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ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Manu any day.

Run metres are not everything for a winger, it's a bonus on top of being able to actually do a wingers job. Manu with his experience and try scoring ability wins easily.
Cool that I dont have to write anything. Agreed.
At some point teams are going to start kicking behind Maumalo and directly at him along the ground. I fear we'll see him exposed in this situation.
Already done. Roosters chipped behind him and because Maumalo doesnt have power steering, he turned around like the steering wheel when the car is off and chased and sin bin. He took the bombs that came his way well but its when we put up attacking bombs for him that hes not fast enough to get under it. One bomb was put up for him but it dropped for Hoffman whos good in the air as well.

Im a little annoyed regarding the penalty try yesterday. Round 1 Hoffman was held back when he was about to score a try, from that there was no..
A. Penalty try
B. Sin bin
or even C. Penalty
Now in the last 2 weeks, for the same thing, weve had B last week and A yesterday. All we got was an apology in round 1 from Tony Archer.

Michael Jordan believed that the Pistons had rules for him. He called them the Jordan rules. I think the reffs have the same for us the "Warrior rules".
 
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MKEB...

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Was interesting listening to cappy on talksport. said straight out the some of the criticism directed at spud Wright was a bit unfair. What he brings to the team is acknowledged by the team...and one ball was thrown behind him and and high, with a winger flying though, was more an execution or positional thing.

Eh?
 

JJ

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The penalty try was the correct call IMO there have been many incorrect ones, including against the Roosters

Interesting that McFadden is backing Wright, I am fine with that the problem is selection, like others he was dumped when going well band now picked for no reason whatsoever. His mistakes were costly but at the end of the day against a tired and lethargic team we weren't good enough
 

gordynz

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A coach is never going to come out and criticize one of his players. He just needs to explain why he benched Lolohea...
 

Blair

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Cheers Phil et al.

This thread always reads like a suspense novel when you read it from start to finish. It had a disappointing ending, perhaps predictable even. You were all right when saying that Cronulla won the crucial physical battles in extra-time.

The fact we didn't get a shot at field goal shows that.

What some of you might've missed is the huge advantage that the home team gets from the crowd. Everytime that annoying oke got on the pa, to lead the 'Sharkies chant', you could just feel it lift their team.

I hope the Warriors get similar vocal support at home.

It was great to spend time at Cronulla League Club before the game. Sure, it's a typical 'pokie palace', although not nearly as bad as some like the Eels' club, but there's still are bar called 'The Locker Room', with all the old photos and memories. Once again, I hope the Warriors have something similar.

In this bar a whole wall is dedicated to their 1994 team winning...reserve grade! The poor buggers are really desperate for something bigger and better! Although, we can talk, ay?

The game? Loved being there, I always switch ends at half-time so that the Warriors are running towards me. But this unsettled me yesterday as it was a large crowd and I couldn't sit down anywhere. I might just buy a grandstand ticket next time and stay put.

So, a pessimist, cynic, or long-suferring Warriors supporter always had us losing that one, and I wasn't confident even, or in fact mostly, in extra-time. I took a look at Maloney during the break and thought 'this moment's made for him'.

'Up, Up Cronulla!' So I've finally heard this song ring out across Shark Park. It's a great time to be a Sharks fan and I can't deny them that, the whole Shire is on board right now, yep, even the diehard surfies.

It was good to get home though, it gets too much when you're an away fan in enemy territory. Do we carry on like that after close wins, and golden runs?

I hope so!
 
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ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Was interesting listening to cappy on talksport. said straight out the some of the criticism directed at spud Wright was a bit unfair. What he brings to the team is acknowledged by the team...and one ball was thrown behind him and and high, with a winger flying though, was more an execution or positional thing.

Eh?
When he went to scoop the ball up and missed, he was outta position and Cronulla was IN position to take advantage of his absence. Its a tough one cos had he picked that up he wouldve been gone and he backed himself to scoop it up. He also had the option of just diving on it. I see what he was trying to do but he handled it like Mr Bean.

