Todd Greenberg Appointed NRL CEO

[Brutus]

Dave Smith >>>>>>> Gavid Dallop

 

[DiegoNT]

Dave Smith >>>>>>> Gavid Dallop

Only a complete moron would think otherwise

 

[Captain Apollo]

Only a complete moron would think otherwise

There are plenty of those. They all seem to work for the Daily Telegraph and News Ltd.

 

[LJC]

One thing I have noticed on this site is that we, as a whole, are a lot more media savvy than in past years. We all seem very aware of the News Ltd. stance and its ability to manipulate the general public. I think it's great. Well done to all.
Rugby league has many detractors despite it being a wonderful sport. In fact it is without doubt the elite form of rugby but is continuously being repressed by its "ugly big brother" in rugby union. It has other codes wanting to see its demise and I'm glad we have been able to pinpoint one of its enemies, New Ltd.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

One thing I have noticed on this site is that we, as a whole, are a lot more media savvy than in past years. We all seem very aware of the News Ltd. stance and its ability to manipulate the general public. I think it's great. Well done to all.
Rugby league has many detractors despite it being a wonderful sport. In fact it is without doubt the elite form of rugby but is continuously being repressed by its "ugly big brother" in rugby union. It has other codes wanting to see its demise and I'm glad we have been able to pinpoint one of its enemies, New Ltd.

The trouble is there are far more RL fans out there that swallow every bit of News Ltd Bullshit as Gospel .

Read the comments on DT anti RL/Smith/Grant etc articles .
Or any social media .
The braindeads just nod & agree with Slothfield & co .

 

[RL The greatest game]

One thing I have noticed on this site is that we, as a whole, are a lot more media savvy than in past years. We all seem very aware of the News Ltd. stance and its ability to manipulate the general public. I think it's great. Well done to all.
Rugby league has many detractors despite it being a wonderful sport. In fact it is without doubt the elite form of rugby but is continuously being repressed by its "ugly big brother" in rugby union. It has other codes wanting to see its demise and I'm glad we have been able to pinpoint one of its enemies, New Ltd.

Consul your self with the fact that without us Uncle Rupert is going to lose megabucks with fox.
We know that Murdochs lackies read these pages, and this is my message to them to take back to the Yank, "Pay us our worth Rupert"

 

[Lockyer4President!]

TBH a lot of us see through the News bullshit simply because we're passionate enough about RL to bother registering on footy fan forums and discuss the game.

How many of us do the same for politics, health, education, etc. It's just a human thing to believe what you read or hear on the news, can't really blame them.

Another reason why letting Murdoch's family having more influence over one our FTA stations was such a disgrace.

 

[Last Week]

One thing I have noticed on this site is that we, as a whole, are a lot more media savvy than in past years. We all seem very aware of the News Ltd. stance and its ability to manipulate the general public. I think it's great. Well done to all.
Rugby league has many detractors despite it being a wonderful sport. In fact it is without doubt the elite form of rugby but is continuously being repressed by its "ugly big brother" in rugby union. It has other codes wanting to see its demise and I'm glad we have been able to pinpoint one of its enemies, New Ltd.

Funny you mention thatthat. I was looking through the media section of this forum, old threads, etc etc. And it is noticeable that there are more and more people that are aware of the News Ltd angle and agenda. A good portion of posts were pretty spot on with it.

What has stood out most for me is that the amount of complaints about Channel 9s treatment of the game has dropped dramatically. The changes I've noticed that complaints about commentary have gone up, as well as disdain for the footy show, but that's pretty much it.

Some things haven't changed, like rabs getting names wrong and the interstate coverage is only marginally better, East Coast Tiger hated the commission since it was first mentioned, so at least he's consistent.

Good times now, less doom and gloom.

 

[wests1]

TBH a lot of us see through the News bullshit simply because we're passionate enough about RL to bother registering on footy fan forums and discuss the game.

How many of us do the same for politics, health, education, etc. It's just a human thing to believe what you read or hear on the news, can't really blame them.

Another reason why letting Murdoch's family having more influence over one our FTA stations was such a disgrace.

