Vs Panthers Rd 10

[jaseg]

Lolohea just NOT a fullback. Where's dickhead jaseg?

I was watching the game. Where have you been? In hiding after getting found out blatantly lying? Or did you have to catch up on some homework? Carry on with this personal rubbish if you like... just understand nobody gives a crap - and you make yourself appear even more juvenile that you already do. I debate the footy, based on the footy.

As for Tui; still played all his best NRL footy at fullback. I don't rate players on 1 game (and he actually had a pretty decent one, all up) - or seemingly in your case, 1 play. Tui's made plenty of try savers from fullback in past games.


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On topic;
SJ needs to get his head checked. That was a Carige-like performance at times. I'd also suggest there might be a bit of fault in coaching - he should have been told not to bomb or high kick in those positions. But that dummy and run from DH... holy balls. How stupid do you have to be?

 

[Philip_Smith007]

We didn't play great, but several shit ref calls really f**ked us in this one.

Sorry our stupid offloads cost us and Johnson average kicking game.

 

[ozbash]

Discipline was appalling. Our team is full of deluded fools. Blokes that just will not get into a grind. No matter what, they just won't stay in a game.

Lets go through it...

1) SJ gives us a try by not taking a tackle and going in goal. He tries the most impossible offload in goal... try. Ridiculous. Second half, he tries to kick in goal, and it goes sideways across field straight to Cartwright with absolutely no hope of ever reaching the in goal. Then he gets space on the last tackle, so he runs, and does well, but instead of putting in goal, he cuts back into an ambush and throws a poor offload.
2) Ben Matulino - that offload, and then he follows it up with a stupid penalty.
3) James Gavet - shouldn't see first grade again this year. Average at best. Throws an appalling offload with no support, right when Issac Luke has created a lot of space. All he has to do is take the tackle and we are on a big roll. Then a set or two later Penrith are attacking the line and he rushes out of the line, grabs no one and is really lucky they don't step into the space. I can't believe they didn't.
4) Thomas Leuluai - good battler for a defender. Tries hard there. But he can't play 6. Took no pressure off Johnson. No kicking game. The pass to Ryan Hoffman was perhaps the worst pass of any player all season. Can't believe they didn't put Tui into 6, and leave Fus at 1. WTF has Leuluai done to deserve the 6 jersey?
5) Charlie Gubb - is no one in this blokes ear? Or is he too thick to either take it on board, or figure it out himself. I counted four tackles that he could potentially be involved with, in a row, where Penrith stepped him as he went for those stupid grass cutters. He's killing us Anyone with footwork is going to destroy him
6) Solomone Kata - first 70 minutes was awesome. Last 10 disgraceful. The offload to no one with tackles in hand attacking their line, feeble. He then casually jogged back as they sprinted up field on a line break. Then he comes out of the line when there's no need to creating space for Fisher-Harris to get DWZ in the corner with ease. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

I genuinely feel for the likes of Tevaga, even Thompson (yes I know he's in the bad books). Hoff played really well too. But this team is full of dead heads. Teams just get into a grind and wait for us to implode. And sure enough, we do. We lack basic skills, fitness, and patience. Yes the coach is poor, but fair dinkum, these guys shoot themselves in the foot. Penrith played it well into the wind. Short passing, low kicking, work hard in the tackle to earn penalties. Our blokes, reckless offloads, high kicks, panic plays. There's the ball game.

I can't believe Fus wasn't at fullback. Bloke barely got any ball. And we moved him to the wing to compensate for Leuluai coming back? Now, yes Leuluai hit like a freight train but his ball playing is horrible. Absolutely horrible. Always has been always will be. Has no kicking game. The word is Lolohea is the #6 in waiting. So why on earth would you not play him there? Before RTS went down, Lolohea was being promised the #6 jersey. And he took it well in the 20 minutes he got there. Then Fus goes to fullback when Lolohea goes down and plays exceptionally well there. Be brave Cappy, there's no crime in sitting Leuluai in reserve grade. His skill set just isn't where it needs to be.

Yep.. bang on..

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Discipline was appalling. Our team is full of deluded fools. Blokes that just will not get into a grind. No matter what, they just won't stay in a game.

Lets go through it...