The DEFINITE try that he dropped was unprofessional. No both hands up, no windows just one hand up! He catches that I believe we win. I was a supporter of Wright but after that, I hope he never gets picked again.

The penalty try was the correct call IMO there have been many incorrect ones, including against the Roosters
Yep the penalty try was correct. What I was alluding to before was the irony on how it happened to us (Hoffman getting held back) and we didnt get a penalty, a penalty try or even a sin bin.
A coach is never going to come out and criticize one of his players. He just needs to explain why he benched Lolohea...
He benched Tui because both Leiluai and Johnson have niggles. Also Wright before he got axed was playing well at wing so his trust in Wright was warranted. Not saying agree with all of it but just stating WHY he did it.
 

ozbash

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The fact we didn't get a shot at field goal shows that.

We played GP one out.. I was waiting for the coaching 'masterstroke' and Tui carving up from nowhere...
 

Dav0c

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A coach is never going to come out and criticize one of his players. He just needs to explain why he benched Lolohea...

"McFadden is aware his decision has left people scratching their heads but says there remain facets of Lolohea's defensive game that require attention, while he had confidence the versatile Fusitu'a would provide more value at fullback.

"There's been things that I've been seeing in Tui's game in the last three weeks that we haven't liked and Tui's well aware of that," McFadden told Tony Veitch on Newstalk ZB.

"The other reason is David Fusitu'a, in his two showings at fullback previous to this game, has done a really good job and we just felt that we probably looked a touch better particularly defensively with David at fullback and Tui hasn't had a lot of practice on the wing.

"We know how good Tui is and it won't be long before he's back in the side that's for sure but it's a decision we felt we needed to make for the team and Tui.""
 

ozbash

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Warriors coach Andrew McFadden has defended his decision to start wing Jonathan Wright ahead of Tui Lolohea and says there are areas of the young rookie's game that need improvement.

McFadden make the shock change before kickoff in Saturday night's 19-18 golden point NRL loss to Cronulla at Southern Cross Group Stadium, with Lolohea demoted to the bench to see David Fusitu'a take over the fullback role, and Wright promoted from reserve grade to start on the right wing.

Despite scoring the Warriors second try, Wright had a forgettable outing in which he also fumbled a loose ball in the lead-up to Sharks wing Ricky Leutele's try before halftime, and dropped a pass to blow a certain four-pointer early in the second-half.

McFadden is aware his decision has left people scratching their heads but says there remain facets of Lolohea's defensive game that require attention, while he had confidence the versatile Fusitu'a would provide more value at fullback.

"There's been things that I've been seeing in Tui's game in the last three weeks that we haven't liked and Tui's well aware of that," McFadden told Tony Veitch on Newstalk ZB.

"The other reason is David Fusitu'a, in his two showings at fullback previous to this game, has done a really good job and we just felt that we probably looked a touch better particularly defensively with David at fullback and Tui hasn't had a lot of practice on the wing.

"We know how good Tui is and it won't be long before he's back in the side that's for sure but it's a decision we felt we needed to make for the team and Tui."

Lolohea has been one of the Warriors best this season, playing wing and five-eighth before taking over the No1 jersey to cover the absence of the injured Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

The 21-year-old is one of the most potent attackers in the NRL with a brilliant running and passing game but at times in his 39 first grade appearances has lacked urgency in defensive situations close the line.

Wright last appeared in the Warriors round 11 defeat to Canberra in New Plymouth after which the side enjoyed a three-match winning run with Manu Vatuvei, Fusitu'a and Ken Maumalo all preferred wing options ahead of the 29-year-old.

McFadden is aware that Wright is perceived as having limited attacking ability but felt some of the criticism directed towards him was off the mark.

The former Eels, Bulldogs and Sharks finisher is viewed as a stable contributor, with mistakes often overshadowing his role in the side.

