WA BEARS

[Dark Corner]

They both get big crowds, over 40k. Luckily it's a city of over 2mill though, so there's a big pool for 1 NRL club to appeal to

If Rugby Union in it's poor state can have a team in Perth then bloody hell the NRL should have a team pronto.

 

[Bukowski]

If Rugby Union in it's poor state can have a team in Perth then bloody hell the NRL should have a team pronto.

A few months ago John Quayle was asked if Perth was ready for a team. His reply was that they were ready 30 years ago.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

With 9 then probably soon 10 games and an actual regular Perth team it becomes far more likely they’ll at least try it though. Not saying it will be every Perth home game and it might flop but I’d be surprised if they didn’t trial it at least.

Tennis was just one example, T20 & ODI cricket, some AFL games go close to 11pm East Coast time. Not live but Channel 9 used to play the 2nd Friday night NRL game on delay at around 9:30pm Friday with 1million ads as I’m sure most here will remember.

I’m totally guessing here but I reckon there would be just as much of a market for a 9:30pm Saturday game from Perth as a 12pm Sunday game from NZ. I know I have more free time in the evenings than in the middle of the day typically, I’m sure plenty of others would be the same.

maybe they wills but i still thinks game 9 will be slotted 6pm sunday eastcoast and game 10 if it is kiwi will be 130pm saturday eastcoast that means thurs x1 fri x2 sat x4 sun x3. 130pm works for major consumer because its around lunch. chuck it on in the background as it leads into 330pm game then 530pm and 730pm after that. but would needs to be kiwi side i think it alternates between warriors and kiwi 2 but not to say they have a mortgage on it though. maybe this time slot does alternate with odd monday night and maybe eventually super late saturday. i just dont think its a wise choice. yes local market gets 730pm kick offs but i think it detracts from major markets too much.

 

[Pippen94]

Rebuffed Perth NRL bid made new $20m licence fee offer

The cashed-up Perth consortium that the NRL rejected to run a new franchise in 2027 had made a...

www.canberratimes.com.au

LOL

 

[wb2027]

As others have said, the Thursday evening and 6pm Friday games are no doubt the worst timeslots for the WA Bears. Sure, plenty of eyes on eastern states TVs, but very few in WA will be able to watch.

This is where the NRL won't care if anyone can't make it to HBF. If the broadcast will get ratings and ad revenue then they won't care if there are large chunks of empty seats in the stadium. That's been the NRL standard for a while now.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

This is where the NRL won't care if anyone can't make it to HBF. If the broadcast will get ratings and ad revenue then they won't care if there are large chunks of empty seats in the stadium. That's been the NRL standard for a while now.

this is why i thinks 730pm west aussie kick offs which is 930pm east kicks offs and 1030pm second half kick offs wont work. this sport is about eyeballs on tvs = ad and sponsor revenue = gambling promotions = values. i agree with a couple posters here that its second halfs of that time slots which will be heavily affected with drop offs in tv numbers. well thats my not so educated guess anyways based on facts that nrl have never pushed for a 930pm kick off start game. why trial it once a side is already in? why not trial is before hand to see if itll even work and i gets the whole spiel that ya need that local side to actually draw local eye balls but those local eye balls make such a small % of the overalls stats that it's not really worth it.

now if nsw and qld hads double their population then it woulds be serious chat but whiles 220k high end ave for nsw and 160k high end ave for qld based on 2022 stats are eyeball numbers i just see too much drop off from them that no chance in hell west aussie rise even comes close to the drop off so itll be poo either ways.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Rebuffed Perth NRL bid made new $20m licence fee offer

The cashed-up Perth consortium that the NRL rejected to run a new franchise in 2027 had made a...

www.canberratimes.com.au

LOL

i thinks theres so much more to this story that no one is letting on. maybe there was something rotten with cumins bid if not him directly maybes the investors. im sure perthwrongs will pull the pork hard to cumins cause though and bore us with some lies.

 

[Pippen94]

i thinks theres so much more to this story that no one is letting on. maybe there was something rotten with cumins bid if not him directly maybes the investors. im sure perthwrongs will pull the pork hard to cumins cause though and bore us with some lies.

They took issue with licence fee, but then offered $20 million?! Maybe @Perth Red can explain?!