That's a really interesting point you make. I personally do care incredibly deeply about both Rugby League and Politics. This has meant that for as long as I remember that I haven't had an ounce of trust for News Ltd because they just talk absolute dribble about both. Most of the people I associate with think the same (about the politics anyway) so it's easy to forget that amongst the general populace they wield so much power.
What does baffle me is that while I can see how easy it is to influence public opinion in regard to Politics (you just need to aim at people who care only about themselves and tell them they'll be worse off) I don't understand why anyone would take their cues from, let's be honest, some of the most un-charismatic individuals in journalism when it comes to RL. Maybe this is why they've played up the apparent breach between the NRL and the clubs - get people to think that they are attacking THEIR club etc.

 

[kbw]

I would be interested in hearing from someone else that is actually involved in rugby league not just as a player or a fan.
I run a reasonable sized junior club. I am also involved at the semi professional level (sydney shield and ron massey) and junior development from the 13s up to opens.

I think Smith and his friends on the commission are useless and have done nothing for the game. Since he joined the NRL are not interested in anything unless it generates revenue. In my opinion they did not realise that Rugby league is just not first grade.

If someone can show what they have done for the "game" at all levels I am happy to be proven otherwise.

 

[DiegoNT]

I would be interested in hearing from someone else that is actually involved in rugby league not just as a player or a fan.
I run a reasonable sized junior club. I am also involved at the semi professional level (sydney shield and ron massey) and junior development from the 13s up to opens.

I think Smith and his friends on the commission are useless and have done nothing for the game. Since he joined the NRL are not interested in anything unless it generates revenue. In my opinion they did not realise that Rugby league is just not first grade.

If someone can show what they have done for the "game" at all levels I am happy to be proven otherwise.

Have you listened to the john grant interview a few threads down from this?
It may surprise you. He himself admits that grass roots RL hasn't had the attention it needs. He himself says that a lot of the work the commission has put into place hasn't really come into place yet and he understands that people in the lower leagues are right to complain that enough hasn't been done. He has made it clear that getting the revenue side of things has been the main focus under dave smith. But he also said that the next phase of the commission is working towards strengthening grass roots, expanding the second tiers and Bush footy and that the surplus will be re-invested back into the game. It was a pretty frank interview.

Australiam rugby league has been mis-managed poorly since the super league era, grassroots has been ignored, nrl clubs poorly managed, the nrl revenue streams have been underfunded because they were negotiated by a CEO with huge conflict of interest. The commission hasn't been around long enough to fix these huge problems, but getting the business side of things up and running, bringing in huge amounts of money and cleaning up the front office is a pretty good first step, fixing what's wrong with australian rugby league won't happen overnight.

 

[undertaker]

Only a complete moron would think otherwise

East Coast Tiger?

 

[Perth Red]

Have you listened to the john grant interview a few threads down from this?
It may surprise you. He himself admits that grass roots RL hasn't had the attention it needs. He himself says that a lot of the work the commission has put into place hasn't really come into place yet and he understands that people in the lower leagues are right to complain that enough hasn't been done. He has made it clear that getting the revenue side of things has been the main focus under dave smith. But he also said that the next phase of the commission is working towards strengthening grass roots, expanding the second tiers and Bush footy and that the surplus will be re-invested back into the game. It was a pretty frank interview.

Australiam rugby league has been mis-managed poorly since the super league era, grassroots has been ignored, nrl clubs poorly managed, the nrl revenue streams have been underfunded because they were negotiated by a CEO with huge conflict of interest. The commission hasn't been around long enough to fix these huge problems, but getting the business side of things up and running, bringing in huge amounts of money and cleaning up the front office is a pretty good first step, fixing what's wrong with australian rugby league won't happen overnight.

He said the same thing three years ago, don't hold your breath.

 

[El Diablo]

He said the same thing three years ago, don't hold your breath.

 

[DiegoNT]

He said the same thing three years ago, don't hold your breath.

