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Todd Greenberg has got to go!

Are you happy with Greenberg's performance as CEO?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 5.9%
  • No

    Votes: 86 85.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 9 8.9%

  • Total voters
    101

Perth Red

Post Whore
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TBF a "nest egg" is just money invested. Putting $150mil into a digital department is an investment that could be hugely valuable to the game in the long run (imagine if the ARL not just made money from Paytv feals, but even had a stake in the Fox)

The only difference between this and investing money somewhere else is that this will also have positive impacts on the game as well as making money. But the fact that it will have positive impacts makes it look less like an investment and just like any other cost...

True but that money hasn’t gone into the digital expenditure. That started in 17-18, the nest egg was spent by end of financial year 17 and the digital expenditure had supposedly been budgeted for in 2018 onwards, not prior.

There was also two different nest eggs set up by smith, an investment fund which was for developing the game and a savings fund which was supposed to be put aside for a rainy day. Greenberg spent both
 

taipan

Referee
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22,500
Digital isn’t being paid for until now, do’s costs are in football not admin costs. The loans to clubs isn’t in admin costs. Despite all that the admin costs in last nrl annual report went up way beyond CPI and were the most spent ever. Not on development, not on bailing clubs out but on the nrl and arlc administration of the game.

that $80mill was blown 2 years ago. Debts run up, inheritance spent, loan needed, next tv deal already being spent and can you honestly say despite the $800mill plus spent In Greenbergs term the game is any stronger, bigger or better? Greenberg is conservative in thinking but clearly as big, if not bigger a spend thrift than smith ever was. The nrl accounts clearly show this.

There is waste under this admin and there was a lot under Smith's,a hell of a lot costing many millions of dollars, not directly tied to the current regime.

Smith was tight in some areas, but a waste of monies in others,with consultants,entertainment costs, and had little understanding of the rl environment.

Absolute Crap.journalists have been employed already,they are not charity organisations.They are paid out of money held/bank loan.

The loans to financially strapped clubs come out of current monies held by the admin,not out of fresh air.How long have these clubs been it trouble.

You take on additional people to admin/DO /Integrity etc costs extra which happened.To suggest otherwise is financially delusional.

And the clubs mentioned as being basket cases were costing millions before ,during and after the 2 years ago, in addition to paying out sacked/resigned NRL admin/consultants from Smith and about 4 - 5 others who were on upwards of $600,000 pa.
Smith spent $750,000 on a SFS study.Did soccer/union?

Loan needed.As do other businesses wow.

I've already stated Greenberg is conservative ,you're telling me to suck eggs.

The next Tv deal has been spelt out how it will be spent, wow another surprise.Dopey Grant decided to give the clubs extra largesse out of the next Tv deal, not conservative Greenberg.
Areas covered clubs/grassroots/local civic issues.women rl/DO.Of course it's all been spent.Costs are spiralling FFS.

If Greenberg appointed $600,000 a year nonces who achieved zot,I would agree with you.His predecessor did just that.
The NRL accounts don't show that currently.



NB The code may have had $100m plus in its kitty, if Tv deals had been negotiated correctly.
I also find it amusing you banging on about money wasted by admin,because by joining SL,you guys plus the other SL clubs helped the ARL completely remove the $25m plus they had in the Bank circa 1995-7.The hypocrisy is mind boggling.
 

taipan

Referee
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You keep ignoring those extra expenses are not sitting in the nrl admin line! And digital only started this year, how do you explain the massive nrl admin expense of 16-17?

Are you that thick not to understand some of the journos and the head of the Digital dept ,all highly paid no doubt, have not just arrived as jonny come latelys.The Digital dept had to be set up, it doesn't happen overnight.
I don;t ignore any extra expenses, whether inside the accounts,falling due or expected in the near future.If you do, your business will go out backwards in no time.ala ARU.
 

Stallion

First Grade
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Needs at least three more Sydney clubs for the game to prosper lol
Nine simply isn’t enough.

