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Todd Greenberg stands down

tri_colours

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QUOTE="betcats, post: 14086575, member: 33250"]No. There was no reason to talk about the games revenue when they were talking about the cost of running the game, It’s not cherry picking at all.[/QUOTE]


Don't they go hand in hand? If revenue has increased three fold in the last 8 years you can hardly expect costs not to have gone up.
 

lockyno1

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As all the numbers/facts on growth over the last 4 years prove.........pleaseeeeeeeeee

This is a media driven culling, maybe Greenberg was going to make Nine pay full freight ie. stick to the original contract?

Maybe he was not keen on coming back to playing so soon which would have angered News Ltd.

What I do know is the "financial mismanagement" rubbish is a smokescreen for the real reason.

Yet the game is boring (well more boring than the 90's) and the refereeing is an all time low. Lets not mention the he has overseen a period where crowds aren't growing that much. Buck stops at the CEO
 

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Yet the game is boring (well more boring than the 90's) and the refereeing is an all time low. Lets not mention the he has overseen a period where crowds aren't growing that much. Buck stops at the CEO

clubs set ticket prices, choose venues and are in charge of recruiting members. Aside from the tv schedule how much are the nrl responsible for crowds?
 

Perth Red

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You want them to report the nrl in the best light possible always and because they haven’t it’s misleading and cherry picking etc, that’s delusional PR. The game is profitable, they have talked about our surplus many times so unless people think the NRL have a money tree growing somewhere then of course there is revenue being generated and more money is coming in then going out, do you really think people don’t understand how a surplus is achieved???

BS, it is untrue whatever way you look at it, the nrl DOES NOT spend $500k a day running the game. There is no validity to that claim. They haven’t said the nrl is spending $500k a day and left it to the reader to decide if that is a good or bad thing. Every time this false figure is mentioned it is in the same paragraph as opinions that the nrl has wasted its money or Greenberg has blown the games cash.

I want them to report accurately and without bias, that is what a decent journalist should be doing.

I think going by social media on these stories most fans have no idea how to read full stop! It’s all in the annual report but people just swallow the media agenda and agree with it, no matter how inaccurate it is, the number of posts from fans that have said “the nrl is wasting $500k a day” is mind boggling!
 

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AnonymousLurker

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Todd wasn’t the one who was taking those photos

no he wasn’t but he didn’t stand up for players or game for the invasion of privacy so if the same happens to him I have no sympathy . Same when nine did same thing a year or two earlier with the dogs with those high powered mics
 

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BS, it is untrue whatever way you look at it, the nrl DOES NOT spend $500k a day running the game. There is no validity to that claim. They haven’t said the nrl is spending $500k a day and left it to the reader to decide if that is a good or bad thing. Every time this false figure is mentioned it is in the same paragraph as opinions that the nrl has wasted its money or Greenberg has blown the games cash.

I want them to report accurately and without bias, that is what a decent journalist should be doing.

I think going by social media on these stories most fans have no idea how to read full stop! It’s all in the annual report but people just swallow the media agenda and agree with it, no matter how inaccurate it is, the number of posts from fans that have said “the nrl is wasting $500k a day” is mind boggling!

We are going around in circles.

How much time do you waste reading people’s comments of Facebook? The comments section on Facebook is not a good indication of anything, I’d consider most of those people the lowest common denominator not the average. Facebook is the most biased rubbish media ever.

Unbiased reporting? Where does that actually exist? It’s a nice idea but it’s a fantasy, lower you’re expectations or stop reading the rubbish.
 
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...p/news-story/8d93060c3b48dbaabe0c6a612167ac8d

Paul Kent: Why Todd Greenberg’s time as NRL CEO was up

It has taken the current crisis affecting the world to fast-track what was always inevitable. Following Todd Greenberg’s departure rugby league has the opportunity to thrive, writes PAUL KENT.

A little class was restored at the NRL on Monday.

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys meeting with NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg to discuss his departure was both necessary and urgent.

All that remained was when and how.

The whisper went around last Friday that Greenberg was about to be moved on. It was said to be “imminent”.

V’landys, in a late Friday night phone call, refused to speculate. All he said was it was “sensitive”.

It was totally unhelpful. It was no good even speculating on the story because it was already believed Greenberg would be moved on soon.

