Useless fu*ks

[This Year?]

I am very confident in the year ahead, I am feeling Mary will get the boy's to the GF next year on the back of some great signings

i lol'd

 

[WoyD4LWoy]

Bullshit, Nightingale let a try in by running off his wing in defence, something both winger have been doing all year, that's coached, badly coached.

I agree 100%

 

[Saintsified]

St George has let this happen and now they're happy.

Happy Dragon is our mascot for a reason.

 

[Kiwi Dragon supporter]

Generally the team has lacked cohesion and sharpness the whole season. There is a decided lack of speed in the backs. I have a background in sprinting and coaching and would venture to say that Dufty would be the only one that would break 11 seconds for the 100 meters. Oddly enough the player with the most potential to increase his speed is Tariq Sims, his leg cadence, gait and power are in tune with a sprinters playbook and he is powerfully built. Another one is Nene Mcdonald who with proper sprint training could become very fast. Unfortunately when it comes to footy his skill set is below par.. The way to train for speed is anaerobic training and lots of.,other methods such as downhill sprinting, too many to mention. Talking of speed, a comparison with Usain Bolt, in a 100 meter race, he would finish 20 meters in front of the fastest St George player. There was a guy on this forum who called himself Dino. In his postings he would call for speed and more speed but got decried for it. He was spot on.

 

[Willow]

What Illawarra connection are you talking about I am curious to know as the Illawarra mafai crap has been dished up numerous times and imo is a total load of bullshit.

Congratulations. Not too many people can take a simple word like 'connection' and turn it into a sinister plot of biblical proportions. In your efforts to find offence, you have managed to completely misread my post.

Strange that you immediately thought there was a mafia suggestion to be had. It is paranoia or did I inadvertently touch a nerve?

 

[St Georgio]

lol go support the blue bags you pillock.

Pillock keyboard warrior, say it to my fist!

 

[Qdf]

That's why I'm very happy Souths let him go. Credit where it's due though and he is a good tackler for sure but he doesn't show enough urgency with his passes and he doesn't run. If you guys had Lichaa on your side you guys win imho.

The point is macca can run the ball.He showed on a couple of occasions through out the season.The problem is McGregor dosen't want him to run the ball. Becoming a 80min player this season is a big feather in his cap.I for one think he has a great future at this club. It's McGregor that is the fly in the ointment...

 

[Qdf]

Can anyone tell me what Hornby and Dean Young do at the club ?

Yes . They are on the coaching staff..

 

[True_Believer]

I've seen McInnes run and kick in general play in the past. I'm sure his latest style of just passing and tackling is under instructions from the coah. Get rid of our coaching staff and put Robson on the bench in the Hooker rotation; problem solved.

Actually, McIness himself has said that Mary has told him to run more and he admitted he doesn't do it enough. I'd suggest it's a confidence thing and potentially an issue with reading the play.

 

[PuffGasnier]

Can anyone tell me what Hornby and Dean Young do at the club ?

Ben Hornby was signed on as the Under 20s head coach, and the firsts' edge defence coach, so he's perhaps responsible for how McDonald and Nightingale defend when it comes down to two-on-twos etc.

Dean Young was brought in to the club as the forwards coach - clearly something working in that department.

Ian Millward, although he is mainly faced with recruitment at the moment, was brought in alongside them as the skills coach. That leaves Mary as the coach for the backs, and potentially the halves as well.

 

[Qdf]

Ben Hornby was signed on as the Under 20s head coach, and the firsts' edge defence coach, so he's perhaps responsible for how McDonald and Nightingale defend when it comes down to two-on-twos etc.

Dean Young was brought in to the club as the forwards coach - clearly something working in that department.

Ian Millward, although he is mainly faced with recruitment at the moment, was brought in alongside them as the skills coach. That leaves Mary as the coach for the backs, and potentially the halves as well.

Well we know how Mary's halves & backline went.. pathetic.

 

[Willow]

Willow, at the end of the day those of us who were St George supporters have only the St George administrators to blame for the failure to set and maintain standards and essential terms of the JV.
We have seen better days and our perspective is somewhat different from our JV partners.