Ten would be a good number given the growing Sydney population (pushing 6million) And the geographic challenges of Sydney are another factor that invite a decent spread of clubs in this Australias largest city.
 

Stallion

First Grade
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Well, let's start with one and see how we go.

Funnily enough that has occured but a poor superleague "agreement" seen the end of that! Mind you I think the West Coast Pirates are much more appealing & marketable franchise. Always wondered if these NRL 'visionaries' ever contemplated a Western Suburbs Magpie trasplant to WA similar to the way the AFL have done? Now that would have been preferred by fans compared to a merger! The West Coast Magpies. (In black and white with a well known Magpie moto in place!) But no we have nothing like this contemplated by these NRL 'strategists '. And this tact should have occured decades ago when the superleague "smiling assassin " handshake was happening! And the Balmain Campbelltown Tigers may have got teeth as well? But none of this constructive and forward thinking is reflected in the NRL 'strategic ' thoughts.
 
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taipan

Referee
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22,500
Well, let's start with one and see how we go.

Never been against a Perth club when the time is fiancially ripe.Just against a perpetual whiner, who does not give a jot about Sydney clubs and their fans.No names no pack drill.

BTW we did start with one, and they decided in their wisdom to suck up to Rupert.Just saying.
 

Vee

First Grade
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Never been against a Perth club when the time is fiancially ripe.Just against a perpetual whiner, who does not give a jot about Sydney clubs and their fans.No names no pack drill.

BTW we did start with one, and they decided in their wisdom to suck up to Rupert.Just saying.
...shakes head...rolls eyes... need some decent emojis.
 

The Great Dane

First Grade
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Never been against a Perth club when the time is fiancially ripe.Just against a perpetual whiner, who does not give a jot about Sydney clubs and their fans.No names no pack drill.

BTW we did start with one, and they decided in their wisdom to suck up to Rupert.Just saying.

Ahh so did the Sharks, just saying.
 

T-Boon

Coach
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Ten would be a good number given the growing Sydney population (pushing 6million)

I would agree with this if we were trying to market the game to asians and other ethnicities. We don't seem the slightest bit interested in doing that. In actual fact the game seems marketed to about 1/10th of Sydneys population. The big boys.
 

Delboy

First Grade
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Under Toddy Boy, the game appears to be directed to those who live in a 5km radius of NRL HQ, they pay little attention to western Sydney and do their best to avoid any scrutiny of clubs like the Roosetrs. Oh well, can't think of a worse administrator than the current one, then again Gallop was toast too.
 

Stallion

First Grade
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I would agree with this if we were trying to market the game to asians and other ethnicities. We don't seem the slightest bit interested in doing that. In actual fact the game seems marketed to about 1/10th of Sydneys population. The big boys.

Good point TBoon! I'm certain other demographics and ethnicities would welcome the chance to play and follow rugby league. You only have look at the other fledgling nations taking interest in the code around the wolrd. It's a very attractive and beneficial code for the community at large.
 
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siv

First Grade
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They might not be happy, but it is clearly ok. The reality is that you cant have a team in every suburb...

9 teams is Sydney is preventing teams in expansion areas. As every expansion location in the NRL has shown, rationalisation does not kill RL.

If you think Sydney is special and they are the only ones who need a team in every suburb, then you should explain what makes Sydney so different. If you think 4 team in western Sydney is more important than one team is Perth, you are delusional...

Depends on your model for the elite competition

Eg #of teams and # of rounds

In a 18 team 25 round comp 9 teams in Sydney is fine with 9 regional teams

But to get back to a 12 team with 22 rounds comp means culling or relegating 4 teams let alone trying to add any new teams. You revert back to a post SL War criteria again
 

Stallion

First Grade
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7,467
Depends on your model for the elite competition

Eg #of teams and # of rounds

In a 18 team 25 round comp 9 teams in Sydney is fine with 9 regional teams

But to get back to a 12 team with 22 rounds comp means culling or relegating 4 teams let alone trying to add any new teams. You revert back to a post SL War criteria again

And disaster!
 
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