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True Detective

Joker's Wild

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Terrible final ep

Ray going to see his kid was stupid. As I father I get why he wanted to but wtf did he take his own car for? Hell, he didnt even try to disguise himself either even though he must have known that his kids freakin school would have been one of the obvious places they would stake out for him. His silly sprint out into the open was just as bad seeing as he managed to take out 2 of the 4(?) guys pretty easily by just hiding behind a tree and waiting for them to turn away. A little more patience and he nails the other useless merkins the same way

Frank getting caught by the Mexicans made little sense either. Was he driving his own car too or did the Turks tip them off?

It all felt rushed and contrived tbh. It was building nicely then it was like they ran out of time and just wrote as quick an ending as they could
 

Generalzod

Immortal
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The True Detective Show remind me of watching that great movie staring Robert De-niro and Al Pacino Heat
 

some11

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Exactly, they pretty much combined the scenes where Kilmer goes to see his wife and De Niro takes a detour to kill Waingro.
 

hineyrulz

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Pretty dissapointing ending to be honest, the show built up quite nicely but the ending was just flat IMO.
 

chrisD

Coach
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So the brother was dressed as a bird because "it was Caspere's"... uhh ok? And the seemingly strategic dumping place for the body was really where he just ended up after crazying out and driving Caspere around town. In fact he didn't even mean to murder him, which considering he was prepared to murder Halloway in broad daylight seems rather inconsistent. And what was he doing at Caspere's orgy shack with a shotgun loaded with whatever in the first place?

And Ray's epiphany, "it's that random dude at the movie set she talked to", right up there with the season one green ears moment.

This guy just can't write murder mysteries or detective work for shit. First season he just left shit without answers, this season he just throws out randomness and crazy for answers and I'm not sure which is worse.

Next season should just be action focussed, piss the mystery aspect off. Both seasons were at their best during action scenes.
 

Someone

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So the brother was dressed as a bird because "it was Caspere's"... uhh ok? And the seemingly strategic dumping place for the body was really where he just ended up after crazying out and driving Caspere around town. In fact he didn't even mean to murder him, which considering he was prepared to murder Halloway in broad daylight seems rather inconsistent. And what was he doing at Caspere's orgy shack with a shotgun loaded with whatever in the first place?

And Ray's epiphany, "it's that random dude at the movie set she talked to", right up there with the season one green ears moment.

This guy just can't write murder mysteries or detective work for shit. First season he just left shit without answers, this season he just throws out randomness and crazy for answers and I'm not sure which is worse.

Next season should just be action focussed, piss the mystery aspect off. Both seasons were at their best during action scenes.

so im guessing you wont be tuning in if theres a third season.

im assuming Frank was sold out by the turks? or the diamond people.

As for Ray and Franks 'arcs' ending, the way I see it is they died the arrogant men they were. Both had multiple times through the series where they could have ran and got themselves out and both found excuses to keep themselves in. Frank died because somebody wanted his jacket and ray died because he wanted to see his son one more time. Both accepted death over the alternative.

I don't necessarily think that's bad or lazy writing.

The ending scene itself I liked, Ani handing it over to the reporter. It isn't Ani's story to tell anymore. Only the reporters to relive it.

The main problem I had was the shootout at the house in the hills, how rushed it felt, how underwhelming it was and how strategic and careful they were there and then both ray and frank became the dumbest humans on earth once driving around with millions of dollars in their cars
 

Lockyer4President!

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so im guessing you wont be tuning in if theres a third season.

im assuming Frank was sold out by the turks? or the diamond people.

As for Ray and Franks 'arcs' ending, the way I see it is they died the arrogant men they were. Both had multiple times through the series where they could have ran and got themselves out and both found excuses to keep themselves in. Frank died because somebody wanted his jacket and ray died because he wanted to see his son one more time. Both accepted death over the alternative.

I don't necessarily think that's bad or lazy writing.

The ending scene itself I liked, Ani handing it over to the reporter. It isn't Ani's story to tell anymore. Only the reporters to relive it.

The main problem I had was the shootout at the house in the hills, how rushed it felt, how underwhelming it was and how strategic and careful they were there and then both ray and frank became the dumbest humans on earth once driving around with millions of dollars in their cars

Well yeah, if I had $4M worth of diamonds in my jacket pocket I'd probably hesitate too.

In saying that, put them in your jocks or socks Frank! You're a gangster in LA, how do you not know this!
 

18to87

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Ray going to see his kid was stupid. As I father I get why he wanted to but wtf did he take his own car for? Hell, he didnt even try to disguise himself either even though he must have known that his kids freakin school would have been one of the obvious places they would stake out for him. His silly sprint out into the open was just as bad seeing as he managed to take out 2 of the 4(?) guys pretty easily by just hiding behind a tree and waiting for them to turn away. A little more patience and he nails the other useless merkins the same way

Frank getting caught by the Mexicans made little sense either. Was he driving his own car too or did the Turks tip them off?

I generally enjoyed the season but it is hard to look past these points, especially going back to the school.
 

Joker's Wild

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so im guessing you wont be tuning in if theres a third season.

im assuming Frank was sold out by the turks? or the diamond people.

As for Ray and Franks 'arcs' ending, the way I see it is they died the arrogant men they were. Both had multiple times through the series where they could have ran and got themselves out and both found excuses to keep themselves in. Frank died because somebody wanted his jacket and ray died because he wanted to see his son one more time. Both accepted death over the alternative.

I don't necessarily think that's bad or lazy writing.

The ending scene itself I liked, Ani handing it over to the reporter. It isn't Ani's story to tell anymore. Only the reporters to relive it.

The main problem I had was the shootout at the house in the hills, how rushed it felt, how underwhelming it was and how strategic and careful they were there and then both ray and frank became the dumbest humans on earth once driving around with millions of dollars in their cars

I got the impression the Mexicans were gonna kill him anyway, and the dude wanted the suit before it was ruined with bullet holes and what not. Pretty sure Frank was fighting for his life, not the diamonds
 

Lockyer4President!

First Grade
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Why didn't Ray get his stuff out of the car and call a cab

If they're close enough to put a tracker on his car they're close enough to track him with their own eyes. And since they didn't come out to talk to him while he waited in the street he knew they just wanted him to lead them to Ani.

Also I guess it brought it home how his son and ex-wife were at risk even if he got away scot free.
 

Someone

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I got the impression the Mexicans were gonna kill him anyway, and the dude wanted the suit before it was ruined with bullet holes and what not. Pretty sure Frank was fighting for his life, not the diamonds

I didn't read it that way. Frank was cocky and enquired about a ride back which insulted the Mexicans. They were getting in their cars and leaving.
 

elyod138

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I didn't read it that way. Frank was cocky and enquired about a ride back which insulted the Mexicans. They were getting in their cars and leaving.

They had no intention of letting him live IMO, they left him in the middle of nowhere, that was his death sentence. They even dug a grave for him. Opening his mouth just earned him a quicker death.
 

Someone

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I must have missed the grave. didn't see it.

I did get the impression he was out in the middle of nowhere but that they were just going to leave him.

I just don't understand why they would all disperse to their cars if they were going to kill him?
 

sandshark

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Bit late to the party but just watched the first season.
Really enjoyed it but felt like the last episode was underdone.
I guess I am used to tv series with a big finale.
Will most likely give the second season a go.
 

mackdadday

Juniors
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Did the second season over the last few days after much hesitation about the cast but finally found it glorious. Didn't have the atmosphere of the first season but i thought it was more climatic. Thought Vaughan did a decent job of his role in it. Agreed that it was a bit silly to have Ray go full genius after getting the cash.
 
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