WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

Hahhaa

Hosting bears home games when the local afl teams have games is stupid

Clashes should be avoided where possible so (gasp) some of afl fans start watching the bears regularly

In literally arguing we should be trying to grow the local rugby league market by not going head to head with the dominant sport if we don’t need too

And I wasn’t the one saying the team would be ok relying upon east coast viewers it was two Perth bears fans

 

[Vlad59]

Hahhaa

Hosting bears home games when the local afl teams have games is stupid

Clashes should be avoided where possible so (gasp) some of afl fans start watching the bears regularly

In literally arguing we should be trying to grow the local rugby league market by not going head to head with the dominant sport if we don’t need too

And I wasn’t the one saying the team would be ok relying upon east coast viewers it was two Perth bears fans

Oh you mean the bits where you’ve changed positions at least a dozen times because you are always wrong or are just making stuff up? You know the bits we keep calling you out on?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I wouldn't have a clue when fumbleball games are on. Yet the bestest rugby league fan eva! Seems to.

 

[Centy Coast]

Don't government's announce huge pork barrelling projects in the hundreds of millions as part of their campaigns to win votes? So government being conservative and not commenting on big projects is not quite correct. I think it has more to do with getting an NRL team is not a huge vote winner and Cook would rather spend his time in shoring up his votes to get re-elected. I would think health, education, etc are more important issues for the government than having public servants and other officials working on an MOU for a rugby league team during an election campaign. After all, it appears WA will get a team given all the noise around the Bears, so no need to waste energy on ironing out the details when you have an election to win. It can be done after you win.

In saying the above, nothing surprises me and there might be a team announcement before the election. Who knows.

Again that’s exactly what I said pages ago, announcing big $$$ in WA a renowned AFL stronghold would not go down well with voters, best to wait until after the election. Why put shade over a virtually guaranteed election win.

 

[Nuke]

WA is very different to SA which is very much dominated by AFL alone. WA has a much broader appreciation of other sports. SA is basically a dead duck at this time.

Margaret River is in WA. And both you and Dark Corner are both correct. WA, while very much parochial about their aussie rules, are more open to other sports than other aussie rules states. An NRL team here, if WA owned and run, can be a success. It won't de-throne aussie rules as the #1 winter sport in WA, but it doesn't have to.

Get the team, make sure it's well-run, gain that big following, and THEN in the distant future can we go about taking that #1 crown..!

 

[Centy Coast]

So we're agreed then. No team for WA. So f**k off back to hibernation for the bears fans.

Because this is what this dopey discussion is about from the bears brigade, they want east coast friendly time slots so they can watch in the comfort of their homes while reminiscing about the time they almost made a grand final for the first time in 70 years.

Any time slot suits real fans, back to the Raiders page with you.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Any time slot suits real fans, back to the Raiders page with you.

You are aware anyone can post here? It's not one of your lovefest Facebook groups.

 

[Bukowski]

Hahhaa

Hosting bears home games when the local afl teams have games is stupid

You literally suggested a time slot that goes up against Eagles and dockers. Today aswell. You usually contradict yourself after a day or so, within a couple of hours is a bit worrying for you.

 

[Bukowski]

Any time slot suits real fans, back to the Raiders page with you.

The only timeslot that is bad is the early Friday game, 4pm in Perth. We sold our Friday night 6pm game last year, up against WBs sport too

 

[Centy Coast]

You are aware anyone can post here? It's not one of your lovefest Facebook groups.

Yes but as Pies points out you just post negative shit, stir the pot and continue.
After pages and pages of irrelevant rubbish it just gets tired, I come and go on here, same with Facebook, anyways whatever rocks your boat. Each to our own I guess.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Yes but as Pies points out you just post negative shit, stir the pot and continue.
After pages and pages of irrelevant rubbish it just gets tired, I come and go on here, same with Facebook, anyways whatever rocks your boat. Each to our own I guess.

Who is pies?
There's a difference between negative and realistic/reading what you don't want to read because it's true.

 

[Perth Red]

. I think it has more to do with getting an NRL team is not a huge vote winner and Cook would rather spend his time in shoring up his votes to get re-elected. I would think health, education, etc are more important issues for the government than having public servants and other officials working on an MOU for a rugby league team during an election campaign. After all, it appears WA will get a team given all the noise around the Bears, so no need to waste energy on ironing out the details when you have an election to win. It can be done after you win.

In saying the above, nothing surprises me and there might be a team announcement before the election. Who knows.

Considering one of his first announcements was a $225mill racetrack in the city that no one wants I’m not sure that rings true tbh.