Their primary goal is to see NRL footy played at the Gong. Ours is to win premierships.

2 very different goals.

Yep, and that was pretty much the point I was making. And I won't argue against your view regarding the current administration, they certainly have a lot to answer for.

When you see a Club like St George, and the undeniable history of acheivement, you will also see generations of fans who share the pride. It is a heritage that a number of sporting fan bases will appreciate, but there are some sporting fan bases that have trouble understanding it. I don't blame our JV partners for being in the latter group. The old Steelers Club didn't enoy the same success and some years were happy to just compete. Again, that's not having a shot at anyone, it's about how success breeds success.

Norm Provan once spoke about the "habit of winning', Sticks knew all about how success breeds success. The opposite to this is the 'habit of losing', and I'm afraid this is where we are at right now. Did we inherit this from our South Coast cousins? I suspect it isn't the only reason for our dip in fortunes.

The rot has been growing exponentially for about 20 years. It fully revealed it's ugly head about 10 years ago. In 2007, we finished 13th and only one loss away from the wooden spoon. And what did the Club Chairman say? In the LC journal he stated that we were only 2 wins away from making the top eight. And it came from a St George official! There was quite a fuss made about it at the time, fans were not happy. In all the years I have been supporting this great club, I had never seen such a pathetic response and for a while it seemed that sections of the Club were also unhappy with this lowering of expectations.

There was a time when anything less than a premiership was seen as not good enough. OK, we can't win every year, so we lowered our sights to anything less than a top four finish not being good enough. And now we have a coach telling us that finishing eighth was a successful season. And he is underpinned by a Club full of mates who have made a multitude of poor decisions over the last 20 years.

 

[coast_dragons]

Congratulations. Not too many people can take a simple word like 'connection' and turn it into a sinister plot of biblical proportions. In your efforts to find offence, you have managed to completely misread my post.

Strange that you immediately thought there was a mafia suggestion to be had. It is paranoia or did I inadvertently touch a nerve?

I shouldn't have bothered reading your post in the first place my apologies.

 

[Qdf]

Yep, and that was pretty much the point I was making. And I won't argue against your view regarding the current administration, they certainly have a lot to answer for.

When you see a Club like St George, and the undeniable history of acheivement, you will also see generations of fans who share the pride. It is a heritage that a number of sporting fan bases will appreciate, but there are some sporting fan bases that have trouble understanding it. I don't blame our JV partners for being in the latter group. The old Steelers Club didn't enoy the same success and some years were happy to just compete. Again, that's not having a shot at anyone, it's about how success breeds success.

Norm Provan once spoke about the "habit of winning', Sticks knew all about how success breeds success. The opposite to this is the 'habit of losing', and I'm afraid this is where we are at right now. Did we inherit this from our South Coast cousins? I suspect it isn't the only reason for our dip in fortunes.

The rot has been growing exponentially for about 20 years. It fully revealed it's ugly head about 10 years ago. In 2007, we finished 13th and only one loss away from the wooden spoon. And what did the Club Chairman say? In the LC journal he stated that we were only 2 wins away from making the top eight. And it came from a St George official! There was quite a fuss made about it at the time, fans were not happy. In all the years I have been supporting this great club, I had never seen such a pathetic response and for a while it seemed that sections of the Club were also unhappy with this lowering of expectations.

There was a time when anything less than a premiership was seen as not good enough. OK, we can't win every year, so we lowered our sights to anything less than a top four finish not being good enough. And now we have a coach telling us that finishing eighth was a successful season. And he is underpinned by a Club full of mates who have made a multitude of poor decisions over the last 20 years.

What a magnificent response..

 

[ebbedfred]

When you see a Club like St George, and the undeniable history of acheivement, you will also see generations of fans who share the pride. It is a heritage that a number of sporting fan bases will appreciate, but there are some sporting fan bases that have trouble understanding it. I don't blame our JV partners for being in the latter group. The old Steelers Club didn't enoy the same success and some years were happy to just compete. Again, that's not having a shot at anyone, it's about how success breeds success.

