand up on national TV not that long ago and belittle someone else for using the same terminology is just hypocritical."

Tahu tipped the NSW State of Origin camp upside down ahead of the series-deciding Origin II match in June when he quit the Blues camp on the NSW North Coast.

The protest developed into a hardline political stance from the Parramatta centre, who was angered after Blues assistant coach Andrew Johns referred to Queensland centre Greg Inglis as a "black c***".

At the time, Tahu said a line needed to be drawn in the sand in relation to racism in rugby league.

Parramatta chief executive Paul Osborne yesterday spoke to Tahu, Mr Binge and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Mick Gooda.

"I spoke to Timana, who's denied the allegation. However, I've also spoken to the father of the young boy in question and I'll be speaking to Mick Gooda to seek his counsel on how best to handle the situation," Osborne said.

"I intend to have Mick Gooda speak to Timana. We're happy to work with the Binge family."

Mr Gooda is the man who handled the Tahu-Johns race row and mediated the pair to eventually come together to attempt to find a resolution.

Binge is a talented 16-year-old who has been on a Broncos scholarship for the past two seasons and is set to make his Toyota Cup debut for Brisbane next year.

"Like Timana said at the time of the Origin camp, there's a line and you don't cross it," Mr Binge Sr said.

"Well, what, you don't cross it if it's black on white but it's OK to cross if you're black on black?

"At the end of the day, regardless of colour or the situation, it's not on.

"My young bloke used to look up to Tahu. This isn't sour grapes [or] a witch hunt, we're genuinely shocked."

In a separate incident against United, Tahu was also accused of lashing out with a kick and was later sin-binned for five minutes for a swinging arm against Mungindi.

Club officials and supporters stormed the field in protest before Tahu was sin-binned.

Northern United captain Willie Hammond also claimed he heard the racial slur.

"After all the stuff that went on with him and Joey it's pretty sad for him to come out and say stuff like that," Hammond, 33, said.
 

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...se-against-youth/story-e6frexnr-1225935142323

TIMANA Tahu, the man at the centre of the NSW Origin racism row, has been accused of racially vilifying a 16-year-old Aboriginal boy at a Koori Knockout league tournament. Northern United coach Chris Binge claims his son Caleb had reported that Tahu called him a "black c ... " at the weekend.
The Parramatta Eels last night engaged the services of a lawyer to act on Tahu's behalf after the allegations came to light. The solicitor told The Daily Telegraph Tahu had "repeatedly and strenuously" denied the claims.
Tahu alleges he himself was the victim of verbal abuse during the tournament in Woy Woy.
Mr Binge, Northern United sponsor John Bryce, captain Willie Hammond and vice-captain Alwyn Roberts have all gone on the record to state that Tahu made the remark. Mr Bryce, who runs Meridian Health Family Medical Centre in Lismore, said: "It happened. I heard it. The young guys hold this guy in fairly high esteem and to hear him use the words was just unbelievable.
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"To have him stand up on national TV not that long ago and belittle someone else for using the same terminology is just hypocritical."
Tahu tipped the NSW State of Origin camp upside down ahead of the series-deciding Origin II match in June when he quit the Blues camp on the NSW North Coast.
The protest developed into a hardline political stance from the Parramatta centre, who was angered after Blues assistant coach Andrew Johns referred to Queensland centre Greg Inglis as a "black c ... ".
At the time, Tahu said a line needed to be drawn in the sand in relation to racism in rugby league.
Parramatta chief executive Paul Osborne yesterday spoke to Tahu, Mr Binge and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Mick Gooda.
"I spoke to Timana, who's denied the allegation. However, I've also spoken to the father of the young boy in question and I'll be speaking to Mick Gooda to seek his counsel on how best to handle the situation," Osborne said.
"I intend to have Mick Gooda speak to Timana. We're happy to work with the Binge family."
Mr Gooda is the man who handled the Tahu-Johns race row and mediated the pair to eventually come together to attempt to find a resolution.
Binge is a talented 16-year-old who has been on a Broncos scholarship for the past two seasons and is set to make his Toyota Cup debut for Brisbane next year.
"Like Timana said at the time of the Origin camp, there's a line and you don't cross it," Mr Binge Sr said.
"Well, what, you don't cross it if it's black on white but it's OK to cross if you're black on black?
"At the end of the day, regardless of colour or the situation, it's not on.
"My young bloke used to look up to Tahu. This isn't sour grapes [or] a witch hunt, we're genuinely shocked."
In a separate incident against United, Tahu was also accused of lashing out with a kick and was later sin-binned for five minutes for a swinging arm against Mungindi.
Club officials and supporters stormed the field in protest before Tahu was sin-binned.
Northern United captain Willie Hammond also claimed he heard the racial slur.
"After all the stuff that went on with him and Joey it's pretty sad for him to come out and say stuff like that," Hammond, 33, said.
 

