Top 5 at each position

[campbo]

Fullback

Slater
Boyd
Dugan
Hayne
Stewart

Wing

Vatuvei
Uate
Gordon
Nightingale
Yow Yeh

Centre

Inglis
Hodges
Lawrence
Jennings
Cooper

5/8

Marshall
Foran
Maloney
Carney
Campese

Half

Thurston
Cronk
Johnson
Cherry-Evans
Prince

Prop

Scott
Burgess
Graham
Civoniceva
Rapira

Hooker

Smith
Farah
Luke
Ballin
Ennis

2nd row

Thaiday
Ellis
Pritchard
Bird
Mateo

Lock

Gallen
Lewis
Stewart
Parker
Johnson

 

[betcats]

So what we deduce from this thread is that Foran and DCE are way overrated. Stewart is an average FB, Ballin only looks good because he has overrated halves to pass to, our props are all shit, Stewart isn't in the top 5 locks in the game (which would make him average at best) and Watmough may or may not be considered in the top 5 second rowers. They're all made to look better than they are by the talent around them. Considering the above, that means the talent is pretty much Jamie Lyon (he must be the one making the others look good). Geez, Lyon must be the best player to ever lace on a pair of boots because he's carried this team of nuffies to 2 premierships, one by a record score. But even then, he's about the 3rd or 4th best centre in the game.

:crazy:

Basically Manly is a disgusting club that we all hate and credit where credit is due does not count for scum like Manly.

 

[hitman82]

Using the scientific methodology of if we were in the schoolyard who would I pick 1st to 5th, with some thought to actual form, Id go.

Fullbacks:
1. Billy Slater
2. Darius Boyd
3. Jarryd Hayne
4. Brett Stewart
5. Matty Bowen (Kevin Locke)

Wingers:
1. Akuila Uate
2.Jason Nightingale
3. Michael Gordon
4. Manu Vatuvei
5. Jharal Yow Yeh

Centers:
1. Greg Inglis
2. Jamie Lyon
3. Chris Lawrence
4. Justin Hodges
5. Jack Reed

Five Eighths
1. Benji Marshall
2. Kieran Foran
3. Todd Carney
4. James Maloney
5. Jamie Soward

Halfbacks
1. Jonathan Thurston
2. Cooper Cronk
3. Daly Cherry-Evans
4. Shaun Johnson
5. Mitchell Pearce

Props:
1. Matthew Scott
2. Petero Civinoceva
3. Ben Hannant
4. Aiden Tolman
5. Russell Packer (Ben Matulino)

Hookers:
1. Cameron Smith
2. Robbie Farah
3. Matt Ballin
4. Jake Friend (Nathan Friend)
5. Michael Ennis

Locks
1. Glenn Stewart
2. Luke Lewis
3. Paul Gallen
4. Corey Parker
5. Greg Bird

Second Rowers
1. Gareth Ellis
2. Adam Blair
3. Sam Thaiday
4. Simon Mannering
5. Anthony Watmough

I'm not his biggest fan, but probably about time someone mentioned Mannering. Apart from a couple of tweaks I would agree with your list.

 

[firechild]

Basically Manly is a disgusting club that we all hate and credit where credit is due does not count for scum like Manly.

Nothing wrong with hating us. Makes it all the sweeter when we win premierships knowing you lot are shedding a few tears while we celebrate.

 

[betcats]

Whatever firey, you act like you like being hated but then have a whinge everytime someone says something you dont like about Manly or their players.

 

[hitman82]

^ I like how you used a pet name. You guys should hook up

 

[firechild]

Whatever firey, you act like you like being hated but then have a whinge everytime someone says something you dont like about Manly or their players.

Not at all. In the f*ckwith player thread I never opposed people's desire to hate Watmough, Matai, Stewart or anyone else (though I did suggest the Rose hatred was a bit strange). It does take a lot of hatred though to fool yourself into thinking that Manly is full of average players.

 

[POPEYE]

Hatred is the food of rednecks. In all seriousness without the right of reply no player deserves to be hated for his behaviour on or off the field.

Criticism in a rational manner sure but only if you are prepared to say what you think to his face. Taking the piss out of rednecks aside
I have no fear of saying what I think face to face to anyone about anything . . . nor copping a return serve

 

[Hutty1986]

I was just about to say, hatred is the food of rednecks.

 

[hitman82]

Hatred is the food of rednecks. In all seriousness without the right of reply no player deserves to be hated for his behaviour on or off the field.

Criticism in a rational manner sure but only if you are prepared to say what you think to his face. Taking the piss out of rednecks aside
I have no fear of saying what I think face to face to anyone about anything . . . nor copping a return serve

you're some kind of Ghandi motherf**ker. Intense

 

[betcats]

Not at all. In the f*ckwith player thread I never opposed people's desire to hate Watmough, Matai, Stewart or anyone else (though I did suggest the Rose hatred was a bit strange). It does take a lot of hatred though to fool yourself into thinking that Manly is full of average players.

I never said that. Manly has some great players. In fact the only Manly player i really dont like is Matai and occasionally Watmong will shit me.