Good post, enjoyable read and I don't disagree with it. However, the success that St George had, the incredible and undeniable history was forged over time. The Steelers never had the same time frame to succeed, not saying they would have, just saying we will never know. St George for all it's great history, won the same amount of competitions in their first 20 years that the Steelers did (0), and the same amount of Wooden Spoons (3), it took a few decades for them to become the force they were and start to build the heritage. I'm not sure what the pride was like amongst the fans in 1940, I was not around and those who were would probably struggle to remember. Most who grew up supporting St George already had a proud history to learn about, and probably get told of the amazing team through the most dominant decade in sports history from their fathers, or were lucky enough to witness it and tell their kids about it.

The steelers are gone, I supported them growing up but they are gone, and I don't want to have them back, it does not mean though that I am happy for my team (who is now St George Illawarra) to simply compete and make up the numbers, I HATE losing, I have never liked it, and I don't accept that making the semis every few years is acceptable.. I don't really care if "St George" supporters don't respect anything about the Steelers, but to blame all the current problems on a club that has not stood alone for about 20 years is laughable and probably just a convenient scape goat. Please note Willow that comment is NOT aimed at you at all, I always enjoy your posts and pride you have for St George, but aimed at others who want to blame everything bad on the steelers, and label anything positive as St George, the current problems are the responsibility of the board over the last 6 years, no matter their history or where they came from, they should all be held accountable for the current state of the club, which is in a poor state based on the very least, on field results. If they think what we have done in 6 years is acceptable, they should be removed from any position of decision making.

 

[Qdf]

Good post, enjoyable read and I don't disagree with it. However, the success that St George had, the incredible and undeniable history was forged over time. The Steelers never had the same time frame to succeed, not saying they would have, just saying we will never know. St George for all it's great history, won the same amount of competitions in their first 20 years that the Steelers did (0), and the same amount of Wooden Spoons (3), it took a few decades for them to become the force they were and start to build the heritage. I'm not sure what the pride was like amongst the fans in 1940, I was not around and those who were would probably struggle to remember. Most who grew up supporting St George already had a proud history to learn about, and probably get told of the amazing team through the most dominant decade in sports history from their fathers, or were lucky enough to witness it and tell their kids about it.

The steelers are gone, I supported them growing up but they are gone, and I don't want to have them back, it does not mean though that I am happy for my team (who is now St George Illawarra) to simply compete and make up the numbers, I HATE losing, I have never liked it, and I don't accept that making the semis every few years is acceptable.. I don't really care if "St George" supporters don't respect anything about the Steelers, but to blame all the current problems on a club that has not stood alone for about 20 years is laughable and probably just a convenient scape goat. Please note Willow that comment is NOT aimed at you at all, I always enjoy your posts and pride you have for St George, but aimed at others who want to blame everything bad on the steelers, and label anything positive as St George, the current problems are the responsibility of the board over the last 6 years, no matter their history or where they came from, they should all be held accountable for the current state of the club, which is in a poor state based on the very least, on field results. If they think what we have done in 6 years is acceptable, they should be removed from any position of decision making.

You correct,
The Board is responsible for the running of the Club
That is managing the daily affairs,through the duely appointed CEO.If the CEO is not performing, they must be moved on.
Same goes for the Football department.
So in the the big scheme of things the Board are responsible...If the Board dosen' perform its time for a new Board.Its just that simple.

 

[SaintPauli]

We are all disappointed.

The team was slow to start but did get into the groove second half.

It can be a fickle game. If Josh Dugan had been able to hold rather than roll on that crucial under the post no try when held up by Hoppa then I think we would have gone on and won it.

Kurt Mann was not effective today. His tackling was strong but McCrone runs straighter and passes a little better timed.

Matt Dufty went ok. Nice backup for try. Safe under high ball.

Tim Lafai actually played well. Everyone on his back for trying that miracle offload when the game only had a few minutes left and we had to do something a bit freakish to get down field with a few attacks still available in the 6 count. He tackled one on one effectively, picked the correct inside alley for Dufty last pass and timed Nightie's pass for his try nicely.

The Dogs are in form and got us in the end.

Youre comments are spot on. We'll said rasaint