 

[SirPies&Beers]

They took issue with licence fee, but then offered $20 million?! Maybe @Perth Red can explain?!

i thinks @Red&BlackBear might be better man to get answer from although cob isnt west aussie and probaly doesnt know cash man cumins or anything like that i assumes.

 

[John bird]

wrong thread.

 

[The_Wookie]

"We said to the NRL when we submitted our counter-bid that it was valid until December 20,” Cumins said.

"That has come and gone and we wrote to the NRL to say we were out of the race.

“The investors have looked at other opportunities. You don't have that sort of money and not have it working.

"We wrote to the NRL and said that we had done all this work, had an agreement with the North Sydney Bears, agreed on logos, club names and had registered and trademarked them.

"We said that was all available to them if they want to recompense us for the money that we have spent.

"The only advice we got back from the NRL was that they had decided to go down a completely different business model and ... were going to go with a model of an NRL-owned team supported by the government.”

AAP has spoken to other sources close to the state government who said Cumins' assessment was correct and that the NRL was forging ahead to initially own the new franchise itself with a monetary injection from the state government. The financials of that deal are still in flux.

Rebuffed Perth NRL bid made new $20m licence fee offer

The cashed-up Perth consortium that the NRL rejected to run a new franchise in 2027 had made a stunning revised offer that included a $20 million licence fee.

www.aapnews.com.au

 

[Wb1234]

Yeh sure they pulled out first

lol!

Nrl dodged a bullet

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Yeh sure they pulled out first

lol!

Nrl dodged a bullet

wrong thread.

nah right thread

 

[mongoose]

this is why i thinks 730pm west aussie kick offs which is 930pm east kicks offs and 1030pm second half kick offs wont work. this sport is about eyeballs on tvs = ad and sponsor revenue = gambling promotions = values. i agree with a couple posters here that its second halfs of that time slots which will be heavily affected with drop offs in tv numbers. well thats my not so educated guess anyways based on facts that nrl have never pushed for a 930pm kick off start game. why trial it once a side is already in? why not trial is before hand to see if itll even work and i gets the whole spiel that ya need that local side to actually draw local eye balls but those local eye balls make such a small % of the overalls stats that it's not really worth it.

now if nsw and qld hads double their population then it woulds be serious chat but whiles 220k high end ave for nsw and 160k high end ave for qld based on 2022 stats are eyeball numbers i just see too much drop off from them that no chance in hell west aussie rise even comes close to the drop off so itll be poo either ways.

don't really understand this cause its barely English but the 9th game will get eyeballs on TV no matter what the team is. Just need to make sure the Broadcasters pay a decent sum for it. The bonus of Perth is you grow your game in the 4th largest market in the country while TV pays for it. Because... like... why the f**k wouldn't you want to do that if you are a "national" body of a sport??

 

[SirPies&Beers]

don't really understand this cause its barely English but the 9th game will get eyeballs on TV no matter what the team is. Just need to make sure the Broadcasters pay a decent sum for it. The bonus of Perth is you grow your game in the 4th largest market in the country while TV pays for it. Because... like... why the f**k wouldn't you want to do that if you are a "national" body of a sport??

first thing to ascertain is that certain time slots get better viewership than others. thats a fact jack.

its simple maths really. before i start im only talking about 730pm west aussie kick off which is 930pm eastern time kick offs anyways.

anywho, even if theres a triple % increase of west aussie market and it goes to 40k or there abouts tv viewership numbers but then same time theres a 50k drop off in east coast tv viewership numbers half way through the game because its late then its still a 10k drop overalls.

this is before we take kiwi numbers and therefore what their broadcasters value that extra game/time slot into consideration because a 1030pm half time/second half on east coast is 1230pm half time/second half in nz. there will be guaranteed drops off then.

however the 4pm/6pm sunday games, 330pm/530pm saturday games, 8pm friday game will draw gangbusters for overall tv audience regardless as they are friendly timeslots for all 3 markets. west aussies, east siders and kiwi's. the 9th time slot will be 6pm sunday but wont necessarily be west aussie exclusive. nrl have been trialing this time slot for years.

its the 10th time slot thats undecided. could be 130pm saturday (330pm kiwi time), or monday night footy but i think 130pm saturday works better myself.

