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Tyrone May

Smug Panther

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Tyrone May was convicted of filming a woman without her consent. That’s the key to why it was a serious issue.

He didn’t just distribute a video that was filmed consensually.
Yep it's sexual assault. We have been kissed on the dick with an opportunity to punt a scumbag who provides very little to the side.
 

Kilkenny

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If the presiding Magistrate had of imposed a full time custodial prison sentence on Tyrone May it would have been overturned on appeal because there would be no legal precedent for such as sentence, imposed upon someone based on similar circumstance, with no previous criminal convictions. Serial recidivist domestic violence offenders avoid full time custodial sentences each and every day for offences far worse that what Tyrone May did and that is just a fact. I’m not excusing him by any means but anyone who thinks Tyrone should have gone to jail is being very naive given the lightweight sentences imposed every day in our courts for offenders who are a real threat to the safety of there spouses or former spouses.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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I don’t see how you can make that inference at all. You know nothing about this particular magistrate. You just speculating wildly. The magistrate wouldn’t have needed the first magistrate standing aside to know he was an NRL player anyway, it was discussed at trial.

Also as for your comparison to the Queensland case, they’re quite different. The woman who was fined $600 filmed Staggs with his consent, Tyrone May didn’t have consent. Making it more serious.


The magistrate STOOD HIMSELF aside because he had links (the magistrate) to Penrith Panthers.

Magistrates must declare such links and if needed stand aside.
 
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If the presiding Magistrate had of imposed a full time custodial prison sentence on Tyrone May it would have been overturned on appeal because there would be no legal precedent for such as sentence, imposed upon someone based on similar circumstance, with no previous criminal convictions. Serial recidivist domestic violence offenders avoid full time custodial sentences each and every day for offences far worse that what Tyrone May did and that is just a fact. I’m not excusing him by any means but anyone who thinks Tyrone should have gone to jail is being very naive given the lightweight sentences imposed every day in our courts for offenders who are a real threat to the safety of there spouses or former spouses.


The argument about him gong to jail is kinda splitting hairs anyway. It was a very serious conviction, 300 hours of community service is not to be sneezed at. He was also ordered to undergo psychological intervention.
 
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The magistrate STOOD HIMSELF aside because he had links (the magistrate) to Penrith Panthers.

Magistrates must decalre such links and if needed stand aside.

Yes, but Franklin was talking about the second magistrate, not the one who stood aside. Ie. He was saying that the magistrate that imposed a harsh sentence did so because May is an NRL player.
 

Iamback

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I don’t see how you can make that inference at all. You know nothing about this particular magistrate. You just speculating wildly. The magistrate wouldn’t have needed the first magistrate standing aside to know he was an NRL player anyway, it was discussed at trial.

Also as for your comparison to the Queensland case, they’re quite different. The woman who was fined $600 filmed Staggs with his consent, Tyrone May didn’t have consent. Making it more serious.

Her comments about the Panthers on the prowl charity. To me shows her dislike for the Club or the sport in general
 

Kilkenny

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Yep it's sexual assault. We have been kissed on the dick with an opportunity to punt a scumbag who provides very little to the side.
His worth to the side has nothing to do with it. It is not the issue.

If you feel so strongly against violence against women there are many, many social media platforms where you can support women whose spouses, partners former partners avoid custodial sentences despite numerous convictions, numerous breaches of court orders, breaches or parole. That is the real world. That is reality. Taking a stance against Tyrone May is just bullshit in the overall scheme of things. If you are that passionate about it, jump on board the social media platforms I refer to and do some real good.

Our Magistrates and Judges let down female victims of recidivist serial domestic violence offenders each and every day. They need a voice.
 
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Her comments about the Panthers on the prowl charity. To me shows her dislike for the Club or the sport in general

I thought that comment was odd, but it didn’t show a dislike. Just ignorance.

Point still stands though, you can’t compare this to the $600 fine in Queensland. The circumstances of the two charges are quite different.
 
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Filming a person in a sexual act without their consent is a serious crime, we don’t need to examine the magistrates motives to know that.

He does something similar again and he will be going to jail.
 

DinkyDi

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Murder carries the threat of a life sentence, being involved in the commercial supply of a prohibited drug carries a life sentence, the legislated sentence is rarely ever imposed.

The offence of being in possession of a prohibited drug carries a maximum term of imprisonment up to two years.

The person you refer too May have potentially been facing such a term but in reality I would suggest they received a monetary fine with no conviction recorded. That’s just our system, that’s the way it is.
He did receive did receive a monetary fine, and a conviction was recorded.
 

DinkyDi

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Ice and Sex tapes very different offences Like comparing Apples and Oranges.

It was a magistrate the oversaw the May case not a judge. A magistrate has a lower standing than a judge. Like NSW cup player to NRL player.

Magistrate may not have a law degree.
Magistrates actually do have law degrees. Clearly I was using that as an example that May, could have been given a custodial penalty, as one option could be that, just like that bloke I know.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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Comparing cases is fraught with danger.

Especially if it is for different offences.

Generally one looks at precident for what has gone on before for an outcome.
 

DinkyDi

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Comparing cases is fraught with danger.

Especially if it is for different offences.

Generally one looks at precident for what has gone on before for an outcome.
Again, I was highlighting the fact that both can be punished by incarceration. That is all.
 
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Kilkenny

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It’s all well and good being hysterical around against the supposed violence against women being perpetrated by Tyrone May when there are so many female victims being let down by the courts across our country each and day, some of whom end up being murdered by husbands, partners, former husbands, former partners who have consistently breached orders, parole whatever yet been free to commit there heinous acts.

I’ve never condoned what Tyrone May pleaded guilty too and was convicted off but seriously the hypocrisy is breathtaking and those pursuing a crusade over it have many avenues to provide support victims of on going serious domestic violence.

If Tyrone gets a fair hearing and gets sacked by our board, so be it, but this whole violence again women is a far bigger issue in society than is being predicated by some on here whose motives are so disingenuous to the real issue but it makes some feel good I guess.
 

murraymob

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To me it seems so easy and convienant to claims someone has a 'chip on their shoulder and a knuckle dragger' without knowing the effect of continual abuse been thrown at you over a long period of time.

It must be exhausting.

I reckon if that happened to me I would have a 'chip on my shoulder' too.


and before anyone starts......yes I know it was self inflicted.....


So very easy to judge when you've not walked a mile in his shoes.
If someone pays me 250k a year I am cautious not to blow it .its not all that hard
 

Aliceinwonderland

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If someone pays me 250k a year I am cautious not to blow it .its not all that hard


As I said earlier it's easy to blame and be judgemental isn't it.

I explained a few days ago my personal experience with continual intrusion. It was minor.

I also didn't have folks sending me abusive texts on my social media, yelling stuff from cars, writing stuff about me. Continually for 3 years.

I believe it wore him down.

(again I will repeat that it's self inflicted was a horrible crime)

I don't know whether we will understand the level of abuse he's had. As we have not walked a mile in his shoes.

I refuse to judge on that basis because I honestly don't know how I'd react under that continual pressure.
 
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