The difference is that the nrl now has its own front office cleaned up, and the game is on track to make the money is should of been earning all these years. All areas of the nrl were neglected in the post super-league / gallop area. Since the commission has come in, all these areas suddenly put their hand up for fixing and funding. Grass roots put their hand up, the Bush put their hand up, people wanting the international game stronger put their hand up, under funded current clubs put their hand, affiliated states put their hand up, people wanting expansion put their hand up. All these areas had been ignored for to long. But the nrl can't do nothing for any of these areas if the front office is not strong, and after Gallops reign it was pretty obvious the nrl wasn't as Strong as it should be. Of course the first thing that needed fixing was the nrl itself and I think they've come along way. No clubs are currently in line for the axe, tv revenues are up, Richardson's strategic plan will be in soon with expansion a true possibility, if not at an nrl level then at least at the 2nd tier level. The international game is starting to get the focus it deserves (despite the Kangaroos only playing 1 game this year, and now that the ball is rolling in these areas, they can again focus on grass roots RL. Do you really think the game hasn't come along way in the 3 years since Gallops reign?

 

[DiegoNT]

A huge criticism of Dave Smith's time in charge is that he has been to focused on making money and not enough on fixing the big problems in our game. Well wasn't being constantly underpaid for what is an extremely valuable sport one of those problems? Isn't the lack of funds and investment in certain areas pretty much the cause of most of those problems? So wouldn't making sure the game was earnings what it truly deserves go along way to adressing those problems?

 

[Perth Red]

Troll done good

 

[Perth Red]

The difference is that the nrl now has its own front office cleaned up, and the game is on track to make the money is should of been earning all these years. All areas of the nrl were neglected in the post super-league / gallop area. Since the commission has come in, all these areas suddenly put their hand up for fixing and funding. Grass roots put their hand up, the Bush put their hand up, people wanting the international game stronger put their hand up, under funded current clubs put their hand, affiliated states put their hand up, people wanting expansion put their hand up. All these areas had been ignored for to long. But the nrl can't do nothing for any of these areas if the front office is not strong, and after Gallops reign it was pretty obvious the nrl wasn't as Strong as it should be. Of course the first thing that needed fixing was the nrl itself and I think they've come along way. No clubs are currently in line for the axe, tv revenues are up, Richardson's strategic plan will be in soon with expansion a true possibility, if not at an nrl level then at least at the 2nd tier level. The international game is starting to get the focus it deserves (despite the Kangaroos only playing 1 game this year, and now that the ball is rolling in these areas, they can again focus on grass roots RL. Do you really think the game hasn't come along way in the 3 years since Gallops reign?

I think the game has made massive strides forward in a number of areas under smith and the commission. Doesn't change the fact Grant made promises that were never kept. Maybe he shouldn't have promised what he wasn't ready to deliver? Hopefully the next few years will see the remaining neglected areas of the game addressed. Time will tell.

 

[Perth Red]

A huge criticism of Dave Smith's time in charge is that he has been to focused on making money and not enough on fixing the big problems in our game. Well wasn't being constantly underpaid for what is an extremely valuable sport one of those problems? Isn't the lack of funds and investment in certain areas pretty much the cause of most of those problems? So wouldn't making sure the game was earnings what it truly deserves go along way to adressing those problems?

Tbf he walked into the game when a massive media deal and increased revenue from betting had been done. He had the luxury of having the money banked and deciding how to spend it. Aside from the work on this tv deal and raising marquee game ticket prices what other major time and effort do you think was put in to raise funding in last 3 years? Obviously there was a fair bit involved in the Sydney stadium lobbying.

 

[kbw]

Have you listened to the john grant interview a few threads down from this?

I can only hope that its not just the same as the lip service they have been feeding us, if they act on that then its great news.

A huge criticism of Dave Smith's time in charge is that he has been to focused on making money and not enough on fixing the big problems in our game. Well wasn't being constantly underpaid for what is an extremely valuable sport one of those problems? Isn't the lack of funds and investment in certain areas pretty much the cause of most of those problems? So wouldn't making sure the game was earnings what it truly deserves go along way to adressing those problems?

They have had plenty of money, the game has not been underpaid, more realistically given the relatively small market that the game has its now over paid. Any excess money they have got has one either into the players pockets or more recently straight into the NRL executives as foolishly high salaries.

The lack of funding for junior clubs is a symptom of not caring about it.