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[Twizzle]

Oh dear that's a bit of a fail Twizzle.

massive fail, I read that as Abiatti

some one please shoot me

 

[boxhead]

Won league title Porto, thats hard
Won league title at chelsea spending 300+ million dollars, thats hard
Won league title at Inter... Again spending a bucket load, whilst also against a Ac milan team with an avg age of 29.8 and on a extreme decline? Again that was hard.
Won league in Spain, spent 115 + mill in 2 seasons buying Ozil,Carvalho,Di Maria,Khedira,Canales,Sahin,Varane,Coentrao,Modric...... Well that must of been hard.

So in the enf his Porto CL is the best thing he has done, other than that hes bought his way everywhere he goes.

And no he rarely, if at all developed a young player.

So tell me, if Mourinho won the Champions League at Porto and that is his best achievement, what is Wenger's best achievement? Mind you, Wenger is the manager that you have been implying is superior to Mourinho for development skills that you have not as yet provided any hard evidence for.

You are so delusional it hurts....and so stupid it is humorous :lol:

 

[AusKnightRKO]

How many teams have won the Premier League Undefeated?

Again like i said find me a list of youngsters he has developed into a big stars?

But as you insist, would have arsenal performed better under the managerial skills of Jose Mourinho during the 7 years of debt Via Building a new stadium with arsenal? with a transfer budget less than 15 mill a year and having to sell stars to pay off the debt.

Mourinho is a smart man, and a great tactician, he gone to clubs where, he know success will not be hard to come by, does that mean he is a bad coach no, just means for my club i would be happy to never see him set foot in an office in Ashburton Grove.

The Bloke is over rated IMO, but again thats only my opinion, i dont believe he would e successful if he had to build a winning/competitive franchise on a small budget.

That is also why i believe that Manchester United is in great shape with Moyes.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Can we have the Wenger list yet?

 

[boxhead]

How many teams have won the Premier League Undefeated?

Again like i said find me a list of youngsters he has developed into a big stars?

But as you insist, would have arsenal performed better under the managerial skills of Jose Mourinho during the 7 years of debt Via Building a new stadium with arsenal? with a transfer budget less than 15 mill a year and having to sell stars to pay off the debt.

Mourinho is a smart man, and a great tactician, he gone to clubs where, he know success will not be hard to come by, does that mean he is a bad coach no, just means for my club i would be happy to never see him set foot in an office in Ashburton Grove.

The Bloke is over rated IMO, but again thats only my opinion, i dont believe he would e successful if he had to build a winning/competitive franchise on a small budget.

That is also why i believe that Manchester United is in great shape with Moyes.

How many managers have won the UCL with two different teams? Here's a hint; not many. And sorry to rain over your delusions, but winning those two UCLs will go down as a far greater accomplishment that one undefeated season in the league.

As TT said, you still have yet to say anything about all those players Wenger apparently developed. At Real Madrid alone, Ozil developed into a truly world class player, with Angel Di Maria and Karim Benzema improving out of sight in the first two years. Marcelo got better and better, and he nurtured Varane very well.

And yes, I would say that Arsenal would have done far better with Mourinho at the helm. Wenger's tactics and substitutions often lose him the game, a deficiency that Mourinho does not share.

He's won more titles for four different clubs than Wenger has won with a single club. If Wenger emulates the success at another two or three teams, then maybe you might have some validation for your little fantasy. But as it stands, anyone with half a brain knows that to do what Mourinho did with four different clubs in four different countries is absolutely unreal.

Oh, right, and Mourinho has won 20 titles in eleven years as a manager. Wenger has won 15 titles in twenty nine years as a manager. End of story. Want to try and say Wenger is better again, moron?