sarahk

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I highly doubt its true. I feel sorry for Tahu for everything he has had to go through, he probably regrets the day he left the origin camp over Andrews remarks.
 

Forty20

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'Oh dear...' is my initial reaction but like anything that comes out of the Tele, I'll wait for something a wee bit more credible before unleashing my almighty internet opinion.

If true, the irony would be a bitch though.
 

boxhead

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I seriously think Tahu needs real help, and has needed it for a while.
He quite obviously has not been the same person since the Andrew Johns slur.

Watch him at any point, he looks so depressed.

We can sit here and ridicule him all day and call him a whiner or whatever, but it doesn't change the fact that the guy desperately needs help.....depression-which he seems to have-can make you do some really bad things in the heat of the moment.

I feel sorry for the guy.....ever since the Andrew Johns thing, which was not at all his fault, he has been unfairly ridiculed by pretty much everyone, and I'm betting he knows about it.....I mean, how would you feel if you were taking a stand against racism and also to stand against people who have been racially abusing him all his life, and then have people call him a whiner and a prick for doing it?

If this is true, yes he needs to look at himself, but he needs emotional help.
 

slammingsam

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I really feel for you guys as fans and your club. He has dragged you through some crap lately. You could see he was really fired up in that game and got involved in atleast 3-4 scuffles.
 

cv8z

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I seriously think Tahu needs real help, and has needed it for a while.
He quite obviously has not been the same person since the Andrew Johns slur.

Watch him at any point, he looks so depressed.

We can sit here and ridicule him all day and call him a whiner or whatever, but it doesn't change the fact that the guy desperately needs help.....depression-which he seems to have-can make you do some really bad things in the heat of the moment.

I feel sorry for the guy.....ever since the Andrew Johns thing, which was not at all his fault, he has been unfairly ridiculed by pretty much everyone, and I'm betting he knows about it.....I mean, how would you feel if you were taking a stand against racism and also to stand against people who have been racially abusing him all his life, and then have people call him a whiner and a prick for doing it?

If this is true, yes he needs to look at himself, but he needs emotional help.

He could have chosen his words a bit more carefully. After all he is a role model for his kids.
 

Eels Dude

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I highly doubt its true. I feel sorry for Tahu for everything he has had to go through, he probably regrets the day he left the origin camp over Andrews remarks.

If that's the case why would he make stupid remarks in regards to DA's sacking just the other day. The bloke's got rocks in his head. I doubt these allegations have any truth to them, but Timana needs to understand every accusation is going to come ack to bite you.
 

boxhead

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If that's the case why would he make stupid remarks in regards to DA's sacking just the other day. The bloke's got rocks in his head. I doubt these allegations have any truth to them, but Timana needs to understand every accusation is going to come ack to bite you.

I'm not going to say anything about Timana's intelligence, but he clearly has emotional issues.
I'm in the same boat as you where I doubt this is true.
 

cv8z

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I'm not going to say anything about Timana's intelligence, but he clearly has emotional issues.
I'm in the same boat as you where I doubt this is true.

If proven true it's going to be hard for him to move on.
 

sarahk

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If that's the case why would he make stupid remarks in regards to DA's sacking just the other day. The bloke's got rocks in his head. I doubt these allegations have any truth to them, but Timana needs to understand every accusation is going to come ack to bite you.