1) SJ gives us a try by not taking a tackle and going in goal. He tries the most impossible offload in goal... try. Ridiculous. Second half, he tries to kick in goal, and it goes sideways across field straight to Cartwright with absolutely no hope of ever reaching the in goal. Then he gets space on the last tackle, so he runs, and does well, but instead of putting in goal, he cuts back into an ambush and throws a poor offload.
2) Ben Matulino - that offload, and then he follows it up with a stupid penalty.
3) James Gavet - shouldn't see first grade again this year. Average at best. Throws an appalling offload with no support, right when Issac Luke has created a lot of space. All he has to do is take the tackle and we are on a big roll. Then a set or two later Penrith are attacking the line and he rushes out of the line, grabs no one and is really lucky they don't step into the space. I can't believe they didn't.
4) Thomas Leuluai - good battler for a defender. Tries hard there. But he can't play 6. Took no pressure off Johnson. No kicking game. The pass to Ryan Hoffman was perhaps the worst pass of any player all season. Can't believe they didn't put Tui into 6, and leave Fus at 1. WTF has Leuluai done to deserve the 6 jersey?
5) Charlie Gubb - is no one in this blokes ear? Or is he too thick to either take it on board, or figure it out himself. I counted four tackles that he could potentially be involved with, in a row, where Penrith stepped him as he went for those stupid grass cutters. He's killing us Anyone with footwork is going to destroy him
6) Solomone Kata - first 70 minutes was awesome. Last 10 disgraceful. The offload to no one with tackles in hand attacking their line, feeble. He then casually jogged back as they sprinted up field on a line break. Then he comes out of the line when there's no need to creating space for Fisher-Harris to get DWZ in the corner with ease. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

I genuinely feel for the likes of Tevaga, even Thompson (yes I know he's in the bad books). Hoff played really well too. But this team is full of dead heads. Teams just get into a grind and wait for us to implode. And sure enough, we do. We lack basic skills, fitness, and patience. Yes the coach is poor, but fair dinkum, these guys shoot themselves in the foot. Penrith played it well into the wind. Short passing, low kicking, work hard in the tackle to earn penalties. Our blokes, reckless offloads, high kicks, panic plays. There's the ball game.

I can't believe Fus wasn't at fullback. Bloke barely got any ball. And we moved him to the wing to compensate for Leuluai coming back? Now, yes Leuluai hit like a freight train but his ball playing is horrible. Absolutely horrible. Always has been always will be. Has no kicking game. The word is Lolohea is the #6 in waiting. So why on earth would you not play him there? Before RTS went down, Lolohea was being promised the #6 jersey. And he took it well in the 20 minutes he got there. Then Fus goes to fullback when Lolohea goes down and plays exceptionally well there. Be brave Cappy, there's no crime in sitting Leuluai in reserve grade. His skill set just isn't where it needs to be.

Add me to the list of minds you have read.
Sum it up perfectly.

Much like politics, is it easy to see what to do from the outside, but once you are in is it hard to implement.

What would Ted do?

 

[Philip_Smith007]

I suspect the 7 tackle rule has made strong breezes much less of an advantage these days. That would've been worth 15 points prior to that rule. Not so much these days.

18 + 13 = 31 points. We win!!!!
Bugger I was on the money!

 

[Rich102]

Good post Iafeta.

 

[vvvrulz]

4) Thomas Leuluai - good battler for a defender. Tries hard there. But he can't play 6. Took no pressure off Johnson. No kicking game. The pass to Ryan Hoffman was perhaps the worst pass of any player all season. Can't believe they didn't put Tui into 6, and leave Fus at 1. WTF has Leuluai done to deserve the 6 jersey?

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I can't believe Fus wasn't at fullback. Bloke barely got any ball. And we moved him to the wing to compensate for Leuluai coming back? Now, yes Leuluai hit like a freight train but his ball playing is horrible. Absolutely horrible. Always has been always will be. Has no kicking game. The word is Lolohea is the #6 in waiting. So why on earth would you not play him there? Before RTS went down, Lolohea was being promised the #6 jersey. And he took it well in the 20 minutes he got there. Then Fus goes to fullback when Lolohea goes down and plays exceptionally well there. Be brave Cappy, there's no crime in sitting Leuluai in reserve grade. His skill set just isn't where it needs to be.

Spot on.

This is one of my real pet hates for years now, simply cannot understand how Leuluai is our first choice #6, over Robson, Townsend or Lolohea. The latter three are flawed but they are genuine halves. Leuluai might have looked like Thurston at ESL level, but he is NOT an NRL grade half. He's barely even an NRL grade player period.

He is, at best, a good honest toiler to be used as a utility if first line players go down. Right now he is number three in the ranks in both five-eighth and hooker, and forcing our best fullback trapped on the wing.

