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Triple J Hottest 100

Raider_69

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i like how KOL are get commercial radio time and all of a sudden they are considered sell outs
good on them for producing music that appeals to a wider audience and nets them some decent coin, rather then playing seedy pubs for a couple of bucks
 

Alex28

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KOL are getting radio airtime because they have blatantly written music skewed towards sales and airtime. The new album has pay day written all over it - much much more easy-listening than their earlier stuff. It is bland - and the mainstream population are lapping it up.

Unfortunately it says more about Triple J these days that they are giving the album airplay. That Top 10 is the worst Top 10 of a Hottest 100 probably ever.
 

CC_Eagle

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KOL are getting radio airtime because they have blatantly written music skewed towards sales and airtime. The new album has pay day written all over it - much much more easy-listening than their earlier stuff. It is bland - and the mainstream population are lapping it up.

Unfortunately it says more about Triple J these days that they are giving the album airplay. That Top 10 is the worst Top 10 of a Hottest 100 probably ever.

:clap: X 10

It's the beige jacket, potato soup and Toyota Camry of the music world at the moment. Not interesting, lacking taste and most people are indifferent towards it.

R69 KOL were well above "stinky pubs" prior to BOTT. BDO mainstage anyone?

Some artists value integrity, others the dollars. It's when situations like these arise that you see the true colours of the artist. There are many artists/groups who have maintained their integrity and creative brilliance whilst still increasing their popularity and kitty jar.

Radiohead, Nick Cave and AC/DC are some of the biggest acts in the country/world and yet all despite being around for 15+ years, have recently released what is widely regarded as some of their best work.

Far from the bleak, stale, middle of the road rubbish KOL have dished up.
 

Alehana

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was hoping KOL wouldn't get number 1, (i had a strong feeling they would) because their new album is a sell out, lets face it, u notice how many KOL fans show up all of a sudden now that they are played on radio stations other than tripple j, hoping for grafton primary to be in there, (keep an eye out for them), big year for aussie hip hop, altho while i am a fan of drapht, Bliss n Esso, that song "the king is dead" is the biggest political piece i've heard for a long time, now i'm not a fan of politics in music, for me its like religion and politics, any band that tries to influences its fans to believe what they do i dont agree with,

anyway not the shock of last year with Muse, but had a good time with my mates listenening to it so bring on this years new artists and songs.
 

Alex28

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'The King Is Dead' is quite soft compared to The Herd's earlier stuff - they have toned their stuff down to make sure they keep getting airplay too.

Lets face it - the average new KOL fan would not recognise them if they heard "Molly's Chambers" - their subject tone has completely changed, their lyrics are far more pronounced compared to their early stuff - they are making easy-to-listen-sing-a-long music...which is a great shame because Y&YM and Aha are great albums.

They aren't the first band or artist to give in to label pressure for success - just listen to Ben Harper now compared to his first few albums. His political edge is now non-existent, he makes love songs that mainstream audiences lap up.
 

Godz Illa

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Well from a KOL fan who loves Molly's Chambers and who did comfortably stroll to the front of the stage when they used to play at the Enmore and will shortly fight the get to about middle of the Entertainment Centre dance floor when they play there, I dig all but one song of their most recent album. I might be ignorant or naive (endearingly so, I think) but I'm happy to see one of my favourite bands get exposure and big album sales - I was thrilled to see not only BOTT at number one, but also their three previous releases re-enter the charts as more and more people check out their early work. And despite the groans and eye-rolling of some I reckon the top spot in the hottest 100 is still a pretty nice feather in the cap.
 

Zoidberg

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Ugh how does anyone like that "Electric Feel" song.
The 1st time I heard it (and saw the music clip) I was laughing hysterically I thought it was so bad. And it gets No. 2 in the hottest 100, yuk!
2 of my picks made it, Cog and Butterfly Effect. I shouldn't even care though.
My kind of music is lucky to make it in there at all.

