Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

[Misanthrope]

I just think that the two kids have done nothing wrong and the fathers reaction is ridiculous, and not the reaction I would associate with a good parent. I'm sure as f**k not going to be that kind of father. Respect goes both ways.

At the end of the day, neither of us know the full story. I fully intend (if I ever have children) to treat them with respect and to establish boundaries with them, so my reaction is shaped by the imaging how I would react if I had done all of these things and still walked in on such a display.

Yours, in the same vein, has obviously been shaped by your own experiences.

Without either of us knowing the relationship the parties involved, it's all just projecting based on our own pasts and own imagined futures.

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I do think, though, that parenting has become entirely too airy-fairy in many respects. It's not surprise that the current generation has higher rates of teen pregnancy, drug use, binge drinking etc when they're arguably the first generation to be raised in a society where parents and teachers are hobbled in their ability to discipline poor behaviour.

It's ten times worse here in China where every kid is their parents' 'Little Emperor' and can do no wrong.

 

[Twizzle]

I agree with Baz, she is 16 so its her choice

 

[Misanthrope]

I agree with Baz, she is 16 so its her choice

I don't think anybody's debating it's her right to choose who she sleeps with. I'm just of the opinion that, unless she's paying rent, it's not her right to decide who is in her father's house.

I still ask permission if I'm going to bring somebody - friend or f**k toy - to my parent's house.

 

[afinalsin666]

So if them banging isn't the problem, it must just be that he is in the house then. So by your arguments, the old man could belt him if they were just chilling in the lounge room?

 

[Didgi]

So because she doesn't have the right to say who is in the house he can bash the kid?

Glad my parents didn't take that attitude to anyone I brought over, I wouldn't have too many friends.

 

[Misanthrope]

So if them banging isn't the problem, it must just be that he is in the house then. So by your arguments, the old man could belt him if they were just chilling in the lounge room?

If you believe doing something 99% of fathers would disapprove of to something only a Seventh Day Adventist would disapprove to be at all similar, that's an entirely different conversation.

Bringing somebody uninvited into your parents' house is rude. Bringing them in and doing something you know they'd be unhappy with - whether it's f**king, doing drugs, or shitting on the carpet is cause for an angry reaction in my book.

 

[Misanthrope]

So because she doesn't have the right to say who is in the house he can bash the kid?

Glad my parents didn't take that attitude to anyone I brought over, I wouldn't have too many friends.

Not what I said at all.

 

[Misanthrope]

Here's a new one: Does using hateful language with a negative connotation towards a minority (be it racial or sexual orientation) count as being homophobic or racist when you're using it to attack somebody not of said group?

For example, if I call a person a twinkie or a fairy, is that homophobic since I am implying they are somehow 'less' by being this?

 

[afinalsin666]

I am a believer in authorial intent, so no, it isn't. I call my actually gay brother a LollyPop all the time, but I ain't a homophobe. f**k, he uses the words more than I do, he don't give a f**k, and he definitely isn't a homophobe. I occasionally say gentleman, but I don't hate black guys. It's a word drilled into me by pop culture, so I don't give a f**k.

Edit: just reread it. If you mean to verbally hurt or insult someone by calling them a n****r, then yeah, it's racist. But calling someone a LollyPop isn't, because growing up LollyPop is just an insult that you used before you knew what it means, then you learned but still use it to mean what it did before. If that makes sense :lol:

 

[Misanthrope]

But if your intent is to offend the person by calling them a androtrop?

 

[Twizzle]

ask Brian Taylor, he's out of a job for calling Harry Taylor a twinkie

 

[Misanthrope]

:lol: I got suspended in primary school for calling a male classmate a Lezzo Lord. If anything, it was a compliment.

 

[Dragon2010]

Someone I know in high-school got suspended for telling one of the hot teachers she had a nice ass.

 

[afinalsin666]

Did she?

I got suspended more times than I can count. Sent to a boarding school, that didn't help. I was a massive prick.

 

[Misanthrope]

Someone I know in high-school got suspended for telling one of the hot teachers she had a nice ass.

Pretty fair of you ask me. Sexual harassment.

Was it at least an ass worth missing school over?

 

[Dani]

One of my female teachers had really hairy armpits.

I missed out...

 

[Misanthrope]

One of my female teachers had really hairy armpits.

I missed out...

How so? Did everybody else hit that?

 

[Dragon2010]

Did she?

I got suspended more times than I can count. Sent to a boarding school, that didn't help. I was a massive prick.

Um, yeah she did. Insanely hot ass. Every student and male teacher eyed her off.

Pretty fair of you ask me. Sexual harassment.

Was it at least an ass worth missing school over?

Yep. 100%.

One of my female teachers had really hairy armpits.

I missed out...

One of the teachers in my primary school used to be so hairy we thought he was a gorilla. I mean, the amount of hair he has was insane.

 

[Bazal]

I don't think calling a straight man a twinkie is homophobic. But I also don't think it's acceptable because it's certainly a negative attitude towards homosexuality.

That said, all words are just that. The intent is key. Calling a mate a twinkie or a Mediterranean_Descendant bastard (word filter alert) in jest is perfectly fine. I do think sometimes the reactions to things that are said are a bit over the top. That AFL dude is a perfect example. He's out of a job for saying a bloke looked like a twinkie. Ok, fine, bad choice of words. But Andrew Strauss says of Kevin Pietersen "the guys an absolute merkin" on live TV. And not being AFL, it actually had an international broadcast. Yet barely anyone said boo about Strauss....

 

[Dani]

How so? Did everybody else hit that?

;-)