F*cking sick of it.

Going to cut Johnson some slack though, thought his energy and intent was right up there. He got destroyed by not playing according to the breeze and a couple of stupid desperate offloads, but he today he did enough good to cancel off his brain explosions. He's trying.

Give me this over his under-a-rock performances any day.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

I was watching the game. Where have you been? In hiding after getting found out blatantly lying? Or did you have to catch up on some homework? Carry on with this personal rubbish if you like... just understand nobody gives a crap - and you make yourself appear even more juvenile that you already do. I debate the footy, based on the footy.

As for Tui; still played all his best NRL footy at fullback. I don't rate players on 1 game (and he actually had a pretty decent one, all up) - or seemingly in your case, 1 play. Tui's made plenty of try savers from fullback in past

What am I lying about? You and your cut and paste responses on things you know nothing about CRACKS me up.

Fusitua should be at the back. Lolohea only played good in the game against the Bulldogs cos he was on fire since he got to play where HE LIKES at 6, after he got in the zone, he could've played anywhere in the backs THAT day. However to get him consistently firing he needs to play 6 by doing that he frees up positions for people that actually play there like Fusitua. 1. Fusitua 2. Wright and 5. Manu I'd go with now as outside backs cos they're outside backs not halves.

Tui is just getting f**ked up out there with injuries. Fusitua is more suited as he showed last week but then we had to go with your idea of Tui at the back and he doesn't offer what Fusitua brings and THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

 

[vvvrulz]

Still don't understand McFaddens bench ploy. Allwood played all of 5 minutes. Boys ran out of ticker into that strong wind. He's gotta sort this out. Surely we cant go on picking a bench player solely for injury cover??

Also incredibly annoying, I usually defend Wright who is an easy guy to hate, but Allwood out plays him comfortably and should have won that jersey. Badly missing another forward, having bench wingers/centres is an absolute joke.

If Tevaga can go the 80, we're wasting a spot with Luke too tbh, although he has picked it up just a notch lately. He's a waste of coin so far.

 

[jaseg]

What am I lying about? You and your cut and paste responses on things you know nothing about CRACKS me up.

Fusitua should be at the back. Lolohea only played good in the game against the Bulldogs cos he was on fire since he got to play where HE LIKES at 6, after he got in the zone, he could've played anywhere in the backs THAT day. However to get him consistently firing he needs to play 6 by doing that he frees up positions for people that actually play there like Fusitua. 1. Fusitua 2. Wright and 5. Manu I'd go with now as outside backs cos they're outside backs not halves.

Tui is just getting f**ked up out there with injuries. Fusitua is more suited as he showed last week but then we had to go with your idea of Tui at the back and he doesn't offer what Fusitua brings and THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

You were lying about that rubbish RE working for a betting agency - this is evidently a falsehood, as how you described what one would do when determining market prices doesn't actually happen. If you had said you worked for Prozone or someone, that might've actually made sense (in case you want to try that stuff elsewhere in future).

Really? Still with the Bulldogs game stuff? He was playing fullback when he did everything good. End of. I disagree with plenty here on various individual things without the carry on.

Amusingly enough, the landscape has changed a little since your last little fit. I actually don't mind seeing another game of Fusitua at fullback (and by extension Lolohea at 6, even though I think he'll be our long term fullback after RTS because we have another long term option who is simply a better half, and I'm still scarred by memories of Fusitua at fullback in lower grades). It's by no means my preferred option (that's still Hingano, who continues his ridiculous season), but possibly better than TL, whose bad ball playing cost us at least one try today - that terrible bloody late short ball to Hoffman when Tui was waiting out the back in a 3v3 situation on the left.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Spot on.

This is one of my real pet hates for years now, simply cannot understand how Leuluai is our first choice #6, over Robson, Townsend or Lolohea. The latter three are flawed but they are genuine halves. Leuluai might have looked like Thurston at ESL level, but he is NOT an NRL grade half. He's barely even an NRL grade player period.

He is, at best, a good honest toiler to be used as a utility if first line players go down. Right now he is number three in the ranks in both five-eighth and hooker, and forcing our best fullback trapped on the wing.

F*cking sick of it.

Going to cut Johnson some slack though, thought his energy and intent was right up there. He got destroyed by not playing according to the breeze and a couple of stupid desperate offloads, but he today he did enough good to cancel off his brain explosions. He's trying.

Give me this over his under-a-rock performances any day.

