My point was that this thread became a sh*t fight, and it didn't need to.
Agree. Maybe we just have different opinions of where the sh*t fight begins, that's all?
but you fail to defend those who, as Strider said, disagree with those opinions, which in all honesty, are also people's opinions.
That, I can't quite work out, and find it rather confusing.
Point taken, and my stance was explained in response to Strides:
"Sure, discuss why the other opinion is bad, but if we all stick to the topic rather than getting personal, or in replying make sure our words don't say that others shouldn't put their opinions in the first place, then the discussions tends to flow pretty well without people offending each other too much?"
To put in another way, in a discussion forum I just reckon opinions of the type that say or imply other people shouldn't put their differing opinions, or that their differing opinions are annoying etc seem to be where problems start, and sh*t fights begin?
By all means respond to the opinion, and point out
why the opinion might be misguided, ill-informed etc, and supply alternate suggestions... but why do people in either direction need to make it personal in doing that?
There have been plenty of people here opposing, primarily, MIT's thoughts on this, and seemingly, all you can do is defend MIT's right to have an opinion.
I'm really confused. Please explain your stance better, if indeed, I have it wrong.
To be honest I haven't kept count of how many people think what, as that never really bothers me and isn't relevent to the point I'd raised.
I haven't mentioned MITS by name in raising my point about how people conduct their discussions? You seem to be making an assumption there for some reason. I had a problem with what WC wrote - or how she wrote it - and simply took the opportunity to put a general opinion about that....
I do recall saying a few pages ago beofre the sh*tfight that I agreed with the idea of holding future quizzes on bye weekend nights - which might have been a MITS idea? Can't be bothered looking back to check though, as to me threads aren't about taking sides and working out who or how many people agree with you. For me this place is just about expressing your opinion and learning about others' opinions (preferrably with respect).
If to better understand my stance you need me to go back and say where I thought this thread went downhill and specify particular posts by PM then I can... but I'm not sure that actually achieves much? But maybe (with the assumption you made above about "who" I was or wasn't defending defending) you'd already formed a different view to me about the goings on in this thread, and where the fault lies?
Thanks for your interest in the reasons behind my stance though. No dramas explaining it from my end. :thumn.