 

[firechild]

I never said that. Manly has some great players. In fact the only Manly player i really dont like is Matai and occasionally Watmong will shit me.

And I wasn't specifically referring to you. It was a summation of the views of the general LU population (though it seems to be more common in views from Parra fans - but their delusion is apparant since they still rate Hindmarsh).

 

[betcats]

Dont get me started on Parra.

 

[POPEYE]

I never said that. Manly has some great players. In fact the only Manly player i really dont like is Matai and occasionally Watmong will shit me.

We agree on something

 

[POPEYE]

you're some kind of Ghandi motherf**ker. Intense

I used to like facing up to so called hitmen . . . win or lose. Never let a bit of blood get in the way of a challenge

 

[POPEYE]

Using the scientific methodology of if we were in the schoolyard who would I pick 1st to 5th, with some thought to actual form, Id go.

Fullbacks:
1. Billy Slater
2. Darius Boyd
3. Jarryd Hayne
4. Brett Stewart
5. Matty Bowen

Wingers:
1. Akuila Uate
2.Jason Nightingale
3. Michael Gordon
4. Manu Vatuvei
5. Jharal Yow Yeh

Centers:
1. Greg Inglis
2. Jamie Lyon
3. Chris Lawrence
4. Justin Hodges
5. Jack Reed

Five Eighths
1. Benji Marshall
2. Kieran Foran
3. Todd Carney
4. James Maloney
5. Jamie Soward

Halfbacks
1. Jonathan Thurston
2. Cooper Cronk
3. Daly Cherry-Evans
4. Shaun Johnson
5. Mitchell Pearce

Props:
1. Matthew Scott
2. Petero Civinoceva
3. Ben Hannant
4. Aiden Tolman
5. Russell Packer

Hookers:
1. Cameron Smith
2. Robbie Farah
3. Matt Ballin
4. Jake Friend
5. Michael Ennis

Locks
1. Glenn Stewart
2. Luke Lewis
3. Paul Gallen
4. Corey Parker
5. Greg Bird

Second Rowers
1. Gareth Ellis
2. Adam Blair
3. Sam Thaiday
4. Simon Mannering
5. Anthony Watmough

Best I've seen so far if being realistic means anything here. Your list should have 'on a good day' as a proviso to have Marshall as best

 

[StormHi]

All of the games He plays IMO Hodges is just a passenger atm. I don't thin he has adjusted his offence to the modern day sliding defence. Still think he is a weapon but nowhere near what he used to be.

 

[Raider_69]

So what we deduce from this thread is that Foran and DCE are way overrated. Stewart is an average FB, Ballin only looks good because he has overrated halves to pass to, our props are all shit, Stewart isn't in the top 5 locks in the game (which would make him average at best) and Watmough may or may not be considered in the top 5 second rowers. They're all made to look better than they are by the talent around them. Considering the above, that means the talent is pretty much Jamie Lyon (he must be the one making the others look good). Geez, Lyon must be the best player to ever lace on a pair of boots because he's carried this team of nuffies to 2 premierships, one by a record score. But even then, he's about the 3rd or 4th best centre in the game.

:crazy:

seems a tad ridiculous doesnt it

Stewart is over rated because his halves do all the creative stuff and he can just focus on being a fullback, and the last thing you ever want from your fullback is him being able to concentrate on being one of the games premier full... never mind

the hooker is average because he, he has good halves to deliver too and they do all the creative stuff so he's just a tackling machine, which again the last thing you want from a hooker is good, quick, clean service with pace to get out and take the ball to the line and dish off his his creative halves... actually, id f**king kill for that at Canberra.

And the halves are over-rated because even though they do all the creative stuff and allow the hooker to just focus on the things hookers should be focused on, and allow the fullback to just do what a fullback does... they are made to look better than they are because of a ball playing back rower and a centre who can create plays

Its like saying that the melbourne spine is made to look better than it is, Slater, Cronk and Smith, all over-rated because of Ryan Hoffman and Greg Inglis

Can scrub O'Davis, Johns and Buderus off the list of great spines too, they were being propped up by Matt Giddley and BK

Or that mullins, stuart, daley and walters were all over-rated because they had Mal Meninga and Brad Clyde helping them.

Or in terms Poo Poo will understand, that Taylor, Kenny, Sterling and Edge were all average players because Cronin, Ella, Grothe and Price we're giving them legs up elsewhere.

Its an absurd arguement

 

[Big Pete]

Stewart is over rated because his halves do all the creative stuff and he can just focus on being a fullback, and the last thing you ever want from your fullback is him being able to concentrate on being one of the games premier full... never mind

When he can last a season and takes on the responsibility of a Bowen or a Boyd then we can talk about him being a step above them.

 

[firechild]

Why does he need to take on the responsibility of being a half as well as a FB when he has 2 of the best halves in the comp? Boyd had to because the Dragons' halves aren't great and Bowen had to because Thurston was otherwise trying to run the team on his own. For Manly to be successful, Stewart simply has to move into the backline movements and cross the tryline, he does both. His defense is as good as any other FB as he showed with his trysaver in the midseason game against Brisbane.