Top 20 Kangaroos of the Past 30 Years...

[Big Pete]

He was easily one of NSW's best this series and thoroughly earnt his selection in 2009. Hell, he was unlucky not to make the 2009 Four Nations team.

Really don't get your opinion of TLL at all.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

C'mon he's not that good. I picked 20 blokes who probably least deserved to make the Australian team. It just proves that the vast majority of players do deserve it and go on to play a lot of Tests to a high standard. He has not done this yet you have to admit.

 

[Big Pete]

Over the past two years TLL has easily been one of the most destructive forwards in the game. He definitely has earnt his place and should've been there last year.

Hell, he would've made it sooner had he not suffered so many bad injuries.

I just don't get the point of putting him on a list of 'worst players'.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

As I said maybe it shows how few ordinary players have played for Australia.

 

[typicalfan]

considering he outplayed Shillington and Myles comfortably on the weekend.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

You can replace him with Myles if you like. Forgot about him.

 

[Big Pete]

Won't disagree with you there ECT. I just found it odd that you were having a dig at a player who's only played one test and for all intents and purposes played pretty damn well I thought.

Besides, I thought Brett White, Antonio Kaufusi, Anthony Laffranchi, Anthony Tupou, Ryan Hoffman or Trent Waterhouse would've got a run before him. Hell, maybe even Daniel Wagon.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Did Wagon ever actually play? I thought of him, almost immediately, but I'm not 100 per cent sure he actually got a run. It was just off the top of my head. I could certainly add those names in, especially Hoffman. And I forgot Creagh too. I think Waterhouse, Laffranchi and White are harsh. Especially Laffranchi, he was very good in the WC. I forgot Luke Rooney too. He could get a jumper.

 

[Big Pete]

I didn't think much of Laffranchi and thought he was apart of the reason why we were so easily thwarted in the forwards.

And you're right, he didn't play. I read awhile back that he debuted but it must've been him just making the squad in 2001.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I remember had Laffranchi in my WC fantasy team and he was the top scoring Australian player. He did a lot of work. I think you can look elsewhere for the ordinary performance in the WC final. Australia was good in every other game and in that one there were some other ordinary performers, including G Stewart who was far less good than Laffranchi in the backrow.

 

[MSIH]

If you thought Daniel Gartner was ordinary, then give the game away.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

FFS it's a list of the least good of the best players. Gartner only played for Australia during SL.

 

[Big Pete]

Fantasy is basically the only league Laffranchi dominates.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

In fact on closer inspection he only played one Test, and at a time when SL players weren't included. So the only reason he's unlucky to be on the list is because he was lucy to have played for Australia at all.

 

[Whoosh]

ECT's team probably needs a bit more Danny Moore.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I considered Danny Moore actually. But I didn't want to pick every player from the 1995-97 era.

 

[Big Pete]

ECT - Surprised not to see Brad Meyers or Dane Carlaw either.

Carl Webb even.

Seriously, when you make a list of s**tty players you've got to put maximum effort.

 

[RWB]

Must be a very slow news day.

I think that halfbacks and five-eighths are WAY over-represented on this list. And it contains guys who weren't that dominant at international level. From the old tapes I've seen, Lewis did not bring his State of Origin game to the international arena, and guys like Elias, Daley and even Fittler probably don't deserve to be listed in the greatest kangaroos of the last 30 years.

Would be better served by making an imaginary best 17. I'll admit I'm biased toward current players, because I never watched a lot of league before 2000, but maybe we can put together a much more accurate list.

1. Slater (maybe Mullins or Belcher?)
2.
3.
4. Meninga
5.
6. Lockyer
7. Johns
8. Webcke
9. Cameron Smith
10. Civoniceva
11.Tallis
12.
13.

14.
15.
16.
17.

I swear though, if any clueless Knights fan puts Kurt Gidley on that list...

Why doesn't Fittler deserve to be mentioned but someone like Tallis does, that's got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

You were right when you said you were biased to current players but you forgot to mention Queenslanders as well it seems.

Seriously... Tallis?

 

[RWB]

C'mon he's not that good. I picked 20 blokes who probably least deserved to make the Australian team. It just proves that the vast majority of players do deserve it and go on to play a lot of Tests to a high standard. He has not done this yet you have to admit.

Seriously and you left out blokes like Josh Perry & Brett White for TLL. :lol:

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Like I said I just did it off the top of my head so give me a break.