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Ashley Cole, Thierry Henry,Cesc Fabregas,Robin Van Perie,Kolo Toure, Alexandre Song,Mathieu Flamini, Gael Clichy, Jack Wilshere,Wojcech Szczesny, Abou Diaby but there really is no need

 

[aqua_duck]

Wenger is without doubt the best manager when it comes to identifying and developing young players, he turned guys like Henry, RVP, Cesc, Vieira, Kolo Toure, Cashley Cole, Anelka, etc from guys with potential to world class players, credit where credit is due but let's face it Arsenal think of themselves as a big club but he's forgotten how to win

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Ashley Cole, Thierry Henry,Cesc Fabregas,Robin Van Perie,Kolo Toure, Alexandre Song,Mathieu Flamini, Gael Clichy, Jack Wilshere,Wojcech Szczesny, Abou Diaby but there really is no need

Too easy

Alaba is Austrian, He played his entire youth career at austria vienna ( Wien), until he was bought by Bayern and put into Bayern 2

How many played their entire youth career at Arsenal?

How about in the last 3-4 years like you specified with Bayern?

 

[AusKnightRKO]

How many managers have won the UCL with two different teams? Here's a hint; not many. And sorry to rain over your delusions, but winning those two UCLs will go down as a far greater accomplishment that one undefeated season in the league.

As TT said, you still have yet to say anything about all those players Wenger apparently developed. At Real Madrid alone, Ozil developed into a truly world class player, with Angel Di Maria and Karim Benzema improving out of sight in the first two years. Marcelo got better and better, and he nurtured Varane very well.

And yes, I would say that Arsenal would have done far better with Mourinho at the helm. Wenger's tactics and substitutions often lose him the game, a deficiency that Mourinho does not share.

He's won more titles for four different clubs than Wenger has won with a single club. If Wenger emulates the success at another two or three teams, then maybe you might have some validation for your little fantasy. But as it stands, anyone with half a brain knows that to do what Mourinho did with four different clubs in four different countries is absolutely unreal.

Oh, right, and Mourinho has won 20 titles in eleven years as a manager. Wenger has won 15 titles in twenty nine years as a manager. End of story. Want to try and say Wenger is better again, moron?

Cool so who would have Mourinho bought to make Arsenal better, i Assume Fabregas,RVP,Song,Rosicky,Kos,Wojcech, Vermaelen, Ramsey, Gibbs, Would have never played for us, he would have somehow found half a billion dollars lying on the road and bought players with that.

So again,

He won the Porto title in a League where they won a title the last 7 of 8 years..... Wow LEGEND!!!!! wow the UCL, but fk me Greece Won Euro aswell it was a weird year

Went to Chelsea bought everyone with a pulse against 2 teams re building...... WOW Legend

Went to Inter Won the title there, where Ac Milan his only Challenger Avg squad age was close to 30 and on an extreme decline.... WOW Legend

Went to Real, Spent shit loads Failed, did it again won the title, then the next season got DESTROYED.... LEGEND!!!!

Give me SAF,Wenger,Pellegrini,Conte,Moyes anyday of the week of the ego maniac clown.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Too easy



How many played their entire youth career at Arsenal?

How about in the last 3-4 years like you specified with Bayern?

Giibbs,Wojcech,Johan Djourou,Frimpong, JACK WILSHERE... good god, you say its easy, he is one of the best talent scouts in history.

And its Funny, all those players on that list cost less combined Excluding Henry than what mario mand?ukić cost(And no im not saying hes a badplayer, great striker) , World Class at Spotting Talent

 

[boxhead]

Cool so who would have Mourinho bought to make Arsenal better, i Assume Fabregas,RVP,Song,Rosicky,Kos,Wojcech, Vermaelen, Ramsey, Gibbs, Would have never played for us, he would have somehow found half a billion dollars lying on the road and bought players with that.

So again,

He won the Porto title in a League where they won a title the last 7 of 8 years..... Wow LEGEND!!!!! wow the UCL, but fk me Greece Won Euro aswell it was a weird year

Went to Chelsea bought everyone with a pulse against 2 teams re building...... WOW Legend

Went to Inter Won the title there, where Ac Milan his only Challenger Avg squad age was close to 30 and on an extreme decline.... WOW Legend

Went to Real, Spent shit loads Failed, did it again won the title, then the next season got DESTROYED.... LEGEND!!!!

Give me SAF,Wenger,Pellegrini,Conte,Moyes anyday of the week of the ego maniac clown.

Dear lord :lol::lol: You are clutching at straws trying to make out that Mourinho's far stronger list of achievements - twenty titles in half the time it took Wenger to win fifteen - is inferior to Wenger because of "talent identification". Where has that gotten Arsenal recently? Oh, right, 0 titles in eight seasons. You f**king delusional moron.