 

[Perth Red]

I would’ve thought growing the game in wa would be a priority for Perth rugby league fans

Turns out they just want a game on at times that suit their small fanbase and are ok relying upon tv viewers in eastern states to carry the team

If they go head to head with the eagles and dockers then their current tv ratings will be the limit

Yeh it’s insane to want games on at times RL fans can attend and fill the stadium. I mean who would want sell out crowds and a financially healthy club? Insanity I tell you!

 

[Wb1234]

Yeh it’s insane to want games on at times RL fans can attend and fill the stadium. I mean who would want sell out crowds and a financially healthy club? Insanity I tell you!

Yeh Saturday 6 or 7 pm is just an awful time to go watch league

Luckily the nrl are running the club and they won’t be scheduling games against the dockers if eagles where possible

This is why rejecting Cummins was a sensible move

 

[Perth Red]

The only timeslot that is bad is the early Friday game, 4pm in Perth. We sold our Friday night 6pm game last year, up against WBs sport too

Not really. Yes the dolphins game sold out but battling that traffic and leaving work early to make it for KO will get tired pretty quick. Thursday 6pm, Friday 6pm, Saturday afternoon wont work well for us imo. Sunday 4pm remains the best spot for us. Despite our resident swans fan being concerned it clashes with his afl lol

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh Saturday 6 or 7 pm is just an awful time to go watch league

Luckily the nrl are running the club and they won’t be scheduling games against the dockers if eagles where possible

This is why rejecting Cummins was a sensible move

It’s like I’d didnt say Saturday night or Sunday 4pm are the only slots that work well for perth lol

 

[Iamback]

The time zones suggested here locals can watch.

It’s absolutely no different to Warriors or Cowboys or even Titans for that matter that are generally allocated 6 out of the 8 current specific time slots for majority of their games. Anyone actually think a 6pm Friday or 2pm Sunday kick off on the Goldie caters to the local market? Hell no, but it does cater to the overall tv audience. That’s what’s key, the overall market.

As someone already said here - having an increase in a smaller market that’ll simultaneously cause a decrease in a larger market isn’t a smart business decision. If a 7:30pm WA Local time kick off causes WA to increase their TV metro audience viewership numbers by let’s say 50-150% while at the same time that 9:30pm kick off in NSW/QLD decreases their TV viewership numbers by even 15-20% then it’s still a loss considering how much % NSW/QLD market make up.

There’s a wider picture to look at beyond small markets, regardless of their potential growth. 6 out of 9 and potentially 10 time slots is good. Aim is to grow the game on top of the metrics it’s already producing and not stunt a larger area due to trying to bolster a smaller area. It needs to be synergetic. My take anyways.

On that note Happy Australia Day all!

Warriors don't play the 7.30 timeslot over here for various reasons, No reason the same can't be done for Perth.

I doubt they get the Thurs night or 8pm Fri timeslot either.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Yeh it’s insane to want games on at times RL fans can attend and fill the stadium. I mean who would want sell out crowds and a financially healthy club? Insanity I tell you!

Majority of the games money comes from tv revenue. Which in turn, props the clubs up. I don’t see what the issue with having 6 good time slots out of a possible 9 and eventually 10 is.

The specific time slots I think are concerning in their overall pull is clearly the 7:30pm WA kick off’s. The second half of that game wouldn’t start until close to 10:30pm in the EC. Meaning viewership numbers where majority of the eye balls are will drop and that drop will be bigger than whatever the increased localised numbers to WA is.

Therefore the overall numbers will be low, so if you’re a major corporate partner or a game day broadcaster sponsor - why would you pay a premium for the 9th game if a portion of that will be televised in terrible time slots where majority of the population is? Makes no commercial sense.

It needs to be at a viable time where 1) growth can happen in the localised market it’s targeting whilst 2) not losing % of viewership in the established market. Thats the challenge. It’s not a hard concept to grasp.

Yes, there might be a couple thousand fans who might not make it to the games but as I’ve alluded Cowboys and Titans fans share similar hurdles and Warriors also have time slots they rarely play in due to the same reasons.

Warriors don't play the 7.30 timeslot over here for various reasons, No reason the same can't be done for Perth.

I doubt they get the Thurs night or 8pm Fri timeslot either.

Quite literally what I’m trying to explain. 7:30pm and 8pm WA kick off’s won’t work or should I word it more like won’t reach the commercial pull when you factor everything in.

 

[Iamback]

Quite literally what I’m trying to explain. 7:30pm and 8pm WA kick off’s won’t work when you factor everything in.

Yeah really isn't that hard to see that, You get better footy in the day anyway and mainly Sat games increases the tourism to come in to the WA.

Hopefully offsets the lack of FTA exposure the side will get

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Surely the nostalgia of the bears will have east coast viewers flocking to the screen no matter the time?

Isn't that why they're resurrecting them? Because of all those fans who will be supporting them?