Maybe it's just me but with albums I buy, the better songs are rarely released as singles and never make the top 100, so why should I care which songs peole who only hear stuff on the radio think
 
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IMO kings are too mainstream for JJJ, I think a lot of non triple j listeners come out of the woodwork during hottest 100 time.

Out of the hottest 100 favs were:

The butterfly effect: The window and the watcher (around number 50)
COG: Bird of feather (in the 80s or 90s)
Birds of Tokyo: Broken Bones, Sillhouette and i forget their third song. (10s and 20s)

I cant remember if Trial Kennedy had any songs in the 100 though because i saw these guys supporting the butterfly effect and they were cool, got their album, pretty good! I know they had some in 100-200, The butterfly had 2 songs in 100-200 and COG had a couple as well.... I have the 2 lists mixed up in my head. I would probably enjoy a triple Js hottest 100-200 better lol.

What is good though is the fact that JJJ are doing a hottest 100 of the decade in june or july i think.. thats a day to put in the diary
 
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Solid

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Most predictable top 100 ever. No doubt Sex on fire was gonna be top spot.

Good mentions:
Bon Iver
The Grates
The Kooks
Sigur Ros

Surprised TV on the Radio missed out completely
 

skeepe

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That was the worst hottest 100 in some time. Then again, I am more of a rock fan so I was never going to like the adult contemporary (KOL)/wierd psychedlic crap (MGMT among others) that seems to rule the airwaves these days. And seriously, Kanye West, Alicia Keys on JJJ? Come on.

Gone are the JJJ heyday of the late ninties/early noughties, when such great Australian rock acts were making the grade on JJJ. These days, with a few exceptions (Gyroscope, Something with Numbers, Birds of Tokyo) rock doesn't get played on JJJ unless it's commercial crap.

What annoys me most about JJJ these days though is that the bands they used to support in the past seem to be ignored whenever they release anything new these days in favour of the new wave of Aussie hip-hop, a prime example being Bodyjar a few years back being completely ignored with their new album when they were rabidly supported by the same station years before. If it's not hot, JJJ drop it like a ton of sh*t.

I mean, look at previous Hottest 100's. Spiderbait's Buy Me a Pony won the bloody thing in the late 90's... that song would never even get a look-in on today's JJJ.

Oh and seriously, the amount of dance music on JJJ these days is utterly ridiculous.

As for the idea of a hottest 100 of the decade, a few years ago I would have been in favour but given the progressively sh*tter nature of each hottest 100, I'm not confident I trust the average JJJ listener.
 

HevyDevy

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That was the worst hottest 100 in some time. Then again, I am more of a rock fan so I was never going to like the adult contemporary (KOL)/wierd psychedlic crap (MGMT among others) that seems to rule the airwaves these days. And seriously, Kanye West, Alicia Keys on JJJ? Come on.

Gone are the JJJ heyday of the late ninties/early noughties, when such great Australian rock acts were making the grade on JJJ. These days, with a few exceptions (Gyroscope, Something with Numbers, Birds of Tokyo) rock doesn't get played on JJJ unless it's commercial crap.

What annoys me most about JJJ these days though is that the bands they used to support in the past seem to be ignored whenever they release anything new these days in favour of the new wave of Aussie hip-hop, a prime example being Bodyjar a few years back being completely ignored with their new album when they were rabidly supported by the same station years before. If it's not hot, JJJ drop it like a ton of sh*t.

I mean, look at previous Hottest 100's. Spiderbait's Buy Me a Pony won the bloody thing in the late 90's... that song would never even get a look-in on today's JJJ.

Oh and seriously, the amount of dance music on JJJ these days is utterly ridiculous.

As for the idea of a hottest 100 of the decade, a few years ago I would have been in favour but given the progressively sh*tter nature of each hottest 100, I'm not confident I trust the average JJJ listener.
True true
 

henrieté

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Triple J has it seems become more 'commercial' in the last few years. Still, I love Hack, the political and social commentary and the chit chat from the announcers. It is still a million times better than Gold Coast tripe where your served crap from The Big Kahuna and The BenchWarmers. And Richard and Sarah make me dry-retch.
 