 

[Wb1234]

first thing to ascertain is that certain time slots get better viewership than others. thats a fact jack.

its simple maths really. before i start im only talking about 730pm west aussie kick off which is 930pm eastern time kick offs anyways.

anywho, even if theres a triple % increase of west aussie market and it goes to 40k or there abouts tv viewership numbers but then same time theres a 50k drop off in east coast tv viewership numbers half way through the game because its late then its still a 10k drop overalls.

this is before we take kiwi numbers and therefore what their broadcasters value that extra game/time slot into consideration because a 1030pm half time/second half on east coast is 1230pm half time/second half in nz. there will be guaranteed drops off then.

however the 4pm/6pm sunday games, 330pm/530pm saturday games, 8pm friday game will draw gangbusters for overall tv audience regardless as they are friendly timeslots for all 3 markets. west aussies, east siders and kiwi's. the 9th time slot will be 6pm sunday but wont necessarily be west aussie exclusive. nrl have been trialing this time slot for years.

its the 10th time slot thats undecided. could be 130pm saturday (330pm kiwi time), or monday night footy but i think 130pm saturday works better myself.

If it’s a new time slot Foxsports will be thrilled even if it averages less than prime time games

Both sat 930 pm est and Sunday 6/7 pm est would be new / newish time slots

The other option is Monday night football at 9 pm est but i think they should leave mnf as a carrot for future deals

They will be having two extra games a week that’s already a huge uplift in content

 

[Red&BlackBear]

They took issue with licence fee, but then offered $20 million?! Maybe @Perth Red can explain?!

Interesting article. It has a couple of false statements in it.

There’s more to this than just license fee. I revert back to the vague “NRL oversight” comments made way back. Wasn’t just ‘because’. Oversight grew into something more. Anyways moving on.

Peter Cumins/Cash Converters will still make a great minor sponsor. Sleeve/Shorts etc. That’s nothing to scoff at either. He shouldn’t be discarded from the game and his passion should be rewarded. However, he also shouldn’t be heading up any NRL club either. That just isn’t his go.

 

[Wb1234]

Interesting article. It has a couple of false statements in it.

There’s more to this than just license fee. I revert back to the vague “NRL oversight” comments made way back. Wasn’t just ‘because’. Oversight grew into something more. Anyways moving on.

Peter Cumins/Cash Converters will still make a great minor sponsor. Sleeve/Shorts etc. That’s nothing to scoff at either. He shouldn’t be discarded from the game and his passion should be rewarded. However, he also shouldn’t be heading up any NRL club either. That just isn’t his go.

He can be the teams (used) Rolex sponsor

 

[wb2027]

Interesting article. It has a couple of false statements in it.

There’s more to this than just license fee. I revert back to the vague “NRL oversight” comments made way back. Wasn’t just ‘because’. Oversight grew into something more. Anyways moving on.

Peter Cumins/Cash Converters will still make a great minor sponsor. Sleeve/Shorts etc. That’s nothing to scoff at either. He shouldn’t be discarded from the game and his passion should be rewarded. However, he also shouldn’t be heading up any NRL club either. That just isn’t his go.

Maybe it's the fact that the BBX sponsorship amounted to nothing, but I'd really rather there be no sponsors that have even the slightest hint of dodgy valuation like a pawn shop.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Interesting article. It has a couple of false statements in it.

There’s more to this than just license fee. I revert back to the vague “NRL oversight” comments made way back. Wasn’t just ‘because’. Oversight grew into something more. Anyways moving on.

Peter Cumins/Cash Converters will still make a great minor sponsor. Sleeve/Shorts etc. That’s nothing to scoff at either. He shouldn’t be discarded from the game and his passion should be rewarded. However, he also shouldn’t be heading up any NRL club either. That just isn’t his go.

Maybe it's the fact that the BBX sponsorship amounted to nothing, but I'd really rather there be no sponsors that have even the slightest hint of dodgy valuation like a pawn shop.

what this about? is there secret info you both are holding out on us common folk paupers?

the timing is interesting regarding west aussie bears news regardless of being older suddenly dropping this week. almost feels like its slowly building back up. didnt someone predict there'd be news coming out last week and this week?