Thats what I'm saying Tui should play where he wants to play. We seen 15 minutes of it this year and the Warriors played their best game and that was sparked from plays where Tui was pivotal. However Tui went to fullback and now we're back to normal.

Leuluai the Super League star is STILL directing the team that way. Thing is this is the NRL and the NRL is slightly different as you would've seen in the World Club Series this year.

He almost never really plays what's in front of him. He calls a set play and sticks with the receiver and doesn't check if the decoy might be through.

Leuluais defence is probably the best of the halves barring the hookers Luke and Tevaga of course.

 

[vvvrulz]

What am I lying about? You and your cut and paste responses on things you know nothing about CRACKS me up.

Fusitua should be at the back. Lolohea only played good in the game against the Bulldogs cos he was on fire since he got to play where HE LIKES at 6, after he got in the zone, he could've played anywhere in the backs THAT day. However to get him consistently firing he needs to play 6 by doing that he frees up positions for people that actually play there like Fusitua. 1. Fusitua 2. Wright and 5. Manu I'd go with now as outside backs cos they're outside backs not halves.

Tui is just getting f**ked up out there with injuries. Fusitua is more suited as he showed last week but then we had to go with your idea of Tui at the back and he doesn't offer what Fusitua brings and THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

Oh hang on so you're saying playing Lolo at #6 got him "in the zone" and that's the only reason he carved up at fullback? :lol: Nice.

But being a dumbass aside you've managed to randomly stumble to your only (arguably) true statement, Fus is currently our #1 fullback.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

You were lying about that rubbish RE working for a betting agency - this is evidently a falsehood, as how you described what one would do when determining market prices doesn't actually happen. If you had said you worked for Prozone or someone, that might've actually made sense (in case you want to try that stuff elsewhere in future).

Oh what's next weeks lotto numbers? You think you know but you don't know nothing. Hey I know what you do for a job, just gotta answer questions and say stuff HAHA

Amusingly enough, the landscape has changed a little since your last little fit. I actually don't mind seeing another game of Fusitua at fullback (and by extension Lolohea at 6, even though I think he'll be our long term fullback after RTS because we have another long term option who is simply a better half, and I'm still scarred by memories of Fusitua at fullback in lower grades). It's by no means my preferred option (that's still Hingano, who continues his ridiculous season), but possibly better than TL, whose bad ball playing cost us at least one try today - that terrible bloody late short ball to Hoffman when Tui was waiting out the back in a 3v3 situation on the left.

That's what I've been saying regarding having a makeshift half taking up the positions guys like Fusitua would shine at and you'd just carry on about Tui being the fullback.

I can tell you know you can forget Hingano for this year and the next year. Just not ready from what we've seen in the NYC. That's why you don't hear anything of him. He's good but just not ready.

Next Warrior game, you come on here and we'll call it with Phill. I dare ya, then you can see Tuis game clearly as a fullback.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Oh hang on so you're saying playing Lolo at #6 got him "in the zone" and that's the only reason he carved up at fullback? :lol: Nice.

But being a dumbass aside you've managed to randomly stumble to your only (arguably) true statement, Fus is currently our #1 fullback.

No your momma is a dumb ass lol. She had you lol. You give it, you gotta expect it aye

Athletes get in a zone sometimes or you might know as form. You have to have played to know as obviously you haven't.

 

[Blair]

So Lane dropped off the bench? I was waiting for him to come on. He might've been just what we needed late in the game. A mobile forward, with fresh legs.

He was on his own in the dressing room before play and looked a bit miffed. Would he have been told that late that he wasn't playing?

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

So Lane dropped off the bench? I was wating for him to come on. He might've been just what we needed late in the game. A mobile forward, with fresh legs.

He was on his own in the dressing room before play and looked a bit miffed. Would he have been told that late that he wasn't playing?

Well he might've fancied his chances considering most benches are 3 forwards and 1 utility back or half but then Cappy decided to go with 2 forwards

 

[jaseg]

Oh what's next weeks lotto numbers? You think you know but you don't know nothing. Hey I know what you do for a job, just gotta answer questions and say stuff HAHA


That's what I've been saying regarding having a makeshift half taking up the positions guys like Fusitua would shine at and you'd just carry on about Tui being the fullback.

I can tell you know you can forget Hingano for this year and the next year. Just not ready from what we've seen in the NYC. That's why you don't hear anything of him. He's good but just not ready.