Most believed it would come shortly after the season resumed on May 28. Give the game a little time to settle down before taking the boss down.

Friday’s whispers, though, brought a focus to Tuesday’s ARL Commission meeting. Was it possible, given the timing, that Greenberg’s departure might be ratified at the board meeting?

V’landys refused to leak and whatever deal was done was done quickly, with nothing leaked, and Greenberg was given enough time to decide to resign on Monday.

Finally things are looking up, after looking down last week.

Greenberg spent last week failing again.

The Warriors are in many ways the linchpin for the season resumption to succeed. If they refused to travel to Australia then the competition immediately becomes weaker.

During a phone hook-up last week Warriors chief executive Cameron George complained of being ignored by the NRL.

George had asked for simple details on the plans to relocate the Warriors to Australia. Basic logistics like where, when and how.

The NRL failed to respond to the questions. Emails were ignored.

The Warriors, left hanging, felt disrespected and frustrated. Especially given the sacrifice they were being asked to make.

Finally, during a hook-up between Greenberg, V’landys and George last week the Warriors boss gave voice to his frustration and V’landys listened on, stunned.

He turned his attention to Greenberg.

Why hadn’t he dealt with it? How come he had ignored them?

It was basic business in some ways, and so important in others, yet Greenberg failed to give the Warriors any answers.

George’s frustration is not an uncommon complaint from the clubs.

They all have a story to tell.

It was clear Greenberg has been busy the past few weeks campaigning to save his job.

Powerbrokers around the game have spoken of their phones buzzing and Greenberg’s name lighting up the screen, a call from out of the blue. He was calling as a courtesy, of course, merely to check their pulse. See how they were going.

He was left out of high-level meetings with the broadcasters. He was left off the Innovation Committee, tasked to get the competition started again, and so at one of their early meetings they looked up surprised as Greenberg turned up to drop off some notes and duly stayed on.

In some ways, Monday’s decision was a return to the very best of rugby league.

In recent years the NRL has been nothing short of a propaganda unit. Agendas and misinformation were deliberately leaked to mask the poor job being done at headquarters.

Muddy the water, make it hard for the fans to know who to believe.

It went back to the very beginning of the Commission era when incoming ARL Commission chairman John Grant told the clubs they were “going to show you how to make money”.

The clubs listened on, stunned, and then watched as the NRL and Commission excluded them from so many major decisions only to foul it up and then try to cover it up.

Just last week, the same week the Warriors were being ignored, V'landys received an email from a club boss complaining of more inaction from headquarters.

When the clubs and NRL negotiated $1.21 million rescue package last month, to get them through May, April and June, the NRL banked their money on April 1 but for reasons nobody is still quite sure held back $23,000 from each club.

It was only when V'landys was made aware that the NRL sent through each club’s remaining $23,000.

The NRL has such a dire cash flow problem it had taken to penny-pinching from the clubs, perhaps hoping the amount was so small the clubs would not complain.

It is one small example among many.

It has taken the current crisis affecting the world to fast-track what was always inevitable.

The game has done a poor job of managing its finances through the Commission era but now has a chance to correct itself. In some ways, the COVID-19 crisis will be an opportunity for the NRL.

It has the chance now to correct itself while losing no ground to other sports in the interim because they are being affected, too.

The game finally has a chance to become what it can be. A chance to finally get it right.

To finally get back in the fight and become the biggest football code in Australia.

Finally.
 

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Enjoy you lovers of great jouranlism.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...n/news-story/f44c8fa04ec5f31b0c1f3fc31b09ebe6

There is still much to be done before the NRL can possibly return

As rugby league attempts to rise from the ashes of the disastrous Todd Greenberg administration, the game must conquer numerous financial catastrophes if it is to return on May 28th, writes PAUL KENT

As rugby league attempts to rise from the ashes of the disastrous Todd Greenberg administration, the game must conquer numerous financial catastrophes if it is to return on May 28th, writes PAUL KENT.

The mood inside League Central on Tuesday, a day after the boss failed to return, was about as solemn as a Supreme Court photograph.

NRL head of football Graham Annesley had his weekly meeting with his football staff over Zoom and the questions were a little more urgent but he had few answers for them.

They wanted to know when they were needed back at work and how many games the new competition would have, when was Origin going to be played, and Annesley’s answer was the same as it was around the rest of the game.