Want to know how Mourinho would have made Arsenal stronger? He wouldn't have sh*t tactics and knows how to win games. But hurr-durr, fifteen titles in twenty nine years is so much better than twenty titles in eleven years. :lol::lol:

And tell me, how many of those are world class players? I count three. The rest of them are sh*t or mediocre. Great examples!

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

That's a very average list apart from Wilshere :lol:

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Cole,RVP,Henry,Toure,Fabregas,Wilshere would have walked into 90% of teams around. And Bendtner Believes he should does that count

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Dear lord :lol::lol: You are clutching at straws trying to make out that Mourinho's far stronger list of achievements - twenty titles in half the time it took Wenger to win fifteen - is inferior to Wenger because of "talent identification". Where has that gotten Arsenal recently? Oh, right, 0 titles in eight seasons. You f**king delusional moron.

Want to know how Mourinho would have made Arsenal stronger? He wouldn't have sh*t tactics and knows how to win games. But hurr-durr, fifteen titles in twenty nine years is so much better than twenty titles in eleven years. :lol::lol:

And tell me, how many of those are world class players? I count three. The rest of them are sh*t or mediocre. Great examples!

And yuo say he would have made us stronger, he wouldnt have signed, RVP or Fabregas. He cant spot talent, he can take a Wealthy Built team to glory but not build one from the ground up. But we will agree to disagree.... Is there any Transfer news, Whens the Confed cup start.

Oh and you say he can build for the future, where did his former club, Inter Finish this season, Great Future there.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Cole,RVP,Henry,Toure,Fabregas,Wilshere would have walked into 90% of teams around. And Bendtner Believes he should does that count

Except that RVP, Cesc, Henry & Toure weren't developed by Arsenal as per your criteria with Alaba.

Clearly the average comment was directed at the list including Djourou :lol:

Do keep up.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Except that RVP, Cesc, Henry & Toure weren't developed by Arsenal as per your criteria with Alaba.

Clearly the average comment was directed at the list including Djourou :lol:

Do keep up.

Wasnt talking about your list, so please learn comprehension.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

I don't have a list :?

 

[boxhead]

And yuo say he would have made us stronger, he wouldnt have signed, RVP or Fabregas. He cant spot talent, he can take a Wealthy Built team to glory but not build one from the ground up. But we will agree to disagree.... Is there any Transfer news, Whens the Confed cup start.

Oh and you say he can build for the future, where did his former club, Inter Finish this season, Great Future there.

You mean Inter that were shortly thereafter managed by Rafael Benitez and have sacked manager after managed because the over-paid team are under-performing? Yes, that is clearly Mourinho's fault after winning the UCL with them :roll:

He can take a team built by wealthiness to glory....I'm sorry, but how does that include Porto? And it is laughable that you seem to ignore the fact that, with Chelsea, he was competing in the - your words - "strongest league" against SAF and your own little manager, and again with Inter and Madrid, he was competing against absolutely dominant teams such as Barcelona.

Try looking up Inter beating Barcelona with Mourinho in charge in their glory year and tell me that was due only to Mourinho having heaps of money to spend. It can't have had anything to do with the fact that they were managed well at all when he has beaten several teams with similar/greater financial pull or squads. Nope, nothing to do with managerial quality. Because clearly Real Madrid and Inter had easily the best squads when they won their respective titles with Mourinho at the helm. :crazy:

I don't understand how an Arsenal fan of all people can be this delusional. He makes Bunniesman look like a damned realist!

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Well thats fine then.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Mourinho is a smart man, and a great tactician, he gone to clubs where, he know success will not be hard to come by, does that mean he is a bad coach no, just means for my club i would be happy to never see him set foot in an office in Ashburton Grove.

as you see i never doubted his Tactical skill, he knows how to break down a team that is one of the best things he can do and there are not many better., unless its dortmund or Ath Madrid this season but other than that hes brilliant, my point the whole time is he isn't going to to bring youngsters in and develop them, hes going to bring in WC player with Absurd amounts of cash.