Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

[Misanthrope]

The father's reaction plus the fact they were sneaking around lead me to believe that he'd expressly forbidden such behaviour before. If that were the case, it's completely disrespectful. I'd expect no less if I were a guest in somebody's home and I wilfully violated the conditions they'd set out by diddling their daughter.

I would be surprised if any of you would be so nonchalant about somebody f**king your daughter, either way. Sixteen is still a child in almost all legal aspects of the word.

 

[Johns Magic]

The father's reaction plus the fact they were sneaking around lead me to believe that he'd expressly forbidden such behaviour before. If that were the case, it's completely disrespectful. I'd expect no less if I were a guest in somebody's home and I wilfully violated the conditions they'd set out by diddling their daughter.

Of course they were sneaking around, would you really advertise to any girl's parents that you were having sex with her?

You've made an assumption that the father had expressly forbid it. Even if he did, belting him would still not be on though.

I would be surprised if any of you would be so nonchalant about somebody f**king your daughter, either way. Sixteen is still a child in almost all legal aspects of the word.

There is a middle ground between being nonchalant and beating a 16 year old up. If it is all consensual can you really blame the kid either? The onus is on your daughter not to be givivng it up at that age, not the 16 year old guy to say no.

I know enough guys that were having sex at that age to know it's not all as depraved as you obviously think. ..boys and girls are gonna like each other at that age.

 

[Bazal]

How about treating them like adults instead of acting like a child yourself? I just can't fathom any way it's acceptable for a grown man to thump a kid in this situation

 

[Misanthrope]

I haven't said at any point it is depraved or that I think it is. I've said it's disrespectful. Time was, you met a boy before they started touching your teenage daughter up

 

[Bazal]

I haven't said at any point it is depraved or that I think it is. I've said it's disrespectful. Time was, you met a boy before they started touching your daughter up

The article never says they hadn't met, though. Does it? And tbh, it seems just as likely the father is the reason they were sneaking around given his reaction

 

[Misanthrope]

How about treating them like adults instead of acting like a child yourself? I just can't fathom any way it's acceptable for a grown man to thump a kid in this situation

And if he'd already tried that? The article doesn't say one way or the other.

 

[Bazal]

Then too bad. They are of legal age and consenting. But honestly, I don't think it's unreasonable to read into the report that he had in fact not taken the adult approach.

 

[Dragon2010]

Boys thoughts: "Don't care, had sex".

 

[Misanthrope]

If anything, he should be grateful. You're not a man until you've taken a beating.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

im still yet to be properly filled in by somone

plenty of footy related headwounds, concussions, broken schnozes etc as well as a crack in my skull but none have been fist related

 

[Misanthrope]

im still yet to be properly filled in by somone

plenty of footy related headwounds, concussions, broken schnozes etc as well as a crack in my skull but none have been fist related

I've not really taken a beating, but I've been in a few scuffles and come out of them with some war wounds. That's close enough.

 

[Dani]

I'm a man!

 

[Rhino_NQ]

i am a gigantic human being that has a really good temper is a well behaved drunk so fighting outside of when i used to compete is a rarity for me.

 

[Bazal]

Now that I'm on a computer, I'm genuinely shocked anyone feels it's ok for a grown man to attack a kid who is seemingly in a consensual, legal relationship with his daughter. Firstly, it's his daughters decision, not his. If she wants to act like an adult, then he should treat her like one. Christ, rebellious teenagers are more likely to do something if it actually feels rebellious. He's also no doubt created an issue in his own relationship with his daughter, regardless of the criminal side of it. It just reminds me of the way my own father reacted all too often.

Why should it be acceptable for him to act like a child and attack the kid? It simply isn't and it doesn't come off as something any good father would do. I reckon a good father would take the approach that the kids are acting like adults, so treat them like adults and trust them to be safe. Talk to your f**king kids. Forbidding and punishing does very little. Why should the kids respect him if he clearly doesn't respect them?

 

[Rhino_NQ]

also depends if the teen in question had a bit to say to the father to set him off being a teenager and all.

 

[Dani]

I had a fwb relationship that was on and off for close to 18 months. My parents knew. Dad even shared scotch with him a few times.

Yes I was a decade older than the girl in the story, and I also think my parents are hippies now.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

i actually had to think a bit there to figure out what fwb stands for

 

[Misanthrope]

Now that I'm on a computer, I'm genuinely shocked anyone feels it's ok for a grown man to attack a kid who is seemingly in a consensual, legal relationship with his daughter. Firstly, it's his daughters decision, not his. If she wants to act like an adult, then he should treat her like one. Christ, rebellious teenagers are more likely to do something if it actually feels rebellious. He's also no doubt created an issue in his own relationship with his daughter, regardless of the criminal side of it. It just reminds me of the way my own father reacted all too often.

Why should it be acceptable for him to act like a child and attack the kid? It simply isn't and it doesn't come off as something any good father would do. I reckon a good father would take the approach that the kids are acting like adults, so treat them like adults and trust them to be safe. Talk to your f**king kids. Forbidding and punishing does very little. Why should the kids respect him if he clearly doesn't respect them?

You seem really eager to place the blame squarely at the father's feet despite the article not indicating one way or the other as to their previous interactions. Given you've said it reminds you of your own father, though, a little projection is not surprising.

I do find your wording interesting. You refer to them as adults and insist they be treated as such, but you're down on the guy for 'attacking the kid'. If you're adult enough to be sexually active, surely you're adult enough to conduct yourself as an adult would. If you're aware the father has an issue with you and his daughter, the adult thing to do would be not to do it in his house.

Maybe I'm biased towards the father because I was raised to be respectful to both my parents and the parents of others, but you're demonising the guy based on him losing his temper in a situation where *many* fathers would be upset. Maybe he shouldn't have belted the kid, but I know many fathers who would have dragged him naked out of their house and been none too gentle about it if they'd found him strutting naked around the house like he owned it.

 

[umina panther]

Me at 17 didn't give a f**k what the dad thought and I'd be the same now at 28

 

[Bazal]

I'm not demonising him at all. I just don't think it's an acceptable thing to have done, nor should anyone try and insinuate that it is. Physically, the 16 year old is very much a kid compared to a 49 year old man. You seem really eager to place the father squarely in the right and demonise the 16 year old involved, so I would say that yes there is some bias there. And there may be from my perspective too. But I don't think it's unfair to assume that the father has probably not earned his daughters respect judging by the way he acted here, and judging by her actions in sneaking around with her boyfriend.

I just think that the two kids have done nothing wrong and the fathers reaction is ridiculous, and not the reaction I would associate with a good parent. I'm sure as f**k not going to be that kind of father. Respect goes both ways.