Nobody knows anything until ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys and the broadcasters, Channel 9 and Fox Sports, have reached some sort of resolution about what the revised broadcast deal looks like.

Clubs are asking the same questions as Annesley’s staff.

Several Sydney clubs began talking to staff on Tuesday about possible resumption dates but each was the same. The conversations were light on detail.

Just who and how many are required, and when they will be needed, can’t be decided until someone has some kind of idea what the resumed competition looks like.

It is for these reasons the new broadcast negotiations will be done in record time.


There is now just 36 days until the competition is scheduled to return.

V’landys met with Foxtel chief executive Patrick Delany and will meet with Channel 9 boss Hugh Marks as early as Wednesday.

Once he has the positions of each broadcaster they will come together in the hope of finding common ground.

It is hoped there will be a resolution as early as Friday.

If so, it will be some kind of small miracle. Tens of millions of dollars are at stake and rarely are decisions made so quickly.

Already the talk is of a significant cut to this year’s broadcast deal. The NRL will counter with an offer of more money and, as a trade, the potential to extend the current contract, potentially with some of the money from the final year to be paid upfront now.

Marks has already spoken of as much and it is a position the NRL is comfortable making.

The revised broadcast deal will be the first financial reset the game will undertake.

The clubs are pushing for more financial transparency, which V’landys has promised.

The salary cap will be taken to with some kind of heavy machinery and football departments will be slashed considerably.

The hope is that by the end of it the NRL and clubs and players settle on a fair position, and a sustainable one.

It might be a great move forward for the game.

The NRL has carried the perception since the Commission era began that clubs could not be trusted with their own money and so should be kept safe from themselves.

Only the NRL began carrying on with the same financial deception it labelled the clubs with.

It began unravelling this year when the COVID-19 crisis hit and the NRL announced it had $104 million in the bank. Clubs were told another $25 million in receivables brought the amount to $129 million. The clubs felt nervous but confident.

I am sure that, at this time, the NRL had no idea the severity of what was about to hit so felt comfortable speaking with a little bravado.

But then the true figures came out.

The $129 million included a $49 million deferred liability payment to be paid back by 2022. The $25 million in receivables was realistically only $15 million.

So the $129 million was really $70 million.

Then it got worse.

The players asked for access to their hardship fund, given it was a full-blown crisis.

The NRL had to reveal it had not actually been banking their money. The agreement, they limply pointed out, was that the money had to be in their account at the end of the broadcast cycle.

Elsewhere, the clubs, because the NRL believed they could not be trusted, were ordered to pay money each season into a distressed clubs fund.

Again, with the clubs in some distress, the NRL did not have it either.

Everyone knows the NRL pays the clubs $13 million a season, which should be more than enough with a salary cap under $10 million.

But the club grant is back-ended in much the same way the NRL has been critical of clubs back-ending player contracts.

Funding in 2018 was $12.567 million, growing incrementally each year until the 2022 grant of $13.633 million.

But even from that the NRL claws back a significant amount in forced payments on the clubs that undermined the relationship.

Each year each club is asked to pay $110,000 for statistics, $178,000 for the NRL’s digital department, $150,000 for career-ending hardship fund, $188,000 for distressed club reserves and $60,000 cash after the NRL put a clause in for clubs to save money each year.

The NRL also stopped funding clubs from taking games to regional areas, making clubs not only have to pay for taking games away but obligating them to pay for the referees’ equipment, too.

They also reduced each club’s merchandise royalties from 40 per cent to 20 per cent, which worked out to be about an extra $60,000 in cash stripped from each club.

That is nearly three-quarters of a million dollars clubs never get to see for services, some of which they don’t even want.

But the NRL is in the insult business.

So when the clubs and NRL negotiated a $1.21 million rescue package last month, to get them through May, April and June, the NRL held back $23,000 from each club, banking only $1.187 million into each club’s bank accounts on April 1.

V’landys needed to intervene to force the NRL to pay its own clubs the amount they had agreed to pay.

So he comes together this week, with Delany and Marks, hoping to get done in a week what it usually takes many more months to get done.

The entire game is hoping they get it done.
 

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So there was a phone call between Greenbald, V'l'a'n'd'y's and George which was the crunch point.

Greenbald wouldn't have leaked it. V'l'a'n'd'y's doesn't leak according to Kent. So that leaves George or that it's fiction.
 

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