Alex28

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Here is the top 20 from the Hottest 100 of all time that was done in 1998:

1 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
2 Hunters And Collectors - Throw Your Arms Around Me
3 Pearl Jam - Alive
4 Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye
5 Radiohead - Creep
6 Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven
7 Metallica - One
8 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
9 Metallica - Enter Sandman
10 Pearl Jam - Black
11 U2 - One
12 Marilyn Manson - Beautiful People
13 Radiohead - Paranoid Android
14 Nine Inch Nails - Closer
15 Violent Femmes - Blister In The Sun
16 Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
17 Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name Of
18 Living End - Prisoner Of Society
19 Faith No More - Epic
20 Blink-182 - Dammit

I would suggest that bar Nirvana none of those tracks would make a modern day list completed. You just know that whenever they decide to do the decade list it will be whoever is popular and selling records at the time will kill it. Hottest 100 will never be a true reflection of what is popular ever again which is a great shame...
 

Moffo

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huge call alex

i dont mean to be an arse about it or point the finger but im sick of people bagging out bands the second they become mainstream. its like...ooooo, too many people know about you now, you're sh*t, im off to find another obscure band. its so pathetic. im the first to agree that mainstream radio kills music by overplaying it but ffs, KOL have finally cracked it after putting out solid music for many years. get over yourselves, the wankiness of some music fans is hilarious
 

HevyDevy

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huge call alex

i dont mean to be an arse about it or point the finger but im sick of people bagging out bands the second they become mainstream. its like...ooooo, too many people know about you now, you're sh*t, im off to find another obscure band. its so pathetic. im the first to agree that mainstream radio kills music by overplaying it but ffs, KOL have finally cracked it after putting out solid music for many years. get over yourselves, the wankiness of some music fans is hilarious

I guess it depends on the band. I can't comment on KOL because I haven't heard their old stuff.

Don't mind the latest stuff although I'd never buy something that mainstream, but when it comes on the radio I quite enjoy it.

In general, good on them for being successful but if, as some people say, they have lost their 'spark' then that's a real shame. You know, a bit like Metallica during the 'Load' years.
 

Apey

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Here is the top 20 from the Hottest 100 of all time that was done in 1998:

1 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
2 Hunters And Collectors - Throw Your Arms Around Me
3 Pearl Jam - Alive
4 Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye
5 Radiohead - Creep
6 Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven
7 Metallica - One
8 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
9 Metallica - Enter Sandman
10 Pearl Jam - Black
11 U2 - One
12 Marilyn Manson - Beautiful People
13 Radiohead - Paranoid Android
14 Nine Inch Nails - Closer
15 Violent Femmes - Blister In The Sun
16 Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
17 Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name Of
18 Living End - Prisoner Of Society
19 Faith No More - Epic
20 Blink-182 - Dammit

I would suggest that bar Nirvana none of those tracks would make a modern day list completed. You just know that whenever they decide to do the decade list it will be whoever is popular and selling records at the time will kill it. Hottest 100 will never be a true reflection of what is popular ever again which is a great shame...


that list is pretty awesome, to me anyway :crazy:

pearl jam are gods.
 

CC_Eagle

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huge call alex

i dont mean to be an arse about it or point the finger but im sick of people bagging out bands the second they become mainstream. its like...ooooo, too many people know about you now, you're sh*t, im off to find another obscure band. its so pathetic. im the first to agree that mainstream radio kills music by overplaying it but ffs, KOL have finally cracked it after putting out solid music for many years. get over yourselves, the wankiness of some music fans is hilarious

No.

"Popularity" has zero to do with it.

The fact that the band makes crappy, mediocre music is the problem here. As I said earlier, Radiohead, AC/DC & Nick Cave are just three artists/bands who have released some of their best work recently despite being huge in their relative contexts.

If KOL's new album sounded like what KOL were, no one would have a problem with it or the number of morons liking their music.
 

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