Next Warrior game, you come on here and we'll call it with Phill. I dare ya, then you can see Tuis game clearly as a fullback.

:lol: Because there's any correlation between understanding the basics (and really it is just the basics) of modern bookmaking and completely random lotteries? That you would even draw the line again shows where you're at.

Tui has pretty objectively played his best NRL at fullback - his time in the halves (a touch over 400 minutes) has yielded very little (1 try, 1 assist, 3 linebreaks). He does have some ball skills, however (as most if not all good modern fullbacks do), and could likely do a job at 6 (better than the 'senior' alternatives, anyway). Fusitua had a good enough game (though it's a small sample size... 1 game - and that against a horrible Dragons team) that I'd be open to seeing him there again and allowing Tui to replace TL, who isn't cutting it. Would rather play Fusitua (our best finisher), Lolohea & Hingano at the same time though. That's where I'm coming from... pretty simple standpoint tbh.

"Just not ready from what we've seen in the NYC"
:lol::crazy::crazy::lol:
That'll do me. You do realise he plays reserve grade, right? He's 20s eligible, but plays NSW cup (Intrust Super Premiership this year)... played the majority of last year and all of this year in reserves, not 20s. And should he maintain his form (since you clearly don't watch it at all), he'll be odds on (get it?) to be named player of the year. As a 19 year old.

Why on earth would I come on to a forum during my team's NRL game? I'm busy, you know, actually watching (I stopped short of typing 'enjoying') it. No disrespect to those here who like to do that... but that's not my preference at all. Not that it would accomplish anything anyway...

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

:lol: Because there's any correlation between understanding the basics (and really it is just the basics) of modern bookmaking and completely random lotteries? That you would even draw the line again shows where you're at.

You don't get it, it's just another way of proving you don't know everything. I can say I'm this, I'm that but you'll never really know for sure just like nobody KNOWS this weeks lotto numbers. You get it now?

Tui has pretty objectively played his best NRL at fullback - his time in the halves (a touch over 400 minutes) has yielded very little (1 try, 1 assist, 3 linebreaks). He does have some ball skills, however (as most if not all good modern fullbacks do), and could likely do a job at 6 (better than the 'senior' alternatives, anyway). Fusitua had a good enough game (though it's a small sample size... 1 game - and that against a horrible Dragons team) that I'd be open to seeing him there again and allowing Tui to replace TL, who isn't cutting it. Would rather play Fusitua (our best finisher), Lolohea & Hingano at the same time though. That's where I'm coming from... pretty simple standpoint tbh.

"Just not ready from what we've seen in the NYC"
:lol::crazy::crazy::lol:
That'll do me. You do realise he plays reserve grade, right? He's 20s eligible, but plays NSW cup (Intrust Super Premiership this year)... played the majority of last year and all of this year in reserves, not 20s. And should he maintain his form (since you clearly don't watch it at all), he'll be odds on (get it?) to be named player of the year. As a 19 year old.

I stand corrected but he's just under the radar and you're dreaming if you think he's going to play first grade this year. I have seen him play but he had a bad game but displayed some promise.

Why on earth would I come on to a forum during my team's NRL game? I'm busy, you know, actually watching (I stopped short of typing 'enjoying') it. No disrespect to those here who like to do that... but that's not my preference at all. Not that it would accomplish anything anyway...

You obviously don't type much or fast. Fair enough. Just an opportunity to put our debate to an end.

 

[vvvrulz]

You obviously don't type much or fast. Fair enough. Just an opportunity to put our debate to an end.

I keep forgetting to ignore you, cheers for the reminder through your quality posts.

I will add I find it interesting how you 'debate' resorting to cheap shots, rank momma jokes, and talking up your personal life incl the classic "only super athletes like me would know" card. Making up for a complete lack of actual insight or knowledge, hopefully you're only in here for a laugh otherwise I pity you and those around you.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

I keep forgetting to ignore you, cheers for the reminder through your quality posts.

I will add I find it interesting how you 'debate' resorting to cheap shots, rank jokes, and talking up your personal life incl the classic "only super athletes like me would know" card. Making up for a complete lack of actual insight or knowledge, hopefully you're only in here for a laugh otherwise I pity you and those around you.

Oh lol you angry calm down look if you call people names when they are civil with you, you got to expect them to stoop to the level you set which is quite low.

Check our previous traded posts where I was discussing something with you. I don't insult you in anyway but then look at your response. You called me dumbass?? Like where did that come from? I pity those that are around you if you call people dumbass when they're not messing with you.