Rather than blame Wright for bombing a try that would have reclaimed the lead for the Warriors, he believed centre Blake Ayshford had contributed to the mistake.

"It's a little unfair," he said. "I've heard a bit of the criticism around some of the errors he made, particularly the one where we really butchered a try, but to be fair to Jonathan, the ball was behind and high on him. And when you're running flat-stick trying to go for the corner, that's the last place you want the ball delivered.

"So I put that down to Blake Ayshford more than Jonathan there but he probably had an unhappy night.

"But he does provide a really solid performance for us generally and he's not the flashiest player but he does do a lot of good stuff for the team and the team does recognise that as well."

The loss saw the Warriors drop to currently occupy 11th spot on the NRL ladder, and now look ahead to next Saturday's home match against the Gold Coast.

Intrigue will surround the make-up of the Warriors outside backs when the team to face the Titans is announced on Tuesday, with Vatuvei a chance of returning from a hamstring strain that has kept him sidelined over the last two weeks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11663746
 

JJ

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Intrigue indeed, Tui to reserve grade?, that performance surely didn't rectify any 'issues'
 

vvvrulz

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The penalty try was the correct call IMO there have been many incorrect ones, including against the Roosters

This, right call but in the context of the decisions this season, abysmal call.

Interesting that McFadden is backing Wright, I am fine with that the problem is selection, like others he was dumped when going well band now picked for no reason whatsoever. His mistakes were costly but at the end of the day against a tired and lethargic team we weren't good enough

I'm not going to be popular for this, but I had no problem with the Wright selection. He's a safe bet (usually) when we don't have Manu out there. Fus is better at fullback than wing. Wright was shit this time, no question, but I can see the rationale behind it.

I can *even* get behind the Tevaga drop as Luke has stepped it up and can go the 80 minutes.
Gives us a bench spot, as good as Jazz has been.

What absolutely shits me is how Leuluai keeps getting the nod, and Lolohea got benched.
That is absolute madness.
 

jaseg

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Cappy's lost it. Lolohea plays fullback and Fusitua right wing and we win that match.

Defending is a reason? Fusitua was the right side A defender who over-committed and crossed over to create the hole for the Ennis try wasn't he? Great call there, coach. Even disregarding that Fus would've likely been the difference on the wing.

Just completely over his crappy calls each week. Tui should have played 80, he's been close to (if not) our best this year. You don't leave your best players out of the game for most of the match. You just don't. Not if you want to succeed.

Annoyed at the lack of consistency with the calls regarding the Mannering foul... either give penalty tries or sin bins. Don't do what you're seemingly doing currently - flipping a coin to decide which you'll give. But that didn't cost us that game - the Fifita play the ball and lack of 10m in the final 15 or so minutes of the match might have, but both to be expected.. refs simply don't pull things like that up in those sudden death situations.

I'm not going to be popular for this, but I had no problem with the Wright selection. He's a safe bet (usually) when we don't have Manu out there. Fus is better at fullback than wing. Wright was shit this time, no question, but I can see the rationale behind it.

I can *even* get behind the Tevaga drop as Luke has stepped it up and can go the 80 minutes.
Gives us a bench spot, as good as Jazz has been.

What absolutely shits me is how Leuluai keeps getting the nod, and Lolohea got benched.
That is absolute madness.

I wouldn't have minded Wright... if we were talking about filling the left wing slot, where he is outside a centre who doesn't pass the ball (instead scoring/running himself). Right wing I would pick Tui or Fus (with Tui at fullback) every time.

I'm with you on the Tevaga thing, as hard as it was to drop a guy playing that well.. Luke is a champion player and starting to show it.. and doesn't need a break. TL is just frustrating. He's a bloody hooker!!
 
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Benek

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Manu over Maumalo any day. Are there people honestly saying Maumalo is better?

For me, Manu and Fusitua would be our first choice wingers. Although I do like Fus at #1 as well.
 

Meth

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Wait...are people suggesting Manu < Maumalo? Or Manu < Wright

Because piss off
 

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