But Eels Dude that's different . Him coming out and saying the stuff he did about Anderson isn't so bad when you think about the circumstances. He was giving truthful answers to questions he was being asked, and keep in mind he doesnt have a contract for 2011 so i can understand why he would reiterate the fact that he was forced to play with injury.

I agree with you in the fact that sometimes he does need to keep quiet but i think the things he says and does are immensely blown out of proportion. I just cannot comprehend how someone who just made a huge deal out of being called a 'black cnt' would turn around and say it to a 16 year old. From accounts i've heard from people that have met Tahu, they all say he is an absolute gentleman ( i know you think differently regarding what he said the other day).

I don't think he's ever done enough wrong for something to come back and bite him. This sounds like a BS story to bring him down further.
 

Eels Dude

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But Eels Dude that's different . Him coming out and saying the stuff he did about Anderson isn't so bad when you think about the circumstances. He was giving truthful answers to questions he was being asked, and keep in mind he doesnt have a contract for 2011 so i can understand why he would reiterate the fact that he was forced to play with injury.

I agree with you in the fact that sometimes he does need to keep quiet but i think the things he says and does are immensely blown out of proportion. I just cannot comprehend how someone who just made a huge deal out of being called a 'black cnt' would turn around and say it to a 16 year old. From accounts i've heard from people that have met Tahu, they all say he is an absolute gentleman ( i know you think differently regarding what he said the other day).

I don't think he's ever done enough wrong for something to come back and bite him. This sounds like a BS story to bring him down further.

I don't disagree with you, I think along the lines of put up or shut up. In Tahu's case he has played out to the media his thoughts, and in this case someone's done the same towards him. I don't there's any truth to these allegations, but at the same time perhaps if Tahu himself was a bit more discreet in his own handling of things we wouldn't even of heard about it.
 

sarahk

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I don't disagree with you, I think along the lines of put up or shut up. In Tahu's case he has played out to the media his thoughts, and in this case someone's done the same towards him. I don't there's any truth to these allegations, but at the same time perhaps if Tahu himself was a bit more discreet in his own handling of things we wouldn't even of heard about it.

That i definitely agree with. Had he never come out with those allegations against Johns then this would have never happened. Im sure we'll be hearing about it on the news for the next 2 weeks whilst having to put up with every possible insult being thrown at Tahu.

In all seriousness, have we set some record for a team that has ended up in the media more times than any other team in a year where Melbourne rort the cap and St George win their first premiership in 31 years? :sarcasm:
 

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This just about shows that Tahu is a publicity boy, an overpaid princess from an otherwise-unnamed-soap opera.
Assuming the allegations are true of course, although I don't think a fellow Indigenous member would accuse another of racism.
IF it's true, it washes out every bit of drama from the Origin 'scandal', as he is merely a crybaby.
IF it's true, it washes out every bit of drama regarding his feelings towards DA, as he is merely a crybaby.

Let's hope our own dear beloved player in Tahu is not the type of person I think he is.
 

mrpwnd

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I'm not going to say anything about Timana's intelligence, but he clearly has emotional issues.
I'm in the same boat as you where I doubt this is true.
That's abit too nice, i'd say he's just another bloke that failed to mature during his 10 years as a professional sportsman.
 
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What the hell did those blokes at the ARU do to Tahu?

He was an upstanding person and a brilliant player before he went there.
 
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This just about shows that Tahu is a publicity boy, an overpaid princess from an otherwise-unnamed-soap opera.
Assuming the allegations are true of course, although I don't think a fellow Indigenous member would accuse another of racism.
IF it's true, it washes out every bit of drama from the Origin 'scandal', as he is merely a crybaby.
IF it's true, it washes out every bit of drama regarding his feelings towards DA, as he is merely a crybaby.

Let's hope our own dear beloved player in Tahu is not the type of person I think he is.

This.

He is a mate of Obsorne - he wont get the sack either way.
 

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